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Sureves 06-10-2009 09:59 AM

Ott-Nyi
 
To NYI: Heatley, Kelly, 1st '09

To Ottawa: 1st overall '09, Streit, 2nd '09

SpezDispenser 06-10-2009 10:11 AM

Potentially not a bad deal to be honest.

4thliner* 06-10-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sureves (Post 19860975)
To NYI: Heatley, Kelly, 1st '09

To Ottawa: 1st overall '09, Streit, 2nd '09

That is terrible...for Ottawa

So NYI and Ott exchange 1 and 9 for Heatley??


Ottawa should be trading anything else, 28 year old 50 goal 100 pt player is enough IMO.

They need to get an NHl contributer, a dynamite young prospect, and a top 5 pick for Heatley.

Plus I can bet my house Heatley does not waive his NTC to NYI.

Sureves 06-10-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thliner (Post 19861270)
That is terrible...for Ottawa

So NYI and Ott exchange 1 and 9 for Heatley??


Ottawa should be trading anything else, 28 year old 50 goal 100 pt player is enough IMO.

They need to get an NHl contributer, a dynamite young prospect, and a top 5 pick for Heatley.

Plus I can bet my house Heatley does not waive his NTC to NYI.

I don't even know if you read the proposal? Ottawa is NOT exchanging 9 for 1 for Heatley, they are gaining Streit, a 2nd round pick, and finally getting rid of Kelly.

Comely 06-10-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sureves (Post 19861563)
I don't even know if you read the proposal? Ottawa is NOT exchanging 9 for 1 for Heatley, they are gaining Streit, a 2nd round pick, and finally getting rid of Kelly.

I would rather include Smith then Kelly unless we get indications that his injuries are forcing him to retire. Streit took his number 1 defenceman and he flourished with it.

4thliner* 06-10-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sureves (Post 19861563)
I don't even know if you read the proposal? Ottawa is NOT exchanging 9 for 1 for Heatley, they are gaining Streit, a 2nd round pick, and finally getting rid of Kelly.

I read what you wrote, it was exchange of 1st and 9 and Streit and 2nd. That is not a good deal for Heatley is the bottom line. Getting rid of Kelly shouldnt be that hard for a usefull 3rd liner making 2 mill or so.

Yitz 06-10-2009 11:23 AM

This would be a pretty dumb move for the Islanders. We get rid of our best d-man from last season just to get Heatley, a third liner and the 9th overall? I'd rather stick with our top d-man and the first overall thank you very much.

Kostas X 06-10-2009 11:27 AM

Islanders wouldn't do this. Doesn't make sense for them to do it.

They aren't ready to compete now, no point in adding Heatley and dropping out of the top 5 in the draft. Plus they lose their best (only?) dman in the process.

Value wise it may be somewhat close, but it doesn't make sense for the Islanders to do this IMO.

Anasazi 06-10-2009 11:37 AM

Isles overpay, as much as i'd like to do this trade...

IslesBeBack* 06-10-2009 11:41 AM

Heatley is a great talent, but it ends there. He fails to accomplish and produce when it matters, and the Islanders have sucked for far too long to blow it now. Trading for a player who wants out of a great hockey city and off a pretty damn good team is not admirable.. and he's sure to be put through much more before the Islanders contend on Long Island. Not the character mark of a player you give the 1st overall up for.

Secondly, Streit goes nowhere. He's a HUGE asset, is our best player and defenseman, and adds so many dimensions to this hockey club. A future Hedman-Streit combo is not something I hope the Islanders pass up on. What a treat.

Not a bad deal, but Heatley likely doesn't and will not come to Long Island. Just not the player you give up the first overall on, my opinion: as always.

AKAY47 06-10-2009 11:57 AM

Heatley has a no movement clause
why in the world would he accept a deal to the Islanders?

4thliner* 06-10-2009 11:58 AM

Isn't this 32 year old former Hab Mark Streit, who Ottawa could have signed as UFA if they wanted to pay up the money for him, we are talking about?

The fact that PP specialist Streit is the best player in long Island says more about the state of that team and why they need to keep drafting and developing their young players. I agree, if NYI are 5+ year away from contending then they probably do not need to trade for and add a 28 year old superstar at this point.

The Brazen Head 06-10-2009 12:06 PM

I would also pass on this deal from the Isles point of view for the reasons others have stated.

danishh 06-10-2009 12:43 PM

the islanders are not a possible destination for heater...

