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Systemfel 09-25-2009 11:48 AM

SML Finns vs. SEL Finns vs. KHL Finns
 
For fun. Which team would win?

SM-Liiga Finns
S. Kapanen - Pirnes - Hentunen
Rita - Viuhkola - Kuusela
Anttila - Sahlstedt - Kiiskinen

Söderholm - Seikola
Saravo - Mäntylä
Niemi - Aalto

Riksman/Vehanen/whoever

Elitserien Finns
Pihlström - Voutilainen - Kallio
Laine - Hahl - Pärssinen
Tuokko - Pakaslahti - Somervuori

Lehtonen - Mäntymaa
Niskala - Puistola
Niinimaa - Laatikainen

Norrena

KHL Finns
Pesonen - N. Kapanen - Immonen
Peltonen - Makkonen - Hyvönen
Koivisto - Kontiola - Komarov

Luoma - Kukkonen
Väänänen - Jokela
Boumedienne

Rämö

zecke26 09-25-2009 12:51 PM

mattihp will surely say: SEL finns lose because of having niinimaa in the lineup. ;)

Tony Piscotta 09-25-2009 02:59 PM

Neat question
 
Would also be interesting to see an NHL Finns team. Strictly because Norrena would be the goalie, I'd go with the SEL team. But does anyone else see the SM-Liiga team beating either of the other two?

No1Joker 09-25-2009 03:11 PM

KHL team wins this one, SM-Liiga team might beat SEL team, probably not because SEL has better defence. Very good question, respect :)

Tony Piscotta 09-25-2009 03:18 PM

An interesting question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Systemfel (Post 21265587)
For fun. Which team would win?

SM-Liiga Finns
S. Kapanen - Pirnes - Hentunen
Rita - Viuhkola - Kuusela
Anttila - Sahlstedt - Kiiskinen

Söderholm - Seikola
Saravo - Mäntylä
Niemi - Aalto

Riksman/Vehanen/whoever

Elitserien Finns
Pihlström - Voutilainen - Kallio
Laine - Hahl - Pärssinen
Tuokko - Pakaslahti - Somervuori

Lehtonen - Mäntymaa
Niskala - Puistola
Niinimaa - Laatikainen

Norrena

KHL Finns
Pesonen - N. Kapanen - Immonen
Peltonen - Makkonen - Hyvönen
Koivisto - Kontiola - Komarov

Luoma - Kukkonen
Väänänen - Jokela
Boumedienne

Rämö

How many of these players will have the opportunity to play for Team Finland in the Olympics?

No1Joker 09-25-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyVP (Post 21268801)
How many of these players will have the opportunity to play for Team Finland in the Olympics?

S.Kapanen, Hentunen, Pihlström, Hahl, Lehtonen, N.Kapanen, Peltonen, Pesonen, Komarov, Kukkonen, Väänänen i think they have chance if they do well in their own leagues to make it for Vancouver. I know there might be couple questionmarks in my list but i really do think they might have chances if they play very well.

Tony Piscotta 09-25-2009 03:27 PM

Finns in Switzerland
 
Your three teams got me curious as I know that some of the Finnish players had played in Switzerland through the years - was surprised to find only ten of them at this time. Forwards Tommi Santala, Niki Siren, and Tony Salmelainen, defensemen Petteri Nummelin and Kari Haakana, and goalies Ari Sulander and Jussi Markkanen are in the A league with three other forwards in the B league - Pasi Tuominen, Patrik Westerback and Antti Ruotsalainen.

Where would these players fit among the hierarchy of Finnish players and has the number of Finns in Switzerland increased or decreased in recent years? Why is that?

Tony Piscotta 09-25-2009 04:06 PM

NHL Team
 
Seems a bit thin on D but goaltending would seem superior to all others. Hard to see so many of the forwards mentioned above fitting into Team Finland if all of the guys here accept the invitation to play for the national team.

