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GAGLine 05-04-2009 07:46 PM

Rangers Salary Cap Situation: 2009-10
 
The Salary Cap for next season will be 56.8 million:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/s...e=NHLHeadlines

Useful Links:

Cap Geek: www.capgeek.com
CAP FAQ: http://www.nhlscap.com/faq.htm
Calculating Buyouts: http://www.nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm#buyouts
CBA: http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf
Rangers Contracts: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYR
Rangers Contracts 2: http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.p...YR&season=0910

NHL Roster
PlayerCap Hit
Gaborik$7,500,000
Drury$7,050,000
Kotalik$3,000,000
Callahan$2,300,000
Higgins$2,250,000
Avery$1,937,500
Dubinsky$1,850,000
Brashear$1,400,000
Prospal$1,150,000
Voros$1,000,000
TBD 
TBD 
TBD 
TBD 
TBD 
Total$29,437,500
 
Redden$6,500,000
Rozsival$5,000,000
Girardi$1,550,000
Staal$826,667
TBD 
TBD 
TBD 
Total$13,876,667
 
Lundqvist$6,875,000
Valiquette$725,000
Total$7,600,000
 
Grand Total$50,914,167
Salary Cap$56,800,000
Free Space$5,885,833

UFAs and RFAs (Players in red are locks to be resigned IMO)
PlayerStatus2008 Salary2008 Cap HitQualified?
AntropovSigned ATL$2,150,000$2,050,000 
BettsUFA$615,000$615,000 
OrrSigned TOR$550,000$537,500 
JanikSigned DET$500,000$500,000 
ZherdevUFA**$3,250,000$2,500,000Yes*
KorpikoskiTraded PHO$984,200$1,017,533Yes
SjostromSigned CGY$840,000$840,000No
MorrisSigned BOS$3,950,000$3,916,667 
MaraSigned MTL$1,950,000$1,950,000 

* Indicates player has elected Salary Arbitration
** Zherdev was awarded $3,900,000 by the arbitrator. The Rangers have declined and Zherdev is now a UFA

Notable Minor Leaguers
PlayerCap HitQualified?Bonus*
Gilroy$1,750,000 $125,000
Del Zotto$1,087,500 $212,500
Rissmiller$1,000,000  
Crowder$975,000 $100,000
Grachev$933,333 $262,500
Heikkinen$875,000  
Ambühl$875,000 $237,500
Sanguinetti$855,000  
Dupont$850,000 $165,000
Valentenko$850,000 $265,000
Sauer$846,667 $165,000
Kundratek$845,833 $262,500
Williams$825,000 $265,000
Anisimov$821,667  
Lisin$790,000  
Hillier$750,000 $175,000
Arnason$700,000  
Weise$700,000 $130,000
Johnson$660,000  
Zaborsky$653,333 $40,000
Zaba$574,500  
Potter$550,000Yes 
Wiikman$542,500  
Dowzak$533,333  
Boyle$525,000  
Chappell$516,667  
Owens$515,000  
Soryal$508,333  
Didiomete$508,333  
Byers$500,000Yes 
Parenteau$500,000  
Locke$500,000  
McDonaghUnsigned  
DenisovUFANo 
BellUFA  
MooreSigned NYINo 
FaheyTraded Avs  

* Cap hits include bonuses

Plato 05-04-2009 07:54 PM

God, Tyutin would have been so amazing at 2.8.

NYR Viper 05-04-2009 07:59 PM

I kind of hope Sather can find a taker for Zherdev and bring in some size and skill.

nyr2k2 05-04-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 19418898)
I kind of hope Sather can find a taker for Zherdev and bring in some size and skill.

I'm really hoping someone signs him to an offer sheet.

Slick Rick 61 05-05-2009 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 19418946)
I'm really hoping someone signs him to an offer sheet.

Same here, but with his salary and the compensation required, I don't see a team giving up at minimum a 1st and 3rd to sign him. I was thinking about it, and being that his value is probably an all-time low, IMO he's probably returning. I don't see the Rangers cashing the investment in for his current trade value. His value is going to be cheaper than a similar player, in terms of point production, who is a UFA. It's probably in the Rangers' best interest to retain him.

