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MaxHockeyBro 07-12-2009 10:40 PM

Why Bob Gainey Still Has A Job
 
Stan Fischler explains why Bob Gainey still has a job. The guy makes a real strong argument. Its hard to debate.
http://www.maxhockey.com/Fischler/Fischler_071209.php

VelvetJones 07-12-2009 10:47 PM

The guy is you?

HabsHockey 07-12-2009 10:49 PM

at least link to the right article

MaxHockeyBro 07-12-2009 10:51 PM

Link above is fixed!!!

Le Tricolore 07-12-2009 10:57 PM

Why wouldn't he have a job? I'm not going to read that.

DaHabMan 07-12-2009 10:58 PM

stan fishler..........laugh out loud!!!!!!!!

Go Habs Go 07-12-2009 11:03 PM

This article is ridiculous. Just comparing him to Milbury is ignorant.

Milbury traded away Luongo, Bertuzzi, Chara, Spezza, McCabe...among a long list of insane transactions. Gainey trading for Gomez isn't even close to any of Milbury's craziest deals. Its overexageration and it shows the writer's bias and personal feelings towards the Montreal Canadiens. Any journalists that aren't objective are garbage to me.

Uber Coca 07-12-2009 11:05 PM

Bob Gainey has given the fans some reasons to be excited about next season.

le_sean 07-12-2009 11:07 PM

Gainey still has a job because he is a good GM. Do people honestly forget how bad this team was in the late 90s early 2000s? Yanic Perreault leading the team in scoring one year. The team has restocked its prospect pool and are now competitive.

habsman56 07-12-2009 11:09 PM

Why wouldn't have a job? This is really stupid. Gainey makes one trade people don't agree with (Which led to us signing other free agents, something we've had trouble with before) and all of a sudden it's weird that he still has a job?

Fish on The Sand 07-12-2009 11:12 PM

lol what a terrible article.

Natedawg 07-12-2009 11:16 PM

My God.

Fire Brunet* 07-12-2009 11:38 PM

Gillett has been the owner since 2001 and he still is... I don't see the endless ownership crisis...

DDs not undersized 07-12-2009 11:39 PM

/thread

CPrice 07-12-2009 11:43 PM

Wow terrible article, I quickly skimmed through it as soon as I saw him being compared to Mad Mike. Please do us all a favor and stop promoting your articles on here, they're not worth the bandwidth.

ChokingV 07-12-2009 11:47 PM

The articles written on this website make high school newspapers look like The New York Times. Terrible.

massivegoonery 07-12-2009 11:51 PM

More MaxHockey failure.

Cone 07-13-2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Can all these diverse personalities turn the Habs into Haves or Hab-Nots?

Time will tell.
lol.

Miller Time 07-13-2009 12:09 AM

he's still got a job more because Gillete WAS the owner up until this summer, than because of the ownership change coinciding with a terrible season.

the new owners have enough ties to the hockey world to both appreciate Gainey's place amongst the greats of the Habs legacy(and thus not want to fire him and bring in their own guy from the start), and to have a much shorter leash in place should he continue to mismanage the team moving forward (whereas Gillete was an "absentee" owner in the sense of leaving all of the hockey decisions to the hockey department. All he cared about was turning a profit, which the team did in spades over the past few years, so as far as he cared, we could continue this mediocre run of short playoff runs for ever, or at least until he sold the team for a mad profit...)

Steveio* 07-13-2009 12:18 AM

Did anybody actually read the article? Or did they all just bash the OP.

HockeyThoughts 07-13-2009 12:27 AM

I understand you're an affiliate of HFBoards but you're articles are wildly unpopular around these parts and I really cannot recall anyone posting how they enjoy reading them.

Would it be too much to ask for you to stop posting them?

Etienne 07-13-2009 12:37 AM

Wow, do people really think Gainey panicked and spent over 100 millions dollars in contracts just to keep his job?

First of all, how can anyone think losing his job could scare the man is beyond me. ->Read this if you're among those who do <- He obviously cares a great deal about the team, but he's been in the business long enough to know that getting fired is bound to happen and it certainly won't be the worst news he's had, not even close.

Then, the reasons behind this summer's spending spree. The Habs needed a new core. One of the team's flaw last year was that half the team was below 26 years old and the other half over 33. Markov, Kostopoulos and Tanguay were the only 3 guys in their prime (which is 26-32 according to most) while everyone else was either still growing or on the decline. When you don't have superstars like Crosby or Malkin to pick up the slack, it hurts big time. Gomez, Gionta and Cammalleri might be small and overpaid, but at least they're still gonna be at their best for a few years as the young guys keep developing.

