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brtriad 05-29-2009 02:09 PM

Cam Barker
 
Cam Barker is a restricted free agent this year, and I am curious how much salary and compensation you think he would receive on the open market.

JTG 05-29-2009 07:32 PM

He won't be on the open market so...nothing.

He will be retained by Chicago.

I can see him getting 2-3 million per season for 3-4 years.

caliamad 05-29-2009 08:00 PM

I can see him holding out for more... any a desperate team making him such an offer.

Seabrook makes 3.5 million and you could argue he had a better year (statistically).

PeterTheGreat 05-29-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by caliamad (Post 19732990)
I can see him holding out for more... any a desperate team making him such an offer.

Seabrook makes 3.5 million and you could argue he had a better year (statistically).

Im not a Hawks fan, but don't tell me Barker had a better year than Seabrook. I know you said statistically, but when handing out contracts you don't just look at the statistics. Seabrook is miles ahead of Barker in his own end.

mnwildfan79 05-30-2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brtriad (Post 19729680)
Cam Barker is a restricted free agent this year, and I am curious how much salary and compensation you think he would receive on the open market.

I could see him signing an offer sheet between 2.6 and 3.9, or whatever the 1st and a 3rd range ends up being with the new salary cap.

Jonathan Toews 05-30-2009 10:27 AM

Quick Question im not going to make an offer but what would it take for the leafs to get someone like barker?

MrSerious 05-30-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTG32005 (Post 19732750)
He won't be on the open market so...nothing.

He will be retained by Chicago.

I can see him getting 2-3 million per season for 3-4 years.

I really don't see him making over $2 million per season.

thefeebster 05-30-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSerious (Post 19737990)
I really don't see him making over $2 million per season.

Then i think you highly under-rate the teams desperate for decent D men. Although, he is not Seabrook/Keith level, i think he will make at the very least 2.5 mill and more like 3 or over. But if Chicago does want to keep him, he will have to sign with them in the 2 to 2.5 million range, unless Campbell is moved.

I can see Chicago matching anything under 3, but over that, they would let him go i think.

BadHammy* 05-30-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefeebster (Post 19738093)
Then i think you highly under-rate the teams desperate for decent D men. Although, he is not Seabrook/Keith level, i think he will make at the very least 2.5 mill and more like 3 or over. But if Chicago does want to keep him, he will have to sign with them in the 2 to 2.5 million range, unless Campbell is moved.

I can see Chicago matching anything under 3, but over that, they would let him go i think.

I agree with you completely. I expect some d-starved team to make a ridiculous offer for him, like 4/20m and the Hawks could let him go.

N9Y4R 05-30-2009 02:01 PM

No way Barker does not get an offer sheet. I would think he would get multiple offers anywhere from 3yr/9mil to 3/4yr/12mil would be my guess. teams are starved for D like him. I would think the Hawks match if they can work the cap.
Obviously they try to lock him up at a dicount now. I would be shocked if he makes less than 3mil/yr either way. If the Hawks can get him for 2-2.5 they should be thrilled. (won't happen)

Omar Little 05-30-2009 02:02 PM

what would it take to trade for him?

JTG 05-30-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSerious (Post 19737990)
I really don't see him making over $2 million per season.

He will on offensive potential alone.

HSF 05-30-2009 02:54 PM

Barker WONT get an offersheet

draft picks are too valuable now a days

N9Y4R 05-30-2009 03:01 PM

A 3mil per offer sheet compensates with a 1 and a 3. A proven 23yo 20min/g 40p dman (who still has potential to improve) many GM's will feel is worth a 1 and a 3. IMHO

DisgruntledHawkFan 05-30-2009 03:21 PM

People don't see him play defense anywhere enough. Barker is Phaneuf-lite.

N9Y4R 05-30-2009 03:29 PM

(potential to improve) in his own zone.;)

Tavaresmagicalplay* 05-30-2009 03:34 PM

Man Chicago got screwed over when Washington won the lottery. Could've had Malkin. Instead they got Cam-frickin'-Barker. Meh, I guess everything balanced out when they moved up 4 spots to nab Kane.

mercury 05-30-2009 03:43 PM

Barker would be a nice addition to the Flyers.

Barney Gumble 05-30-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSF (Post 19738731)
Barker WONT get an offersheet

draft picks are too valuable now a days

It's not like the 2010 draft class is expected to be a great one. I'll take Cam Barker over a 1st round pick in 2010.

Andrew B 05-30-2009 03:57 PM

Hes going to get the same contract Grebeshkov, Edler, Erhoff, Vlasic blah blah blah get...

3.1-3.25 Million on a 3-4 year contract.

Personally I dislike his game, I think he's slow, and too much of a risk in his own end, and as the game ebbs and flows, I think people will (or already have) realize that 1 dimensional puck movers don't a defensemen make.

Personally I already see the value of the shut-down physical Defensemen sky rocketing, then again, I live in Edmonton.

shadow1 05-30-2009 04:28 PM

3.5-4 million is what he'll get based on the way contracts to young players have been given out lately.

JTG 05-30-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N9Y4R (Post 19738802)
A 3mil per offer sheet compensates with a 1 and a 3. A proven 23yo 20min/g 40p dman (who still has potential to improve) many GM's will feel is worth a 1 and a 3. IMHO

I agree. You figure if you are picking in the 1st round, Barker is less risk than any 18 year old being picked. So in reality, a team is giving up a 3rd rounder for him.

The problem with these offer sheets is GM's signing guys who couldn't possibly live up to the salary they are being offered. I think Barker can live up to 3 million dollars a year. I saw him play a few times this year and have come away very impressed with his offensive game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisgruntledHawkFan (Post 19738978)
People don't see him play defense anywhere enough. Barker is Phaneuf-lite.

I think the concerns about his defensive game are blown out of proportion. The difference between Phaneuf and Barker is athleticism and speed.

brtriad 05-30-2009 08:00 PM

I don't see us going more than 3 million on him. The potential is there, but we aren't going to shell out more than three in our current cap situation. Compensation wise, does a 1st and a 3rd sound right?

boredmale 05-30-2009 08:05 PM

Not sure chicago would do it but if they really want to trade him, I would deal SJ's first rounder if I was the Islanders

Chayos 05-30-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSF (Post 19738731)
Barker WONT get an offersheet

draft picks are too valuable now a days


Barker is going to cost you 4+ million because teams can do a RFA offer and get him for a 1st, 2nd or 3rd. This seems pretty reasonable for a 3rd overall pick to me.


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