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andimgone 12-03-2009 02:51 AM

Flames @ Coyotes (12/03/09)
 
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Team Comparison
 Phoenix Calgary
Record:
15-11-1 - 31 PTS 17-6-3 - 37 PTS
Conference:
7th 3rd
Division:
3rd 1st
Home:
8-5-0 7-5-0
Away:
7-6-1 10-1-3
GF Avg.:
2.44 (T 25th)3.12 (T 5th)
GA Avg.:
2.41 (5th)2.46 (6th)
PP %:
20.0 (T 17th) 21.6 (T 9th)
PK %:
81.9 (11th)79.4 (17th)
Last 10 GP:
5-4-1 6-2-2


Rosters
Phoenix
Coyotes
 
Calgary
Flames
ForwardsDefense  Forwards Defense
Paul Bissonnette Adrian Aucoin   Rene Bourque Jay Bouwmeester
Mikkel Boedker Sami Lepisto   Dustin Boyd Mark Giordano
Shane Doan Zbynek Michalek   Craig Conroy Aaron Johnson
Vernon Fiddler David Schlemko   Nigel Dawes Staffan Kronwall
Martin Hanzal Jim Vandermeer   Curtis Glencross Adam Pardy
Lauri Korpikoski Keith Yandle   Jarome Iginla Dion Phaneuf
Robert Lang   Olli Jokinen Robyn Regehr
Matthew Lombardi   Daymond Langkow
Petr Prucha   Brian McGrattan
Taylor Pyatt   David Moss
Scottie Upshall Goalies   Eric Nystrom Goalies
Radim Vrbata Ilya Bryzgalov   Brandon Prust Miikka Kiprusoff
Daniel Winnik Jason LaBarbera   Fredrik Sjostrom Curtis McElhinney


Injured
Phoenix Player Status Calgary Player Status
Ed Jovanovski Questionable   Cory Sarich Questionable
Peter Mueller Day-to-Day    
Kurt Sauer Injured Reserve    

YouJustGotPavelskied 12-03-2009 05:00 AM

Bryzy playing tonight?

FutureGM97 12-03-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by YouJustGotPavelskied (Post 22442228)
Bryzy playing tonight?

I would say so considering the long layoff and the fact there are no back to backs in the very near future. Hopefully fare a bit better than when the boys played in Calgary but the Flames are an awesome road team...I think they have only lost once on the road the whole season.

Colt45Blast 12-03-2009 10:17 AM

Let's see if the Yotes can give them road loss #2. Amazing we only loss by 1 to this team in our first meeting in what should have been a tie at the end of the 3rd.
I'm more worried by what JayBo Jerome Kipper and Dion will do to this team when hot than the others, if we can shut then down then we have a chance.
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Krieger99 12-03-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureGM97 (Post 22442757)
I would say so considering the long layoff and the fact there are no back to backs in the very near future. Hopefully fare a bit better than when the boys played in Calgary but the Flames are an awesome road team...I think they have only lost once on the road the whole season.

Only one regulation loss, but they have OT/SO losses as well. Overall is 10-1-3 on the road. The Flames' last game in Nashville was their first 60 minute effort so far this season. It should be interesting to see if they bring the same game again tonight. If they do, Bryzgalov will have to stand on his head. If they don't, then who knows what will happen. Any team can win on any night (as long as they're playing, of course).

OMA 12-03-2009 10:58 AM

Hopefully we get a good game tonight... I'm hoping that Calgary doesn't look past this game to their showdown with SJ on Saturday night. If they do, I'd expect a very respectable Phoenix squad to get the W tonight. Calgary is getting Bourque back tonight and he's expected to suit up between Iginla (NHL's November player of the month) and Jokinen (15 pts in his last 13 games). Coyotes need to find a way to stop that line. They also need to find a way to get a lot of traffic in front of Kipper who has been red hot as of late (8-2-2 record in November with a .957sv and a 1.82GAA)

OT: What in the world has happened to Peter Mueller? I watched the guy rip it up in the WHL and he looked like gold in his rookie year. Was it Gretzky's coaching or something else that has stagnated his development? He looked lost when I watched that 'Yotes/Flames game last week.