DutchShamrock 05-05-2009 01:27 PM

What are the qualifications of a group VI UFA? Basically, I'd like to keep Paranteau and give him a shot on the big club. His style and game would fit in Tortorella's system.

GAGLine 05-05-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchShamrock (Post 19427969)
What are the qualifications of a group VI UFA? Basically, I'd like to keep Paranteau and give him a shot on the big club. His style and game would fit in Tortorella's system.

Quote:

Group 6 Free Agents.

(i) Means any Player who is age 25 or older who has completed three (3) or more professional seasons, whose SPC has expired and: (i) in the case of a Player other than a goaltender, has played less than 80 NHL Games...

(ii) Any Group 6 Player shall, at the expiration of his SPC, become an Unrestricted Free Agent and shall be completely free to negotiate and sign an SPC with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign an SPC with such Player, without penalty or restriction, or being subject to any Right of First Refusal, Draft Choice Compensation or any other compensation or equalization obligation of any kind.
Parenteau is 25, has more than 3 professional seasons in the AHL and has played less than 80 NHL games, so he is a group 6 UFA. He can sign with any team he wants.

Odds are that won't be with the Rangers. Most likely he'll look for a team willing to give him a shot in the NHL and, barring that, will play in Europe.

RangerBoy 05-05-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Because of the economic recession, it's quite possible the NHL salary cap could drop from more than $56 million to around $52 million by the summer of 2010.

In a recent meeting with the Associated Press Sports Editors, NHL commisioner Gary Bettman called that speculation because nobody knows for sure what to expect in terms of ticket sales and attendance next season. But Bettman admitted, "That is certainly a possibility. From our standpoint, we can all take comfort in the fact that our system is self-correcting. As revenues go up, the players share in it. If revenues go down, because we have a hard cap and escrow refund, we can't overpay based on the percentage we pay the players. It goes from 54 percent to 57 percent, depending on where the revenues are, but if revenues decline, then, player costs decline in direct proportion to that. So, there is a self-correcting element.

"That goes to a more profound question, if you're running a team, in terms of: 'What contractual commitments have I made, and how much cap space will I have.' That's an operational issue in terms of how teams plan. I have always said that, if I were operating a team, I would opt for shorter-term contracts to have flexibility. Some of the long-term contracts will turn out to be great; some may not. Time will tell. But the more of those contracts you have, the less flexibility you may have as the cap comes down. That's why I think it might be a concern to some general managers."

Quote:

Obviously, the Islanders have concerns about the remaining 12 years of injured goaltender Rick DiPietro's contract because of uncertainty about the health issues that limited him to five games last season. But DiPietro's annual salary of $4.5 million still leaves them plenty of flexibility. Other teams are locked in at higher prices for star players and might have to shed salary over this summer and next summer to position themselves to get under the cap.

That should provide Snow with an opportunity to pluck a quality player or two down the road in trade or by a free-agent signing

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/ho...ap_is_key.html

$52 million in 10-11 wouldn't be that big of a hardship

Are the Islanders one of the three teams on Gomez's NTC?:)

RangerBoy 05-05-2009 07:03 PM

Zherdev will either accept his 1 year QO of $3.25 million or sign a 1 year at a slightly higher number which will make Zherdev a group III UFA next summer at the age of 25 with 7 years pro experience.

KRM 05-05-2009 07:56 PM

This one could be expensive but how about trying to land Samuel Pċhlsson? He said in an interview a year or two ago that he'd love to play in New York before heading home to Sweden. I love Betts, but if he's going to be asking for money I rather pay a little more and get God.

Vitto79 05-05-2009 08:38 PM

I want Zherdev on the team........I know he struggled at the end of the year but give the guy a chance. this team has no offensive talent and he is one of them

I really think it's going to break down to resigning all RFA's , going with some youth in Hartford and resigning Antropov

The Doozy is finding room for Gaborik

Vitto79 05-05-2009 08:40 PM

When do RFA's usually sign or have to sign by?...........how far into Free Agency?