Which is kinda why he hired Martin. His style is boring and despite the Sens being a contender for years, he's never been in the finals. But he's an excellent teacher for young players and a real Xs and Os kind of guy. Which is also exactly what a team with a lot of new players need to have.

The Habs wont be a contender next season. As good as Martin is, team chemistry usually takes a long time to find and a lot of young guys are in key positions, especially Carey Price. I don't think Gainey's stupid enough to believe the Habs have a legit shot at the Cup in 09-10 either. But there's room for a lot of improvement coming from the inside over the next few seasons. Gainey basically replaced his 5 years plan with another one, only this time the Habs have a solid group of prospects to fill the holes with. Will it work? Who knows. Certainly not those idiots at THN or the Reporters who take themselves waaaaay too seriously...

In any cases, I'm one of the Habs fan eagerly waiting of the puck drop. I absolutely have no idea how the Habs will fare next season, but it's a safe bet that they can't be worst than during the 2nd half of last season. And unless the lightning strikes twice, the boys will be reasonably healthy this time around if they make the playoffs.

Tender Rip 07-13-2009 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arjun (Post 20402894)
I understand you're an affiliate of HFBoards but you're articles are wildly unpopular around these parts and I really cannot recall anyone posting how they enjoy reading them.

Would it be too much to ask for you to stop posting them?

Good post.
I would also like to know how much one has to pay the site owners to be able to spam the boards with articles no-one appreciates.
Given HF's substantial readership base I'm sure there has to be a viable business idea there somewhere. Perhaps something to do with truly out there pay-site porn and referrals credits or something.

HockeyThoughts 07-13-2009 01:27 AM

To add to what Etienne stated above, while Montreal 08/09 was considered a Cup contender last season, as we all saw, they clearly weren't. Furthermore the most important players -- the "core" was aging (Koivu(34), Kovalev(36), Lang(38), Schneider(40), Brisebois(38)) or not performing up to expectations (Komisarek, Tanguay). Gainey took this opportunity to instead of dragging on a perennial playoff disappointment, to blow it up and try again with a different core. Adding 4 guys with cup rings (Gomez, Gionta, Gill, Moen) and 2 former 40G scorers usually isn't considered a bad starting block to success is it?

While I'm not a fan with many of the acquisitions that Gainey has made, you must applaud him for being proactive and if anything a little brave. Most GM's in this league would rather appease the fans and the general public, re-sign the fan favourites, make a smaller acquisiton and continue with mediocrity. Gainey took the exact opposite route..Now lets see how that work's out for him in the next few years.

Miller Time 07-13-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arjun (Post 20403184)
To add to what Etienne stated above, while Montreal 08/09 was considered a Cup contender last season, as we all saw, they clearly weren't. Furthermore the most important players -- the "core" was aging (Koivu(34), Kovalev(36), Lang(38), Schneider(40), Brisebois(38)) or not performing up to expectations (Komisarek, Tanguay). Gainey took this opportunity to instead of dragging on a perennial playoff disappointment, to blow it up and try again with a different core. Adding 4 guys with cup rings (Gomez, Gionta, Gill, Moen) and 2 former 40G scorers usually isn't considered a bad starting block to success is it?

While I'm not a fan with many of the acquisitions that Gainey has made, you must applaud him for being proactive and if anything a little brave. Most GM's in this league would rather appease the fans and the general public, re-sign the fan favourites, make a smaller acquisiton and continue with mediocrity. Gainey took the exact opposite route..Now lets see how that work's out for him in the next few years.

you are missing one important thing...

gainey is the one responsible for assembling that "aging and underperforming" core.
in the process he let go of some pretty talented young-youngish assets for absolutely nothing (Souray, Ribeiro, Ryder, Streit), lost 2 valuable young assets to waiver blunders (hainsey, beauchemin), and as a result for all of his work, got to watch the bulk of the talent he had presided over walk away for nothing (kovalev, koivu, komisarek, tanguay, lang, schneider...) AND trade away 2 young assets for one of the replacements.

all in all, the team may well be better this coming season, but looking at what he had and what he's done with it, it's pretty hard to feel any confidence about his run as GM for the habs.


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