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BrindamoursNose 06-03-2009 08:23 PM

Phi-Chi
 
Just hear me out here. I threw this out to my buddy, who is a neutral fan, and he said this is stupid..BUT I'd like to hear from others that it is stupid. (This is still under the assumption that Philly needs a top d-man, and Chi needs a legit 2nd line center).

To Phi:

Brian Campbell
rights to Samuel Pahlsson

to Chi:

Daniel Briere
Rights to Antero Niittymaki
and we'll say a 4th rounder this or next season.

Swaps two major salaries for another, rights of two players, and Chi gets a pick. What do you think? (void the NMC or NTC of each player...this is purely just based on value and if it'd make sense for both teams.)

ELab2 06-03-2009 08:27 PM

no for me, Briere is a better value that Campbell in my eyes and I don't really have interest in any expensive dman who can't play D well

Hollywood Couturier 06-03-2009 08:31 PM

Campbell is getting paid $7,142,875
Briere is getting paid $6,500,000

and even if Pahlsson resigns for the same money thats $1,400,000

so all in all the Flyers add $2,042,875 in salary

BrindamoursNose 06-03-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hamels (Post 19789893)
Campbell is getting paid $7,142,875
Briere is getting paid $6,500,000

and even if Pahlsson resigns for the same money thats $1,400,000

so all in all the Flyers add $2,042,875 in salary

But we get a top pairing defenseman, which we need sorely, and a shut down center. That addresses two major problems this offseason...basically it is trading what we have a lot of for what we don't....What's your point you're trying to make?

Blackhawkswincup 06-03-2009 08:55 PM

Campbell = Healthy
Briere= Unhealthy

Hawks pass. Briere seems to suffer alot of injuries and I think losing Campbell would hurt Hawks PP

Blackwater13* 06-03-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 19790127)
Campbell = Healthy
Briere= Unhealthy

Hawks pass. Briere seems to suffer alot of injuries and I think losing Campbell would hurt Hawks PP

This. Campbell is over paid but he had a big impact on the Hawks this season.

Blades of Glory 06-03-2009 08:59 PM

Sami Pahlsson is really not the same player he was in 2007 on the Ducks' championship-winning team. He's lost a step, and while he is still a more than capable defensive forward, I don't think he carries the value he once did. I don't think Philadelphia's defense/goaltending is going to benefit at all from acquiring Campbell, either.

mercury 06-03-2009 09:06 PM

I'd be a lot more interested in Cam Barker, to be honest.

ELab2 06-03-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrindamoursNose (Post 19789984)
But we get a top pairing defenseman, which we need sorely, and a shut down center.

He's not the kind of 1st pairing dman that the Flyers need.

RJ8812 06-03-2009 09:30 PM

no thanks from a Flyer POV

there's only a few players who have a worse contract then Briere, and Campbell is one of them

massey1984 06-03-2009 10:06 PM

The only trade I would like to see the Hawks make with the Flyers is:

Byfuglien
The rights to Versteeg, Barker and Niemi

for

Carter
2009 or 2010 1st round pick

Kaktus* 06-03-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massey1984 (Post 19790722)
The only trade I would like to see the Hawks make with the Flyers is:

Byfuglien
The rights to Versteeg, Barker and Niemi

for

Carter
2009 or 2010 1st round pick

Is that all?

mercury 06-03-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massey1984 (Post 19790722)
The only trade I would like to see the Hawks make with the Flyers is:

Byfuglien
The rights to Versteeg, Barker and Niemi

for

Carter
2009 or 2010 1st round pick


That is the greatest first post I've ever seen on these boards. Congrats.

AK 06-03-2009 10:14 PM

Briere > Campbell.

Neither is on a good contract, but Briere is more productive for less money.

Pahlsson's a nice chip, but he doesn't make this deal.

mm6492 06-03-2009 10:15 PM

We need a defensive d-man, not Campbell. We need to rid ourselves of salary, not add more

No from Philadelphia, and probable no from Chicago

Hawksfan12* 06-03-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 19790127)
Campbell = Healthy
Briere= Unhealthy

Hawks pass. Briere seems to suffer alot of injuries and I think losing Campbell would hurt Hawks PP

This. As much as campbell contract hurts if we want to win it all next year we need him imo.

Kaktus* 06-03-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawksfan12 (Post 19790993)
This. As much as campbell contract hurts if we want to win it all next year we need him imo.

Really? How about healthy Havlat (if is signed) and Huet actually playing like #1 goalie. I think Khabibulin is as good as gone.

You want to win it all next year? :laugh:

Blackhawkswincup 06-04-2009 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaktus (Post 19791176)
Really? How about healthy Havlat (if is signed) and Huet actually playing like #1 goalie. I think Khabibulin is as good as gone.

You want to win it all next year? :laugh:

:help:

We got closer then your team!

Giroux tha Damaja 06-04-2009 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 19791960)
:help:

We got closer then your team!

Our Dad can beat up your Dad.

Hockeypete49 06-04-2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrindamoursNose (Post 19789815)
Just hear me out here. I threw this out to my buddy, who is a neutral fan, and he said this is stupid..BUT I'd like to hear from others that it is stupid. (This is still under the assumption that Philly needs a top d-man, and Chi needs a legit 2nd line center).

To Phi:

Brian Campbell
rights to Samuel Pahlsson

to Chi:

Daniel Briere
Rights to Antero Niittymaki
and we'll say a 4th rounder this or next season.

Swaps two major salaries for another, rights of two players, and Chi gets a pick. What do you think? (void the NMC or NTC of each player...this is purely just based on value and if it'd make sense for both teams.)

Campbell should ware a mask when he receives his pay check. The Flyers say NO!

Blackwater13* 06-04-2009 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letang58 (Post 19790790)
Briere > Campbell.

Neither is on a good contract, but Briere is more productive for less money.

Pahlsson's a nice chip, but he doesn't make this deal.

Until Briere can stay on the ice, Campbell > Briere.

Blackwater13* 06-04-2009 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaktus (Post 19791176)
Really?

Yes, really.

LEIFey 06-04-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwater13 (Post 19792458)
Until Briere can stay on the ice, Campbell > Briere.

briere had no issues after he came back from his one injury. i really don't get this belief that he's injury prone.

who_me? 06-04-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELab2 (Post 19790317)
He's not the kind of 1st pairing dman that the Flyers need.

right, the Flyers need another big, slow, physical, defensive d-man. Is it any wonder you can't get out of the 1st round anymore, much less past the skilled and fast Penguins. Flyers should be trying to beat Pitts at their own game... And not try to intimidate Crosby and Malkin with big d-men and meatheads like Carcillo and Emery.

Prediction for next season: another 1st round exit for Philly

Anyway, pass on Briere

Kaktus* 06-04-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who_me? (Post 19792782)
right, the Flyers need another big, slow, physical, defensive d-man. Is it any wonder you can't get out of the 1st round anymore, much less past the skilled and fast Penguins. Flyers should be trying to beat Pitts at their own game... And not try to intimidate Crosby and Malkin with big d-men and meatheads like Carcillo and Emery.

Prediction for next season: another 1st round exit for Philly

Anyway, pass on Briere

Yes, because Pens are very easy team to beat and thats thats why they are in the cup finals again this year and thats why Flyers suck.

Do you see big difference between Emery or Huet? I do not, actually I do, that huge contract.


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