This is one of the first years where I don't expect much via FA......If they sign Gaborik on the first day I will be happy

Gardner McKay 05-05-2009 11:16 PM

I posted this proposal in another thread. But its relevant here considering that would accomplish two things for the Rangers. Ridding themselves of one of their bad contracts, i.e. helping the cap situ and, landing them a top 5 pick.


Gomez, Sanguenetti, Korpikoski rights to Zherdev, Rangers first in 09 for Thrashers first in 09 and Todd White.

White wont reproduce his season last year but hes not a bad player and is only at 2.5 per year and I believe is a UFA after this year.

Its a win win. Thrashers get a top line center for Kovalchuk, two prospects and rights to a player would flourish with Kovalchuck.

Rangers get rid of some salary, and a top draft pick.

vipernsx 05-05-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 19418898)
I kind of hope Sather can find a taker for Zherdev and bring in some size and skill.

I'd like to see him go to LA with a chance to move up in the draft. Schenn, Cowen and Kadri would fit the bill for me. Cowen and Staal on the blueline would be down right frightening and could be the two towers of power for many years.

Heck I'd love to flip him to LA for Teubert and let them pick Cowen.

But size and skill are two things Sather could bring in if he makes room for some young Russian forwards by moving current roster guys off too.

You don't get a Getzlaf or a Staal by trading for them once they're established as big skilled players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Dubinsky (Post 19437520)
I posted this proposal in another thread. But its relevant here considering that would accomplish two things for the Rangers. Ridding themselves of one of their bad contracts, i.e. helping the cap situ and, landing them a top 5 pick.


Gomez, Sanguenetti, Korpikoski rights to Zherdev, Rangers first in 09 for Thrashers first in 09 and Todd White.

White wont reproduce his season last year but hes not a bad player and is only at 2.5 per year and I believe is a UFA after this year.

Its a win win. Thrashers get a top line center for Kovalchuk, two prospects and rights to a player would flourish with Kovalchuck.

Rangers get rid of some salary, and a top draft pick.

Until Atlanta's ownership woes get sorted out, you can bank on them sticking with young and cheap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 19418946)
I'm really hoping someone signs him to an offer sheet.

I think 4 firsts is overly hopeful, A 1st, 2nd, and 3rd is possible, and two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd would be ideal.

I don't think the KHL offers any compensation though.:sarcasm:

Vitto79 05-06-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyviper87 (Post 19418898)
I kind of hope Sather can find a taker for Zherdev and bring in some size and skill.

he is Skill.........he is not going to be moved. Give him a yr to find himself under Torts

DutchShamrock 05-06-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitto79 (Post 19434458)
The Doozy is finding room for Gaborik

There is no way we should be clearing space for Gaborik. He played 16 games, if he wants a 1 year deal to prove himself, he can have Naslunds $4m. This guys seems to want it all... the right teammates, the right city, the right money. He doesn't seem to want to play a full season ever. It'll be like Bure all over again, which was fine at the time because there was no cap.

FromTheSide 05-06-2009 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchShamrock (Post 19440829)
There is no way we should be clearing space for Gaborik. He played 16 games, if he wants a 1 year deal to prove himself, he can have Naslunds $4m. This guys seems to want it all... the right teammates, the right city, the right money. He doesn't seem to want to play a full season ever. It'll be like Bure all over again, which was fine at the time because there was no cap.

Except bure wasin't made of glass :naughty:

RangerBoy 05-06-2009 07:24 AM

The QO's to the Rangers minor league players.These are almost always 2 way deals.

Vladimir Denisov-$879,375
Dane Byers-$660,000
Greg Moore-$635,250
Corey Poter-$588,500
Matt Zaba-$574,750

Joe Barnes will not be given a QO making him an UFA.

