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Quik 09-20-2009 10:27 PM

Do Leafs already have linemate for Kessel?
 
Didn't see anything posted here, so here it is:

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Matt Stajan proved adequate as a play-making centre last season, leading the Leafs in assists with 40 [Savard had 63 with the Bruins]. But, that number likely represents the high end for Stajan, whose durability is more impressive than his offensive skill. Mikhail Grabovski showed he can be a dynamic talent, but he doesnít have the patience and calmness required to abet a speedy winger. John Mitchellís numbers improved with added responsibility toward the end of the season, but no person will credibly speak of Mitchell and Savard in the same sentence. Tyler Bozak is reputed by many scouts to possess the ice vision and composure that may ultimately mesh with a scoring line-mate, but he is a complete unknown at the NHL level.

So, where does the hockey club turn to avail itself of Kesselís burning speed and ability to find open areas on the ice? The answer, though unconventional, may be found in the traffic jam on the blue line, where the Leafsí indisputably best playmaker wears No. 15.

Thatís right, Tomas Kaberle.

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Is it just me, or has he seemed to push this idea for the past few seasons? I get where he's coming from, but our team is much better off with Kaberle on the point. White is a solid, but not spectacular PMD, and MVR is one hit away from not knowing what decade he's in.

TimeZone 09-20-2009 10:31 PM

Oh no. Is he bashing the leafs again? I dont even bother reading his blogs anymore.

Slapshot17 09-20-2009 10:35 PM

One could say he's gone off the deep end, but I think it's too late for that already.

Has Berger ever played a game of hockey in his life?

iPunch 09-20-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeZone (Post 21194992)
Oh no. Is he bashing the leafs again? I dont even bother reading his blogs anymore.

Me either, I try to have as little Berger in my life as possible.

GordieHoweHatTrick 09-20-2009 10:35 PM

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Matt Stajan proved adequate as a play-making centre last season, leading the Leafs in assists with 40 [Savard had 63 with the Bruins]. But, that number likely represents the high end for Stajan, whose durability is more impressive than his offensive skill. Mikhail Grabovski showed he can be a dynamic talent, but he doesnít have the patience and calmness required to abet a speedy winger. John Mitchellís numbers improved with added responsibility toward the end of the season, but no person will credibly speak of Mitchell and Savard in the same sentence. Tyler Bozak is reputed by many scouts to possess the ice vision and composure that may ultimately mesh with a scoring line-mate, but he is a complete unknown at the NHL level.
Berger unintentionally admitted his lack of credibility in his profession...

grind your soul 09-20-2009 10:37 PM

I've often thought about putting Kaberle at forward

But he's a lifelong d-man, and to expect him to just play forward and be as great a playmaker as he is on the blueline would be stupid

Not to mention we'd then be losing our number one offensive blueliner

dougy 09-20-2009 10:42 PM

kaberle will get a ton of assists feeding kessel

Saul 09-20-2009 10:47 PM

Stajan, Mitchell, Hagman for now.

Kadri, Bozak in the future.

Blake, Hanson, Kulemin, Grabovski, Poni as possible candidates for 3rd line-mate position.

teleman 09-20-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slapshot17 (Post 21195043)
Has Berger ever played a game of hockey in his life?

He wanted to but nobody would pick him even for ball hockey. I'll bet his wii breaks down when he puts in any hockey game.

facey 09-20-2009 10:49 PM

i don't think he is suggesting putting kaberle up front. If he is he should lose his job.

I also fail to see his argument why stajan does not complement kessel. Berger makes a novice argument regarding stajan (40 is his ceiling... why?).

Savard had 63...w/kessel
that street has two lanes; if savard helped kessel's goal total, kessel helped savards assit total.

stajan's #'s could improve drastically if he's given the chance to suit up next to kessel... and is our first option IMO

if he doesn't work out, try mitchell, try bozak, wait for kadri...

Evileye 09-20-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dougy (Post 21195140)
kaberle will get a ton of assists feeding kessel

...from his natural position of D.

I expect a lot of plays like the Kaberle to Stajan goal the other night.

Suntouchable13 09-20-2009 10:51 PM

On the PP I see Tomas and Phil as a deadly combo. But I do think that Matt Stajan can flourish with having Kessel as his winger. He can easily top his last season's assist totals if Kessel produces.

iPunch 09-20-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dougy (Post 21195140)
kaberle will get a ton of assists feeding kessel

This. Boston fans may say "You don't have a Savard on your team" and they'd be right. But, they don't have anyone remotely close to Kaberle on defense with his passing skills.

Expect some flashy breakaway goals from Phil, delivered by a Mr. Tomas Kaberle.

Salvage21 09-20-2009 10:59 PM

How has Jason Allison looked? He was a great talent and natural play maker. If he still has anything left in the tank.. he could probably be hold that spot until Kadri is ready. Again, I haven't seen him play this preseason.. but it's just food for thought.

robdicks 09-20-2009 11:08 PM

hmm... interesting article i guess.. havent heard the "make kaberle a forward" argument in a while. trading one of our d-men for a playmaking centre would probably be the more logical decision of we need one that badly

Deebo 09-20-2009 11:20 PM

Anyone who thinks Kaberle should play forward is stupid.

Deebo 09-20-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by facey (Post 21195256)
i don't think he is suggesting putting kaberle up front. If he is he should lose his job.

He definitely is, the next paragraph starts:

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After more than a decade as the smartest puck-moving defenseman on the Leafs, Kaberle might be the perfect compliment at centre-ice for a potent, energetic winger with a deft scoring touch.

smoke meat pete* 09-21-2009 12:44 AM

Brutal! Suggest this to Kaberle and he won't just waive his NTC, he'll demand to be traded.

Stephen 09-21-2009 12:51 AM

Definitely a big no for me. Kaberle handles the puck from a QB type position with lots of time and outlet options. He's not really the guy to actually lead the rush.

HockeyThoughts 09-21-2009 01:04 AM

I can't tell is he joking? Or am I misunderstanding the article.

Is he advising Ron Wilson, to convert 31 year old Tomas Kaberle, a top 20 defenseman in the league into a forward?

What is this NHL 10? This guys a ****ing idiot.

Leaf Rocket 09-21-2009 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Arjun (Post 21196649)
I can't tell is he joking? Or am I misunderstanding the article.

Is he advising Ron Wilson, to convert 31 year old Tomas Kaberle, a top 20 defenseman in the league into a forward?

What is this NHL 10? This guys a ****ing idiot.

what he said.

Trigger96 09-21-2009 01:11 AM

lmao...

Kaberle has pretty much already made his career on feeding players with "burning speed and ability to find open areas on the ice." What makes him think Kaberle can do that better on forward?

...Berger is such a tool.

seanlinden 09-21-2009 07:11 AM

Berger is an idiot... anyone who has ever played hockey knows that switching from defence to forward is incredibly different unless you've done it consistently from a young age. Kaberle has never played forward, and most likely doesn't have the head to. He'll provide good outlet passes from the blueline, but we still need a playmaking centre.

FlareKnight 09-21-2009 07:34 AM

I swear the Kessel move has given that guy enough to keep writing stupid things about fo a long time. Oh well better than him writing just to call Leaf fans idiots. Obviously Kaberle will be good at setting Kessel up from the defence. He's done that fine all this time, switching him up to winger now makes no sense.

leafs123 09-21-2009 07:38 AM

even when this team becomes competitive, berger will find a way to criticize and rip the leafs, either by saying burke didnt do a good job with the cap, or the leafs should have continued tanking to get the young and cheap talent they needed


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