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rt 05-19-2009 05:20 PM

What is the 2010-2011 Cap Floor...
 
...expected to be. Does anyone know for sure, or are there any educated guesses out there?

Agent007 05-19-2009 05:39 PM

At this point people don't even know what the 2009-2010 cap floor is going to be so anyone who says they know what the 2010-2011 cap floor is going to be might as well give you the lottery numbers while he's at it.

There are some who suggest the ceiling could go as low as 45 million while others believe 50 million. At this point that's the best estimated guess.

rt 05-19-2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent007 (Post 19624224)
At this point people don't even know what the 2009-2010 cap floor is going to be so anyone who says they know what the 2010-2011 cap floor is going to be might as well give you the lottery numbers while he's at it.

There are some who suggest the ceiling could go as low as 45 million while others believe 50 million. At this point that's the best estimated guess.

45-50 is narrow enough a range for me to be happy with. I was really just looking for a ballpark figure, like that. If most can agree that it's very likely to be somewhere between those two numbers, than I'm satisfied with that.

surshot* 05-19-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19624402)
45-50 is narrow enough a range for me to be happy with. I was really just looking for a ballpark figure, like that. If most can agree that it's very likely to be somewhere between those two numbers, than I'm satisfied with that.

Nobody knows for sure if any one gives you an answer there just talking out there butt.:D

ugotmybeef* 05-19-2009 06:23 PM

I've heard 48 million from alot of sources. That's what at least Burke and co believe.

rt 05-19-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by surshot (Post 19624468)
Nobody knows for sure if any one gives you an answer there just talking out there butt.:D

I'm not looking for 100%. I'm just looking for likely vs. unlikely. It's probably very unlikely that it will be as low as 40 or as high as 55, right?

boredmale 05-19-2009 06:40 PM

The more the cap goes down the better it is for my favorite team(The New York Islanders) since I know we will never spend over 45M and if it goes down a big chunk then alot of the top end teams are screwed meaning the Islanders can come in and sign a big name UFA :)

From what I hear the cap might go down 1-2M for 2009/10, no clue what happens in 2010/2011

rt 05-19-2009 09:01 PM

Any guesses for next season?

Mike Richards 18 05-19-2009 09:10 PM

so if the cap goes down to 45million does that mean there are going to be so solid second line players that are overpayed that will not be able to find a team that can fit them in?? can the NHL really do that in a time where the sport is finally making a comeback to USA after the lockout???

mm6492 05-19-2009 09:11 PM

IFFFF this economic issue was to end sooner, 10-11 could be around what it is now IMO

rt 05-19-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Richards 18 (Post 19626813)
so if the cap goes down to 45million does that mean there are going to be so solid second line players that are overpayed that will not be able to find a team that can fit them in?? can the NHL really do that in a time where the sport is finally making a comeback to USA after the lockout???

I am talking about the lower limit, not the upper limit. 45 million for the upper limit would insanely drastic.

rt 05-19-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mm6492 (Post 19626830)
IFFFF this economic issue was to end sooner, 10-11 could be around what it is now IMO

So do most expect it to drop a little, next season? To what?

brs03 05-19-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19626842)
I am talking about the lower limit, not the upper limit. 45 million for the upper limit would insanely drastic.

Lower limit is always 16 mil below the upper limit. And yeah, the general thinking is that 09-10 will be about the same as this year, if not a little lower (~56 mil upper/40 mil lower or just below), and 10-11 could drop from that even further if things don't rebound next season, numbers thrown around such as ~50 mil upper/34 mil lower but it's all just speculation at this point.

mm6492 05-19-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19626854)
So do most expect it to drop a little, next season? To what?

From what I have heard---to like 49,50

rt 05-19-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brs03 (Post 19626908)
Lower limit is always 16 mil below the upper limit. And yeah, the general thinking is that 09-10 will be about the same as this year, if not a little lower (~56 mil upper/40 mil lower or just below), and 10-11 could drop from that even further if things don't rebound next season, numbers thrown around such as ~50 mil upper/34 mil lower but it's all just speculation at this point.

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Originally Posted by mm6492 (Post 19627337)
From what I have heard---to like 49,50

Wait, what? brs03 has 40mil floor and you've got 50mil floor. That's a pretty big difference.

brs03 05-19-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19627587)
Wait, what? brs03 has 40mil floor and you've got 50mil floor. That's a pretty big difference.

He's probably still writing of the ceiling, as that's what most people are used to thinking about nowadays. There's no way the floor hits 50 mil in the next 2 years.

Joey Moss 05-19-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19626696)
Any guesses for next season?

I'd say it moves down 2 or 3 million. Just a guess though

Ado* 05-19-2009 10:14 PM

Didn't the NHL make 50 million in profits last season? Why would they cut down the cap?

Sneekypete 05-19-2009 10:17 PM

I think if the cap were to go down there would be some rule put into effect to allow some teams to not have to dump mega salary.
Maybe something like face value of a contract on frontloaded deals. So for a player with a declinind contract ,instead of taking the average they use the actual salary. Or the possibility to renegotiate contracts as long as the players union and players agree.

I am basically talking out of my rectum so dont quote me on any of this. Just throwing out suggestions.

Burlington Bomb 26 05-19-2009 10:31 PM

My guess is it moves up by like 500k this year, yes I believe it will move up, then I believe it will move up for 10-11.

Mike Richards 18 05-19-2009 11:03 PM

the NHL as a whole made profit but some teams are really struggling and others are flurishing IE Chicago Columbus etc

from what has been speculated is that the cap will be pretty close to the same next season but 10-11 is speculated to be 50m ceiling 34m floor if there isnt a solid rebound next season to prevent a lowering of cap salary limits

The Pucks 05-19-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ado (Post 19627692)
Didn't the NHL make 50 million in profits last season? Why would they cut down the cap?


The cap is based on revenue, not profit.

No matter what the cap is the NHL has to expect to turn a profit. If the NHL did indeed have a profit of 50 million last season that is horribly low compared to the amount of investment each team has.

CB Joe 05-20-2009 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19624035)
...expected to be. Does anyone know for sure, or are there any educated guesses out there?

The salary cap and floor for the 2010-11 season will be based on the revune of the 2009-10 season. Since this hasn't happened yet, any estimate you get is nothing more then a complete stab in the dark.

CB Joe 05-20-2009 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 19626696)
Any guesses for next season?

I don't expect any major changes for the 2009-10 season. Attendence actually rose for the 2008-09 season, (by an extremely small percentage), but I'd imagine merchandise to a fairly big hit this year. I'd expect a drop of a few million this season, maybe an upper limit around $52 million).

Fourier 05-20-2009 08:49 AM

As of right now it is absolutely anyone's guess!

The first significant clue will be announced at the end of June when the cap for the 2009-2010 season is released. The next best indicator will come when teams tally their season ticket renewals and deal with sponsorship issues. This means that by August or September we might be hearing some info that would give a sense of whether a large drop was in the cards. I am not sure when teams start to get updates as the whole process seems to be kept pretty close to the vest.


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