RangerBoy 05-06-2009 07:35 AM

The Rangers have 29 NHL contracts

1-Gomez
2-Drury
3-Avery
4-Voros
5-Rissmiller
6-Anisimov
7-Grachev(if Grachev spends 09-10 in Brampton.His contract doesn't count against the 50 contract limit)
8-Dupont
9-Pyatt
10-Hillier
11-Weise
12-Zaborsky
13-Soryal
14-Didiomete
15-Crowder
16-Owens
17-Redden
18-Roszival
19-Staal
20-Girardi
21-Sanguinetti
22-Sauer
23-Kundratek
24-Dowzak
25-Gilroy
26-Busto(his name says it all.One more year for this guy:help:)
27-Fahey
28-Lundqvist
29-Wiikman

Did not count Valiquette because the Rangers have not announced his extension for $725,000.

The Rangers still have Ivan Baranka's rights.Jarkko Immonen becomes a group III UFA this summer(27 years old).

cjdv16 05-06-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 19432252)
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/ho...ap_is_key.html

$52 million in 10-11 wouldn't be that big of a hardship

Are the Islanders one of the three teams on Gomez's NTC?:)

I certainly hope so.

Forechecker 05-06-2009 09:15 AM

We also free up $750k in dead cap space this year, correct?

cjdv16 05-06-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Dubinsky (Post 19437520)
I posted this proposal in another thread. But its relevant here considering that would accomplish two things for the Rangers. Ridding themselves of one of their bad contracts, i.e. helping the cap situ and, landing them a top 5 pick.


Gomez, Sanguenetti, Korpikoski rights to Zherdev, Rangers first in 09 for Thrashers first in 09 and Todd White.

White wont reproduce his season last year but hes not a bad player and is only at 2.5 per year and I believe is a UFA after this year.

Its a win win. Thrashers get a top line center for Kovalchuk, two prospects and rights to a player would flourish with Kovalchuck.

Rangers get rid of some salary, and a top draft pick.

Unlike some proposals I've recently seen from "Ranger Nation", I think this is a very good one. However, I think Atlanta knows they've got a bargain in White as IMHO, he was the second best UFA contract last year to only the Isles and Mark Streit.

I doubt they'll actively seek to move him when they're not in the business of spending money. You've also got to look at the Gomez vs. White and determine if you can enough to take on all that salary. I think they're production is on the same level and it's not worth the higher salary only for a "name".

Lastly, Atlanta doesn't appear to be in win-now mode and thus, moving a top 10 pick in a very strong draft would definitely sting and be counter to them building.

The one aspect that blows rational thinking out of the water is their desire to appease Kovalchuk who's quickly approaching UFA status. If bringing in Gomez works to satisfy Kovalchuk, then a deal like this makes better sense (although not to me).

Hockey2000nyr 05-06-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Dubinsky (Post 19437520)
I posted this proposal in another thread. But its relevant here considering that would accomplish two things for the Rangers. Ridding themselves of one of their bad contracts, i.e. helping the cap situ and, landing them a top 5 pick.


Gomez, Sanguenetti, Korpikoski rights to Zherdev, Rangers first in 09 for Thrashers first in 09 and Todd White.

White wont reproduce his season last year but hes not a bad player and is only at 2.5 per year and I believe is a UFA after this year.

Its a win win. Thrashers get a top line center for Kovalchuk, two prospects and rights to a player would flourish with Kovalchuck.

Rangers get rid of some salary, and a top draft pick.

i wouldnt touch that trade with a 10foot pole. three of those players are IN THE NHL RIGHT NOW, why trade for a pick that you never know....could turn out to be say...Pavel Brendl? that trade is going to haunt us and its always in the back of my mind when people make such bazaar proposals. your crazy to do that trade, idc what that pick can become, id rather not morgage the WHOLE future for just one pick who might not develop to be what we drafted him for.

no thanks to that....seriously people have to realize that teams that high up arent going to do a trade like that unless they are getting boatloads of picks back.

