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Peter Griffin 06-01-2009 08:09 PM

Expressen: Sedins ask for $63 million over 12 years each - Sedin Contract Talks Here
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...for-the-sedins

Not sure how reliable this is, but if true, that's awesome news. Front load the deal so that the last few years are virtually worthless to the Sedins and they retire to go back to Modo when their play declines below their cap hit.

CrosbyCrosby* 06-01-2009 08:09 PM

hopefully it's true

y2kcanucks 06-01-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Griffin (Post 19766595)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...for-the-sedins

Not sure how reliable this is, but if true, that's awesome news. Front load the deal so that the last few years are virtually worthless to the Sedins and they retire to go back to Modo when their play declines below their cap hit.

Wow...was hoping the cap hit would be a bit lower than that but still a cap hit of $5M each is a lot better than I was expecting after the reports in the media the past few months.

I could live with this.

timw33 06-01-2009 08:14 PM

Sign me up.

They retire or leave for Sweden after 4-6 years and their cap hit comes off the cap.

Heck, if they retire at any time during the contract it comes off the books.

This saves us 2-4M a year off the speculated price and allows us to either add a top 6 forward or allocate money for a #1 Dman.

Placebo Effect 06-01-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yumphod (Post 19766606)
hopefully it's true

+1 Most people had Sedins as a 5.5 cap hit each in their proposals

dittohead 06-01-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kcanucks (Post 19766631)
Wow...was hoping the cap hit would be a bit lower than that but still a cap hit of $5M each is a lot better than I was expecting after the reports in the media the past few months.

I could live with this.

You hoped for a cap hit of less than $5 million each? A little too optimistic I think.

Saren 06-01-2009 08:16 PM

If Gilils can somehow get it to 4.5 (Cap Hit), he would be my hero.

timw33 06-01-2009 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeon (Post 19766677)
If Gilils can somehow get it to 4.5 (Cap Hit), he would be my hero.

That would be way too epic to believe.

5M is totally manageable though.

AlexandreBurrows 06-01-2009 08:19 PM

git er done

y2kcanucks 06-01-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dittohead (Post 19766668)
You hoped for a cap hit of less than $5 million each? A little too optimistic I think.

I can't remember where I read it but I read somewhere that their cap hits could end up being $4.6M each, so I was hoping for that.

Ajackalit 06-01-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Griffin (Post 19766595)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...for-the-sedins

Not sure how reliable this is, but if true, that's awesome news. Front load the deal so that the last few years are virtually worthless to the Sedins and they retire to go back to Modo when their play declines below their cap hit.

Bleacher Report is a blogging community - reliability is zero IMO. It drives me crazy that google "news" searches don't exclude material from "bleacher report".

Placebo Effect 06-01-2009 08:20 PM

Well he would just need to tack on one more year each to get it to 4.5. 11 year would take them to 39. Frankly 40 could not be inconceivable either as they have shown to be really durable. That would be 12 years for a cap hit of 4.167

ChemicalHansen 06-01-2009 08:21 PM

Look for J.P. "Brand Name Agent" Barry to find the middle ground --> 5.5 mil, same length? Maybe a shorter contract with bonuses? I'm not very knowledgeable about the cap, tbh.

Either way, that's a reasonable number to start the negotiations. I definitely want them here ... for no more 5.5 mil (which is very possible, if Gillis wants a shorter contract).

Wayne Maki 06-01-2009 08:21 PM

"Latest word from the Vancouver media is that the Canucks offered $5 million for 10 years ($100M) to Henrik and Daniel Sedin each."

Sounds like he is just posting a rumor made up by the media.

tRaDiNgYo 06-01-2009 08:23 PM

TEN YEARS?!?!?!
you've gotta be joking me....

Payaso619* 06-01-2009 08:26 PM

I'm hoping for a smaller cap hit than 5M, something along the lines of 4.5-4.75. That would be incredible, and completely manageable. I wonder how it would be structured if they were offered that amount.

MTechnik 06-01-2009 08:27 PM

I hope this is true because it would make Scott Niedermayer a reality and not a pipe dream.

Ajackalit 06-01-2009 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tRaDiNgYo (Post 19766763)
TEN YEARS?!?!?!
you've gotta be joking me....

Basically the only way to keep a team together now. If the deal is structured so that the players earn very little in the last few years of the deal......they probably retire and the cap hit goes away.

Saren 06-01-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timw33 (Post 19766692)
That would be way too epic to believe.

5M is totally manageable though.

Is it. But 4.5 would be GODLY, as you put it.

So many more doors open up if Gillis and his capologist could somehow construct a contract like that.

Weeee, exciting.

Placebo Effect 06-01-2009 08:30 PM

For guys like the Sedins it's fine since they have been durable and consistent. As others have said they'll probably play maybe 6 more years in the NHL or so. So if you can structure it so they get most of the money in that time frame (or however many years they tell Gillis/Gillman).

As long as they get the amount they want in the number of years they plan to play that's really all that matters to them. I'm sure they won't care about tacking on a few extra years for minimum dollars (years they don't plan on playing in the NHL) if it meant helping the team win.

FruityPants3* 06-01-2009 08:37 PM

$12.5m for a signed first line? That would be pretty strong cap management.

dittohead 06-01-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kcanucks (Post 19766708)
I can't remember where I read it but I read somewhere that their cap hits could end up being $4.6M each, so I was hoping for that.

$4.6 million cap hit each would be nothing short of incredible. I still think $5 million is a good deal. Get 'er done Gillis.

Payaso619* 06-01-2009 09:07 PM

7 7 7 7 7 4 4 4 2 1

Does this mean, if they retire on the 7th year of their contract the 4 2 1 will be out of the owners pockets? How does this work...

Zorbane 06-01-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payaso619 (Post 19767190)
7 7 7 7 7 4 4 4 2 1

Does this mean, if they retire on the 7th year of their contract the 4 2 1 will be out of the owners pockets? How does this work...

If they're retired they don't get paid (and no cap hit).

However if they were above 35 when they were signed then there would still be a cap hit (not sure if they still get paid or not im guessing no)

Bam19 06-01-2009 09:26 PM

If this is true I would assume it would look like this

7-7-7-7-6-6-5-2-2-1

Which would be great

But it would be so much better if it was

7-7-7-7-6-6-5-2-2-1-1


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