krepitch 12-03-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OMA (Post 22443956)
Hopefully we get a good game tonight... I'm hoping that Calgary doesn't look past this game to their showdown with SJ on Saturday night. If they do, I'd expect a very respectable Phoenix squad to get the W tonight. Calgary is getting Bourque back tonight and he's expected to suit up between Iginla (NHL's November player of the month) and Jokinen (15 pts in his last 13 games). Coyotes need to find a way to stop that line. They also need to find a way to get a lot of traffic in front of Kipper who has been red hot as of late (8-2-2 record in November with a .957sv and a 1.82GAA)

OT: What in the world has happened to Peter Mueller? I watched the guy rip it up in the WHL and he looked like gold in his rookie year. Was it Gretzky's coaching or something else that has stagnated his development? He looked lost when I watched that 'Yotes/Flames game last week.

I'm hoping for a good game, too. I think we'll get it if Phoenix plays as well as they did in their last home game and Calgary keeps up its tremendous play on the road. That Iginla/Bourque/Jokinen line will be tough, but I don't think they'll be able to light us up like they would have in past years. Should be fun to watch.

No local broadcast, but it looks like it will be on Center Ice.

RR 12-03-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouJustGotPavelskied (Post 22442228)
Bryzy playing tonight?

From Coyotes.com:

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Ilya Bryzgalov is expected to make his eighth straight start in goal.
http://coyotes.nhl.com/club/preview.htm?id=2009020406&navid=DL|PHX|home

lockstock 12-03-2009 01:28 PM

Thanks for the great GDTs, JT!
Everytime I try to find a game that's been lost on the VS network, I go to their GDTs on here to find the channel and get frustrated because they usually don't have all that info.

Hoping for the shutout, but I think it'll be 3-1 Yotes

wpgyotes 12-03-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMA (Post 22443956)
OT: What in the world has happened to Peter Mueller? I watched the guy rip it up in the WHL and he looked like gold in his rookie year. Was it Gretzky's coaching or something else that has stagnated his development? He looked lost when I watched that 'Yotes/Flames game last week.

We're asking ourselves that very same question and not coming up with an answer. He had a head injury in his sophomore season and looks to be deeply-entrenched in coach Tippett's dog house so far this campaign. He doesn't look confident with the puck, poor decisions, etc.

The swagger he had that gave him success on the world stage in junior and in his rookie campaign against NHL-calibre players appears to have evaporated.

knowsthegame 12-03-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wpgyotes (Post 22448156)
We're asking ourselves that very same question and not coming up with an answer. He had a head injury in his sophomore season and looks to be deeply-entrenched in coach Tippett's dog house so far this campaign. He doesn't look confident with the puck, poor decisions, etc.

The swagger he had that gave him success on the world stage in junior and in his rookie campaign against NHL-calibre players appears to have evaporated.

As coach Tippet said - Mueller is waiting for someone to give him the puck, but sometimes you have to go get it yourself.

Mueller has a great shot, but he is reluctant to shoot, has size, but won't use it to give or especially take a hit to make a play or get the puck.
It's not about figuring things out - it's about the willingness to compete.

GalenYote 12-03-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by knowsthegame (Post 22450344)
As coach Tippet said - Mueller is waiting for someone to give him the puck, but sometimes you have to go get it yourself.

Mueller has a great shot, but he is reluctant to shoot, has size, but won't use it to give or especially take a hit to make a play or get the puck.
It's not about figuring things out - it's about the willingness to compete.

Sorry for the movie reference but,

Petter Muller is acting like Ferris Bueller. He is skipping out on his responsibilities and avoiding confrontations. He is not doing anything really constructive or really destructive either. He is just out having fun. We need to get him angry like Cameron did and just smash the snot out of somebody. We have seen JovoCop and “Angry Doan”
but we have only seen Ferris Muller. I want to see “Peter Muller’s Tear Off” and hit somebody. I want to see him get angry and pepper a goalie till he cries mercy and the coach pulls him. I would love to see him crash then net with a defender, goalie and puck stuffed inside. To the hell with confidence I want to see him angry and mean. A fight would do nicely. That should get him out of his funk, or at least he shows he is willing to fight for Icetime.

Dolemite 12-03-2009 08:07 PM

Just an FYI. The Vancouver Canucks will be showing this game as the second game of a double header in their PPV game tonight.

