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dangler71 07-11-2009 08:30 PM

D Seth Jones - Portland Winterhawks (2013 Draft)
 
There was a page on this kid in Sports Illustrated, and it talked about how he is "reminiscent of nicklas lidstrom." It seemed to me like they were hyping this kid up as if he is about to be the next stud defenseman in the nhl, even though he is only 14 years old. Has anyone seen this kid play or have any input on him?

Brandinho 07-11-2009 08:50 PM

He's the next Sam Calabrese.

YogiCanucks 07-11-2009 08:57 PM

He's the next Steven Anthony.

SiouxPride 07-11-2009 09:40 PM

Hes the next Nikals Lidstrom .. :sarcasm:

Ishdul 07-11-2009 09:59 PM

The only reason he was talked up by SI is because he's Popeye Jones' kid. Not to say that he's bad or anything but he wouldn't be getting any SI articles about him if he were any other kid from Colorado.

And yeah, I kind of doubt the Lidstrom comparison.

YogiCanucks 07-11-2009 10:00 PM

OT: but Seth seems like a name of a kid that would have attitude problems.

SiouxPride 07-11-2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YogiCanucks (Post 20392529)
OT: but Seth seems like a name of a kid that would have attitude problems.

lolololol, you make me laugh Yogi, =)

Heat McManus 07-11-2009 10:38 PM

Has anybody actually seen him play? the kid was taken 11th in the WHL draft. there's obviously something that scouts see.

wings5 07-12-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vakar Lajos (Post 20392793)
Has anybody actually seen him play? the kid was taken 11th in the WHL draft. there's obviously something that scouts see.

I don't think anyone who has posted here knows anything about him. He is in no way the next Lidstrom he is still really raw though posses extremely high potential still very young though. He won't be eligible until the 2013 draft due to his late birthday (October 3rd, 1994). He will likely be a behemoth by then and even more so if/when he steps into the NHL. As previously mentioned his dad was a journeyman NBA player who got himself and his kids interesed in hovkey when he played for the Toronto Raptors. His dad Popeye did pass down something important to Seth and that was size. Popeye stands 6'8 and Seth has grown from 5'9 140lbs one year to 5'11 150lbs the next to 6'1 155 the next and now stands about 6'3 and weighs 170, he is expected to get much bigger. He is trying to decide whether he will play for Everett who drafted him in the first round in the latest bantam draft or if he will go the NCAA route which might inlude the USHL (Waterloo holds his rights I believe) or the USNTDP although they are now playing in the same league. He said he wants to play in the NHL at 19 (earliest he can play due to being a late birthday draft eligible player. The sky is the limit for Seth though, height wise as well.:laugh:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200.../1003/SPORTS08

dangler71 07-12-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wings5 (Post 20393459)
I don't think anyone who has posted here knows anything about him. He is in no way the next Lidstrom he is still really raw though posses extremely high potential still very young though. He won't be eligible until the 2013 draft due to his late birthday (October 3rd, 1994). He will likely be a behemoth by then and even more so if/when he steps into the NHL. As previously mentioned his dad was a journeyman NBA player who got himself and his kids interesed in hovkey when he played for the Toronto Raptors. His dad Popeye did pass down something important to Seth and that was size. Popeye stands 6'8 and Seth has grown from 5'9 140lbs one year to 5'11 150lbs the next to 6'1 155 the next and now stands about 6'3 and weighs 170, he is expected to get much bigger. He is trying to decide whether he will play for Everett who drafted him in the first round in the latest bantam draft or if he will go the NCAA route which might inlude the USHL (Waterloo holds his rights I believe) or the USNTDP although they are now playing in the same league. He said he wants to play in the NHL at 19 (earliest he can play due to being a late birthday draft eligible player. The sky is the limit for Seth though, height wise as well.:laugh:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200.../1003/SPORTS08

Thanks for the input, I was just wondering what people knew about this kid, hes only 14 years old. When they came out with this edition last year I remember they did the hockey player on Taylor Hall, who obviously is pretty well known along these boards. I had never heard of this kid before, and was wondering who knew about him.

R S 07-12-2009 01:37 PM

Yeah i remember reading something on him in my local paper right around last years bantam draft. The kid seems to have lots of potential considering he's already that size at such a young age...giving him more time to get used to his awkwardness. I seem to remember that the article said he wouldve been a higher pick in the bantam draft, but there were concerns about which route he would take to the NHL and may not even play in the WHL.

SP 07-12-2009 02:26 PM

Wait, I thought Anton Stralman and Victor Hedman were the next Lidstrom.

texashockeytalent 03-01-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YogiCanucks (Post 20392529)
OT: but Seth seems like a name of a kid that would have attitude problems.

i have seen him play and he has a great attitude and work ethic, he was the captain of his team

Sens98 03-01-2010 10:18 PM

Seth Jones isn't even the best 94 defenseman in the USA. Nick Ebert, Trouba, Iafrate (in any order) than Jones.

Rally Donkey 03-02-2010 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wings5 (Post 20393459)
I don't think anyone who has posted here knows anything about him. He is in no way the next Lidstrom he is still really raw though posses extremely high potential still very young though. He won't be eligible until the 2013 draft due to his late birthday (October 3rd, 1994). He will likely be a behemoth by then and even more so if/when he steps into the NHL. As previously mentioned his dad was a journeyman NBA player who got himself and his kids interesed in hovkey when he played for the Toronto Raptors. His dad Popeye did pass down something important to Seth and that was size. Popeye stands 6'8 and Seth has grown from 5'9 140lbs one year to 5'11 150lbs the next to 6'1 155 the next and now stands about 6'3 and weighs 170, he is expected to get much bigger. He is trying to decide whether he will play for Everett who drafted him in the first round in the latest bantam draft or if he will go the NCAA route which might inlude the USHL (Waterloo holds his rights I believe) or the USNTDP although they are now playing in the same league. He said he wants to play in the NHL at 19 (earliest he can play due to being a late birthday draft eligible player. The sky is the limit for Seth though, height wise as well.:laugh:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200.../1003/SPORTS08

Well, hot damn, somebody on in this forum actually knows what he's talking about. This answer is bang on. I haven't seen him play in a few years. How's his mobility? His older brothers played the game, too. Are they still playing & how are they doing at it?