No particular order

Selanne-S. Koivu - O. Jokinen
Hagman - Lehtinen - J. Jokinen
A. Miettinen - M. Koivu - V. Filppula
S. Bergenheim - T. Ruutu - L. Korpikoski

Remaining F's - Ville Leino, Ilkka Pikkarainen, Oskar Osala, Mika Pyorala, Petteri Nokelainen, Jarkko Ruutu

D

Lydman-Timonen
Salo - Pitkanen
Koistinen-Lepisto
Salmela

G
Kiprusoff, Backstrom, Lehtonen

Others available - Tuukka Rask, Pekka Rinne, Antero Niittymaki, Vesa Toskala

Please feel free to move guys either in or out of this team as you see fit. I imagine the goalies will cause the most debate on here.

raystorm 09-26-2009 05:35 AM

KHL team might win. SM-liiga team comes second and SEL team comes third. Sel team has good defence but i stille trust Sm-liiga team. Of course coach is one very important choice. That might chance the situation.

gib 09-26-2009 09:42 AM

Systemfel you seem to have great knowledge about finnish players. Many of them have played in sweden at some point of their career which makes it easier, but still impressive.

1. KHL
2. SEL
3. FEL


KHL is bit ahed of SEL and FEL. I think SEL comes second, but Pärssinen needs to be healty.

Personally I would make some chances to FEL team. 1st line players are locks, but at least Antti Laaksonen, Jori Lehterä, Antti Erkinjuntti and Juha-Matti Aaltonen would battle for 2nd and 3rd line jobs.

Finnpin 09-27-2009 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyVP (Post 21269456)
Selanne-S. Koivu - O. Jokinen
Hagman - Lehtinen - J. Jokinen
A. Miettinen - M. Koivu - V. Filppula
S. Bergenheim - T. Ruutu - L. Korpikoski

Remaining F's - Ville Leino, Ilkka Pikkarainen, Oskar Osala, Mika Pyorala, Petteri Nokelainen, Jarkko Ruutu

D

Lydman-Timonen
Salo - Pitkanen
Koistinen-Lepisto
Salmela

G
Kiprusoff, Backstrom, Lehtonen

I would go:

Lehtinen -S. Koivu - Selänne
Hagman - M. Koivu - O. Jokinen
Miettinen/Leino - Filppula - T. Ruutu
Bergenheim - J. Jokinen - J. Ruutu

D

Lydman-Timonen
Salo - Pitkanen
Salmela - Lepisto
Koistinen

G
Kiprusoff, Backstrom, Rinne

Ciccarelli 09-27-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gib (Post 21278168)
Systemfel you seem to have great knowledge about finnish players. Many of them have played in sweden at some point of their career which makes it easier, but still impressive.

Well he got half of the "SML Finns" right in that line-up...

No1Joker 09-28-2009 07:27 AM

Just so everybody knows, M.Koivu & T.Ruutu are LOCKS for number 1 line @ Vancouver.

eme 10-05-2009 06:52 AM

I would say that the KHL team would win, while SEL and FEL teams would battle it out for the second spot.

I might change some players in the line-up though. Anttila really isn't that good yet, and there are better powerforwards in the league, such as Jussi Pesonen or Arttu Luttinen. Also Jani Rita is not as good a player than three years ago, so i would change him to Haataja, the best goal scorer from last season still playing in the league.

Söderholm has not been as great in this season as expected, so there would be better choices instead, such as Tomi Pettinen. With these changes I'd say the FEL team would win by a small margin.

Korkki 10-08-2009 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciccarelli (Post 21292568)
Well he got half of the "SML Finns" right in that line-up...

I agree.

Jori Lehterä has been a lot better in SM-liiga this season than any of those centers you have for the Finnish team. Marko Anttila is literally a huge bust and Jani Rita is a bit smaller bust.

EDIT: My team (based on this season performances this far)
Kapanen - Sahlstedt - Kiiskinen
Kivenmäki - Lehterä - Kuusela
Pesonen - Pirnes - Luttinen (would be Pesonen - Viuhkola - Haataja if not injuries)

Seikola - Pettinen
Saravo - Aalto
Levokari - Tikkanen


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