Colt45Blast 12-03-2009 08:24 PM

Standing outside of Jobing.com Arena were a high school band is playing and with the gathering crowd the flames fans are outnumbering us 10 to 1.
That is depressing as the band playing Michael Jacksons Thriller.
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rt 12-03-2009 08:34 PM

I would love some scouting reports from those able to watch. I'm especially interested in if and how Mueller, Pyatt, Korpikoski, and Bissonnette play. Thanks.

zz 12-03-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArizonaPride (Post 22454813)
Standing outside of Jobing.com Arena were a high school band is playing and with the gathering crowd the flames fans are outnumbering us 10 to 1.

That's pretty much how it was last year, too. So many flames fans, I'm surprised the team doesn't price those as "red" games like the Detroit ones.

Sucks it's not on TV. I understand not showing Saturday games, but on week nights, it's tough. No way I could make it in person.

I love watching Iginla play. He's everything I like about Doan, with twice the skill.

zz 12-03-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 22455169)
I would love some scouting reports from those able to watch. I'm especially interested in if and how Mueller, Pyatt, Korpikoski, and Bissonnette play. Thanks.

Way OT, but... how's the new job?

yakko 12-03-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt (Post 22455169)
I would love some scouting reports from those able to watch. I'm especially interested in if and how Mueller, Pyatt, Korpikoski, and Bissonnette play. Thanks.

If my DVR doesn't betray me, I will be watching later tonight or during the day tomorrow.

Dolemite 12-03-2009 08:42 PM

Coyotes/Flames Preview is up. No Local TV but I'm going to provide Twitter analysis to see if people want it.

http://coyotes.azvibe.com/2009/12/03...lames-preview/

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt (Post 22455169)
I would love some scouting reports from those able to watch. I'm especially interested in if and how Mueller, Pyatt, Korpikoski, and Bissonnette play. Thanks.

Aren't you going to watch the game?

rt 12-03-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zz (Post 22455419)
Way OT, but... how's the new job?

Thanks for asking. No complaints, really. I just finished day four of a fifteen day training period, though, so it's not like I've actually done anything. I've just sat around for nine hours a day watching corporate trainers scramble to waste/fill time in order to justify their existence. Wow, that sounds an awful lot like a complaint, but honestly, it doesn't really bother me. I'm in it for the free school and the health benefits. Beyond that, I don't really care what I do with my day. I'd happily be the bathroom attendant if they asked me.

Mostly I'm just using the time to attempt to beat the casual swearing out of myself. Also, I'm really working on my ability to feign something resembling enthusiasm and cloak my utter indifference. It's a process. It's my first time in a cubical farm.

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Originally Posted by yakko (Post 22455446)
If my DVR doesn't betray me, I will be watching later tonight or during the day tomorrow.

Cool. Thanks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite (Post 22455447)
Aren't you going to watch the game?

It's not on television and I'm a poor. I plan to start going to games on a regular basis after the new year, though.

PhoPhan 12-03-2009 09:01 PM

Don't ever let anyone beat the casual swearing out of you. Ever.

rt 12-03-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoPhan (Post 22456078)
Don't ever let anyone beat the casual swearing out of you. Ever.

I'll say something in an HF/HR appropriate way, here. There is a certain religious faith that dominates the landscape at the University of Phoenix in Arizona. This particular faith is particularly offended by any swearing what so ever. If you look up UoP on wikipedia, and scroll down to the scandals section of the article, you will see what I mean. I encourage you to follow those links, as well.

EDIT: Check that, it's the second to last sentence in the Legal and regulatory actions
section of the article. Follow that link, as I'm not sure you are familiar with that faith in Philly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Phoenix

I find it particularly ironic given that the founder of UoP, John Sterling, is a huge marijuana advocate. Also, he has spent a fortune attempting to clone pets, and is big into "biological immortality". Just doesn't seem to jibe with views of ultra-conservative, die-hard religious types.

yakko 12-03-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt (Post 22456416)
I'll say something in an HF/HR appropriate way, here.

You eventually have to learn to have modes of speaking depending on the audience. I talk to friends at one extreme, coworkers somewhere in the middle and clients at the other extreme. It's tough at first, but at this point for me it is second nature. That might be kind of sad actually :)

SR 12-03-2009 09:45 PM

link to the game, good quality too.

http://www.justin.tv/nhl_live/popout/?publisher_guard=

DouX 12-03-2009 09:54 PM

Yotes look good so far. Keep up the pressure.


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