Joe Hallenback 03-02-2010 01:31 PM

I am pretty sure he is going to be in Everett next season

AmericanDream 03-03-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Hallenback (Post 24223856)
I am pretty sure he is going to be in Everett next season

This...

I would be shocked if this kid did not go the WHL route...imo, it is the best thing for him to do at this point.

AmericanDream 03-03-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sens98 (Post 24213561)
Seth Jones isn't even the best 94 defenseman in the USA. Nick Ebert, Trouba, Iafrate (in any order) than Jones.

all are great players, but I am not sure I would have Iafrate over Jones, but it is all a matter of opinion. these kids are way too young to say who is really better then who at this stage...I couldnt care less who is better now, I care about who will be better come draft day and beyond.

If Jones goes to the WHL and shines for Everett, he could easily jump this group as his size puts him above the group....although I think Iafrate will continue to grow as well..

SabresSharks 03-03-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanDream (Post 24273834)
This...

I would be shocked if this kid did not go the WHL route...imo, it is the best thing for him to do at this point.

Why? It sounds like he's somewhat raw and will take a while to grow into his still-growing body.

I thought those traits epitomized someone who would benefit from the NCAA route: much higher practice/game ratio than major junior, better weight training facilities and strength coaching, etc.

AmericanDream 03-03-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcspence (Post 24274379)
Why? It sounds like he's somewhat raw and will take a while to grow into his still-growing body.

I thought those traits epitomized someone who would benefit from the NCAA route: much higher practice/game ratio than major junior, better weight training facilities and strength coaching, etc.

well he might be a tad bit raw, but the kid definitely has the overall size and skill, that I can see him being a very good player at a young age imo. I think he would be better suited for the WHL because of his huge size already, and that he will be able to learn on the job, playing as a 16 year old, instead of fighting for ice time in college. Though he may go USHL route (including the USNDP), but being a high pick like that for the WHL, you have to believe that Everett as well believes he will come over much sooner then later.

I dont think that college is a bad place for him to go at all, it is just more of a gut feeling as to where I think he can benefit the most early on....

The Exiled One 03-03-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanDream (Post 24275625)
well he might be a tad bit raw, but the kid definitely has the overall size and skill, that I can see him being a very good player at a young age imo. I think he would be better suited for the WHL because of his huge size already, and that he will be able to learn on the job, playing as a 16 year old, instead of fighting for ice time in college. Though he may go USHL route (including the USNDP), but being a high pick like that for the WHL, you have to believe that Everett as well believes he will come over much sooner then later.

I dont think that college is a bad place for him to go at all, it is just more of a gut feeling as to where I think he can benefit the most early on....

I don't think Jones would get any more playing time at Everett than he would at Waterloo. He'd get the most playing time at the NTDP. And, with either Waterloo or the NTDP, he could still end up in Everett later on.

Still though, considering Murray State doesn't have a hockey program, I think he goes to Everett.

wings5 03-03-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcspence (Post 24274379)
Why? It sounds like he's somewhat raw and will take a while to grow into his still-growing body.

I thought those traits epitomized someone who would benefit from the NCAA route: much higher practice/game ratio than major junior, better weight training facilities and strength coaching, etc.

Well people have said Joe Colborne should have went the WHL route to speed up his development. Yes the NTDP and college route does have superior off ice regimens but Jones is not a 4 year college guy. Don't forget of his late birthdate, imo the best thing for him would be the NTDP and then the WHL ala Kane and Mueller. The NTDP will provide him with good competition in the USHL, international experiance and great off-ice conditioning. Straight to the dub or USHL wouldn't be a bad thing either by learning from older players but not NCAA imo.

Rookie Chargers 03-03-2010 06:09 PM

I didn't know he was born yet so I can't doubt what they say about him.

I'll wait for the kid to prove other wise.

texashockeytalent 07-03-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wings5 (Post 20393459)
I don't think anyone who has posted here knows anything about him. He is in no way the next Lidstrom he is still really raw though posses extremely high potential still very young though. He won't be eligible until the 2013 draft due to his late birthday (October 3rd, 1994). He will likely be a behemoth by then and even more so if/when he steps into the NHL. As previously mentioned his dad was a journeyman NBA player who got himself and his kids interesed in hovkey when he played for the Toronto Raptors. His dad Popeye did pass down something important to Seth and that was size. Popeye stands 6'8 and Seth has grown from 5'9 140lbs one year to 5'11 150lbs the next to 6'1 155 the next and now stands about 6'3 and weighs 170, he is expected to get much bigger. He is trying to decide whether he will play for Everett who drafted him in the first round in the latest bantam draft or if he will go the NCAA route which might inlude the USHL (Waterloo holds his rights I believe) or the USNTDP although they are now playing in the same league. He said he wants to play in the NHL at 19 (earliest he can play due to being a late birthday draft eligible player. The sky is the limit for Seth though, height wise as well.:laugh:

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200.../1003/SPORTS08

His birthday is January 1st and he is a great player, i have spoke with him many times and seen him play many times.

Granlund2Pulkkinen* 07-03-2010 11:39 AM

My buddy played on the Texas Tornado and he would play against Seth's team and he and his brother were "sick" according to him.

FWIW.


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