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Wooty 04-11-2009 04:01 PM

Skate Question
 
How do you know when your skates are worn out and it is time to replace them? I do mean by feel. Obviously you can see skates that are broken and are physically damaged.

I know as a runner, when the road starts getting harder, I am loosing cushioning and need new running shoes. How do you tell with ice hockey skates?

cptjeff 04-11-2009 04:15 PM

When they start getting soft is the big thing people replace them for, the boot will break down and it won't be as stiff, and you won't get as much energy transfer out of it.

You could also wear out the outsole, happens on some skates. It starts sagging and softening like the boot.

You can also get padding breaking down, and that can affect the feel of the boot and the support it gives to your ankle.

I should also mention that composite skates help with the problems of outsoles and boots softening. You will have issues with the foam and the skate breaking over time still though.

NigelSPNKr 04-11-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cptjeff (Post 18997186)
When they start getting soft is the big thing people replace them for, the boot will break down and it won't be as stiff, and you won't get as much energy transfer out of it.

You could also wear out the outsole, happens on some skates. It starts sagging and softening like the boot.

You can also get padding breaking down, and that can affect the feel of the boot and the support it gives to your ankle.

I should also mention that composite skates help with the problems of outsoles and boots softening. You will have issues with the foam and the skate breaking over time still though.


^^ pretty much summed it up. Good post ^^

Wooty 04-11-2009 05:23 PM

Thanks for the reply(ies)

I have lost about 70 pounds of weight and have really struggled getting my stride, balance and power back. It is hard to tell when your physical abilities have diminished and when your equipment is letting you down.

My backward skating is atrocious now and my speed is much lower then it used t be.

ClicheGuevara 04-12-2009 12:37 AM

IMO, it's 90% in the heel. If your heel no longer locks into place the skate is done.

stick9 04-13-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pkd88 (Post 18999012)
Thanks for the reply(ies)

I have lost about 70 pounds of weight and have really struggled getting my stride, balance and power back. It is hard to tell when your physical abilities have diminished and when your equipment is letting you down.

My backward skating is atrocious now and my speed is much lower then it used t be.

It doesn't sound like your skates are what's messing things up. You lost a hefty amount of weight. It's no doubt changed your balance and flexibility. That's going to effect your stride, which in turn effect all aspects of your skating.

In time you will adjust to your new weight. So give it a little bit before heading the shop for new skates.

EmptyNetter 04-13-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stick9 (Post 19030696)
It doesn't sound like your skates are what's messing things up. You lost a hefty amount of weight. It's no doubt changed your balance and flexibility. That's going to effect your stride, which in turn effect all aspects of your skating.

In time you will adjust to your new weight. So give it a little bit before heading the shop for new skates.

This. Unless you're dying to buy new skates anyway see if there's another reason for your dip in performance. I wouldn't expect a sudden loss of quickness and balance if your skates are on their way out -- it takes a long time for them to wear down so the decline would be more gradual and less noticeable.

Congratulations for dropping 70lbs, that's quite an achievement. I find it odd that you lost all that weight and feel slower, though -- you should be tearing around the ice without the extra weight to slow you down. I think you may have lost some muscle mass in the process. If that's the case please be careful and pace yourself -- your cardio and your endurance may not be the same as before. If your stride isn't as explosive as before you may need to build back up to that. Only thing skate related I can think of is you might experiment with a deeper hollow. If you're lighter your blade might not "dig" into the ice as deeply so you'd have less traction and it would compromise your pushoff. Here I'm just speculating because I've never been skinny. ;)

stick9 04-13-2009 11:25 AM

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Only thing skate related I can think of is you might experiment with a deeper hollow. If you're lighter your blade might not "dig" into the ice as deeply so you'd have less traction and it would compromise your pushoff.
Good call.

Wooty 04-13-2009 01:12 PM

Good points.

I am skating on very old vapor 8's, it is time for an update anyway. I do have a harder time getting comfortable in my existing skates, it seems the lacing and ankle lock is constantly changing on me.

I do feel weaker in my skating but I am also a year older and have been doing medium distance running. My fast muscles seem to have left me.


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