Darth Milbury 06-10-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sureves (Post 19860975)
To NYI: Heatley, Kelly, 1st '09

To Ottawa: 1st overall '09, Streit, 2nd '09


I knew it was just a matter of time before we saw a Heatley to Isles proposal.

Sigh. So predictable! :help:


Now, cue the debates about proven stars vs. the value of prospects and let's get this thing going!

Darth Milbury 06-10-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thliner (Post 19862317)
Isn't this 32 year old former Hab Mark Streit, who Ottawa could have signed as UFA if they wanted to pay up the money for him, we are talking about?

The fact that PP specialist Streit is the best player in long Island says more about the state of that team and why they need to keep drafting and developing their young players. I agree, if NYI are 5+ year away from contending then they probably do not need to trade for and add a 28 year old superstar at this point.


Actually, I think this post just shows how little you know about Streit.

Caseus 06-10-2009 01:09 PM

I'd sell my wife for the chance to draft Tavares, but I just can't see the Islanders trading the first overall pick, and I can't see Heater accepting the move.

Err....don't tell my wife about this, k?

Darth Milbury 06-10-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foamy (Post 19863216)
I'd sell my wife for the chance to draft Tavares, but I just can't see the Islanders trading the first overall pick, and I can't see Heater accepting the move.

Err....don't tell my wife about this, k?


LOL.

P.S. I think your handle and avatar are both hysterical too.

Comely 06-10-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thliner (Post 19862317)
Isn't this 32 year old former Hab Mark Streit, who Ottawa could have signed as UFA if they wanted to pay up the money for him, we are talking about?

The fact that PP specialist Streit is the best player in long Island says more about the state of that team and why they need to keep drafting and developing their young players. I agree, if NYI are 5+ year away from contending then they probably do not need to trade for and add a 28 year old superstar at this point.

Well no one wanted to give Striet the money he wanted because they all thought he was merely a PP specialist. If you havent seen him play on the island then just look at his stats 56 pts and +6 while playing with the ISLANDERS this is not a team that could shelter defensive shortcommings he is the only positive player that played more then 25 games for the team.

Huston 06-10-2009 01:32 PM

Islanders would do this strait up if it was Mike Milbury in charge.

:handclap:

heatley_fan* 06-10-2009 01:33 PM

Considering that Streit would be a top pairing defenseman in Ottawa, I would take this deal and run.

But I'm afraid NYI hangs up the phone.

STEVENS4 06-10-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatientlyWaiting (Post 19862094)
Heatley is a great talent, but it ends there. He fails to accomplish and produce when it matters, and the Islanders have sucked for far too long to blow it now. Trading for a player who wants out of a great hockey city and off a pretty damn good team is not admirable.. and he's sure to be put through much more before the Islanders contend on Long Island. Not the character mark of a player you give the 1st overall up for.

Secondly, Streit goes nowhere. He's a HUGE asset, is our best player and defenseman, and adds so many dimensions to this hockey club. A future Hedman-Streit combo is not something I hope the Islanders pass up on. What a treat.

Not a bad deal, but Heatley likely doesn't and will not come to Long Island. Just not the player you give up the first overall on, my opinion: as always.


... lets not go too far with this one.

Dick Whitman 06-10-2009 01:43 PM

Any possibility of a Heatley/Lee for #1/Okposo or Streit deal?

I know of the huge mancrush on Okposo on the Island which is why i added the either/or. Opening it up for discussion anyways.

IslesBeBack* 06-10-2009 01:52 PM

No, are you nuts? Okposo is going nowhere. This kid is going to explode next year. If anyone wants Okposo, start by getting over that pipe dream, and than add some sanity.

Darth Milbury 06-10-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiphopopotamus (Post 19863671)
Any possibility of a Heatley/Lee for #1/Okposo or Streit deal?

I know of the huge mancrush on Okposo on the Island which is why i added the either/or. Opening it up for discussion anyways.

I'm not sure what would make you guys think you'll get this kind of value in general for Heatley. heatley is a great player but, the Hossa deal notwithstanding, it is nearly impossible to get value for a superstar in deal - especially a superstar with a big contract. If Heatley does get move, I think that SENS fans will be very, very disappointed with the return.

But, this stuff with the Isles is silly even for this board. Isles are not trading Okposo, Streit, or the first. Simply not happening. Heatley is not waiving his NMC to come to the Island anyway, and Wang would never approve that contract (especially will all the doubts about the new building).


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