ATD12 Jim Robson Quarterfinals: 4 Toronto Toros vs. 5 St. Georges Garaga
Coach: Tommy Gorman
Assistant Coach/Trainer:Lloyd Percival
Bert Olmstead - Jean Beliveau(C) - Andy Bathgate
Marc Tardiff - Ulf Nilsson -Bill Mosienko
Donnie Marshall - Walt Tkaczuk - Murray Balfour
Ab McDonald - Fred Stanfield - Vic Stasiuk
Allan Stanley - Al Macinnis(A)
Elmer "Moose" Vasko - Fern Flaman(A)
Lars-Erik Sjoberg - Doug Barkley
Bert Olmstead-Jean Beliveau(C)-Andy Bathgate
Lars-Erik Sjoberg-Al MacInnes
Marc Tardiff-Ulf Nilsson -Bill Mosienko
Fred Stanfield-Doug Barkley
Donnie Marshall-Walt Tkaczuk
Elmer "Moose" Vasko-Fern Flaman
Fred Stanfield-Murray Balfour
Allan Stanley- Al Macinnis
F: Nick Mickoski, George Gee, Chico Maki
D: Jack "Tex" Evans, Jim Morrison
G: "Sugar" Jim Henry
GM: Zamboni Mania
Head Coach: Pat Quinn
eg Noble - Nels Stewart - Guy Lafleur
Billy Burch - Jacques Lemaire (A) - Jack Darragh
Kirk Muller (A) - Marty Walsh - Jack Marshall
Georges Mantha - Glen Skov - Rejean Houle
Garry Unger, Brian Skrudland
King Clancy (C) - Sylvio Mantha
Neil Colville - Dollard St. Laurent
Bullet Joe Simpson - Ed Van Impe
F: Shorty Green, Alex Shibicky, Dave Schultz, Olivier Seibert, Jack Marks
D: Fred Lake
Zamboni, good luck in the series. Two great teams. Too bad one of us has to lose.
When I first looked at your team, I was not impressed but the more I studied it, the more my appreciation grew. You have a lot of early era players. I usually have the oldest era team in this ATD matchups but certainly not this time. I had to do a little research on some of your players & came away quite impressed.
I still think I have the edge though. A few brief comments.
I think I have the definite edge here. Beliveau is definitely the best player on either line and is a far better centre than Stewart. Noble is good but Olmstead is better on LW. Lafleur is better on RW but it is not a big gap. I am somewhat uneasy about the chemistry of your first line wheras mine is pretty good. Olmstead & Beliveau had their best years playing together. All 3 of my guys were great passers and Beliveau & Bathgate were great goal scorers.
A bit of a tossup. My line has incredible speed & skill. You have a great 2 way centre in Lemaire and a couple of good scoring wingers.
IMO, my third line is one of the best 2 way lines in the draft and could be employed as a great checking line. Your third line looks like another scoring line that may not be that good defensively.
Big fan of your centre. Skov was a decent scorer early in his career & a great defensive player throughout his career. Stanfield is a good centre also & a great PP pont man. We both have decent 2 way wingers.
We both have a great top 4. Top pairing is equal but I think my second pairing is a little stronger. I say this even though I really like Colville & St.laurent
You have an slight edge here with Broda who was reknowned for his playoff performances. Lumley though is incredibily under-rated. Won an early cup but spent most of the rest of his career playing on terrible teams. Still made a couple of 1st AS teams though.
I'm not going to research every single roster but I think there are at least 10 teams with 5 players older than Mosienko. Your current opponent has 13 players older than him. (yes, you have acknowledged this)
This is in no way a criticism, but I just wanted to point out that there are definitely older teams.
With regard to Bathgate on my first line, how can a line be too good? I have got two players on the same line who where both great playmakers & scorers. I think this line will really confound the opposition. When Bathgate & Beliveau have the puck they could shoot or they could pass. What will the opposition defence do--play the pass or the shot. Its not as if I don't have a great playmaker on the second line. Ulf Nilsson was one of the best ever.
Thanks for the info on Walsh & Marshall. Hard to get good info on these guys and I don't always have great confidence in the LOH site.
Hope Zamboni comes on to comment soon. He hasn't sighned in since 11/16.
Despite glowing reviews in the ass. thread, I have once again assembled a below average team. :( But at least this time it's not in the basement.
St. George's Garaga wins the first round best-of-seven series 4-3.
1. Jean Beliveau
2. Turk Broda
3. Guy Lafleur
Not surprised but somewhat disappointed. Curious as to what changed peoples mind on these 2 teams as there was very little debate.
Congrats Zamboni. you put together a nice team.
I think I might take a break from these things. I have been in 6 & went out in the first round 3X and the second round 2X. the only time I got past the 2nd round, I went all the way. C'est La vie.
I'm a HUGE King Clancy fan. I think he's terribly underrated because I believe he is such a complete defenseman. Great offensive finishes but an extremely underrated defensive touch and physicality. That and Turk Broda in the playoffs. The teams were so very close, but when I saw Broda vs. Lumley, that more or less sealed it for me.
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