Gardner McKay 05-06-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey2000nyr (Post 19442868)
i wouldnt touch that trade with a 10foot pole. three of those players are IN THE NHL RIGHT NOW, why trade for a pick that you never know....could turn out to be say...Pavel Brendl? that trade is going to haunt us and its always in the back of my mind when people make such bazaar proposals. your crazy to do that trade, idc what that pick can become, id rather not morgage the WHOLE future for just one pick who might not develop to be what we drafted him for.

no thanks to that....seriously people have to realize that teams that high up arent going to do a trade like that unless they are getting boatloads of picks back.


Your very very wrong. This is not a baazar proposal in facts its a very realistic one for a few reasons that your naive little mind fails to realize. (thats for making fun of my proposal)

1. Frees up cap space. 7.3 gone for Gomez, Korpedo's 1 mil, Zherdevs QO would have been around 3ish so thats 11 million.

We bring back a fully capable roster player in Todd white, and get a top 5 pick to adress our needs. So overall we free up 8.5 million in cap space with Whites 2.5 cap hit.

If you pass up on that deal when you have the chance to clear that capspace and bring back a top 5 pick, your a tool.

No team is going to give boatloads of picks any more because in the NEW NHL you simply can't do that. You need to have build a winning team with high profile players, your role players, and then a few players on ELC's. You can't draft players without picks.

This would accomplish a ton of things for the Thrashers, a #1 center and winger and still have a first round pick.

Rangers get a top 5 pick and who knows maybe they could even move up another spot or two to 3rd or 2nd overall and get a player like Evander Kane or Hedman. It would be alot different cost wise moving from 4th to 2nd versus 19th to 2nd.

That would get us out of CAP HELL and give us plenty of wiggle room.

It is a fair trade from both sides.

Hockey2000nyr 05-06-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Dubinsky (Post 19443035)
Your very very wrong. This is not a baazar proposal in facts its a very realistic one for a few reasons that your naive little mind fails to realize. (thats for making fun of my proposal)

1. Frees up cap space. 7.3 gone for Gomez, Korpedo's 1 mil, Zherdevs QO would have been around 3ish so thats 11 million.

We bring back a fully capable roster player in Todd white, and get a top 5 pick to adress our needs. So overall we free up 8.5 million in cap space with Whites 2.5 cap hit.

If you pass up on that deal when you have the chance to clear that capspace and bring back a top 5 pick, your a tool.

No team is going to give boatloads of picks any more because in the NEW NHL you simply can't do that. You need to have build a winning team with high profile players, your role players, and then a few players on ELC's. You can't draft players without picks.

This would accomplish a ton of things for the Thrashers, a #1 center and winger and still have a first round pick.

Rangers get a top 5 pick and who knows maybe they could even move up another spot or two to 3rd or 2nd overall and get a player like Evander Kane or Hedman. It would be alot different cost wise moving from 4th to 2nd versus 19th to 2nd.

That would get us out of CAP HELL and give us plenty of wiggle room.

It is a fair trade from both sides.

see the funny thing is is that that is a totally unrealistic trade. NO GM, i repeat NO GM would trade that many ROSTER PLAYERS for PROPSECTS UNLESS THEY ARE IN A REBUILD. WE ARE NOT IN A REBUILD ANYMORE!!!! so you would never see a GM especially Sather make a trade like that. the only way you see Gomez traded is if we take someone who makes a little less money and has a contract that runs out in a year or two. Rozy would be the one who would gets us picks or prospects since his actual salary is at or lower then his cap hit.

and i honestly think that Atlanta will not move their 4th overall pick because of the fact that even though they want to try and make moves to help persuade Kovalchuk to stay there, but they ARE A REBUILDING TEAM! they need all of the picks they can get so if they do get kovalchuk resigned they can actually build a proper team around him this time.

Todd White on any other team is nothing mroe then a 3rd line centerman. we have enough 2-3-4th line centerman. he had a good year because he got playing time and was playing on a line with kovalchuk for games at a time.

im all for freeing up cap space, but you do that trade our lineup gets very very very bland on talent real quick. zherdev is our most talented offensive player, korpikoski is a still developing player who is a good all around player. and if your atlanta, and u have owners who dont really like spending money at this time, you honestly think they will take on 11 million in salary, and then have to resign a bunch of guys? so yea....unrealistic


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