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Magnus Fulgur 12-11-2009 12:33 PM

(Atlanta) What would it take to get Carter?
 
If Atlanta offered Pavelec, what else would they have to add to get Jeff Carter?

Or, what would be your ideal trade between PHI and ATL with Pavelec as the first piece.

In the end, it might be foolish for Atlanta to trade with a team that could knock them out of a playoff spot if they are improved by the trade...but it could help both teams go up the standings.

Kaktus* 12-11-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxostoma Rufum (Post 22596767)
If Atlanta offered Pavelec, what else would they have to add to get Jeff Carter?

4 1st round picks (at least) but Flyers ar enot trading Carter after 25 average games.

FlyHigh 12-11-2009 12:37 PM

Pavelec and Carter are never going to be in the same trade, Flyers probably won't offer much for Pavelec unless you guys want Coburn back.

six sigma 12-11-2009 12:38 PM

I doubt Carter gets moved, especially if Lavi motivates him to play harder.

Beyond that, how do we know that Pavelec is the guy who will help us win? We need our scorers to score. If anything, who do you want along with Carter for Kovalchuk?:naughty:

Magnus Fulgur 12-11-2009 12:45 PM

How about Richards for Peverley? :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::naughty:

Morinisbear 12-11-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by six sigma (Post 22596872)
I doubt Carter gets moved, especially if Lavi motivates him to play harder.

Beyond that, how do we know that Pavelec is the guy who will help us win? We need our scorers to score. If anything, who do you want along with Carter for Kovalchuk?:naughty:

My thoughts exactly. The only move with Atlanta involving Carter should have Kovalchuk coming back, but that is just a dream...not gonna happen.

Honestly, I think people are making more of the goalie situation in Philly. I dont think that is the problem. We need another scorer, and pressure taken off kids like Giroux and JVR. I was ok with letting the likes of Lupul, Knuble, Upshall, and Umberger go, but maybe it has finally hit us....we need scoring help....a sniper. (plus, we miss Gagne even though we should be used to that by now)

flountown 12-11-2009 12:55 PM

I would love to have Joffrey Lupul back...when he uses it the guy has a nasty nasty shot.

Opus 12-11-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by flountown (Post 22597169)
I would love to have Joffrey Lupul back...when he uses it the guy has a nasty nasty shot.

Since when did Lupul play for Atlanta???

flountown 12-11-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opus (Post 22597197)
Since when did Lupul play for Atlanta???

Just reminiscing...

CharlieGirl 12-11-2009 01:18 PM

I have no idea what a package would look like, but Bogosian would be a good start.

Kambo 12-11-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flountown (Post 22597169)
I would love to have Joffrey Lupul back...when he uses it the guy has a nasty nasty shot.

Me too :naughty:

Valhoun* 12-11-2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Girl (Post 22597512)
I have no idea what a package would look like, but Bogosian would be a good start.

I thought you had kids...

CharlieGirl 12-11-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valhoun (Post 22597573)
I thought you had kids...

:laugh:

Shoulda clarified.... I have no idea what an Atlanta package would look like.. wait, let me try that again.

If Atlanta wants to trade for Jeff Carter, please start the deal with Bogosian.

IrishSniper87 12-11-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Girl (Post 22597727)
:laugh:

Shoulda clarified.... I have no idea what an Atlanta package would look like.. wait, let me try that again.

If Atlanta wants to trade for Jeff Carter, please start the deal with Bogosian.

Zach Bogosian and Rich Peverly for Carter :sarcasm:

or

Bogosian and Kane for Carter :sarcasm:

or

Kovalchuk, Bogosian and Kane for Carter and Coburn :sarcasm::sarcasm:

dbr2 12-11-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Girl (Post 22597727)
:laugh:

Shoulda clarified.... I have no idea what an Atlanta package would look like.. wait, let me try that again.

If Atlanta wants to trade for Jeff Carter, please start the deal with Bogosian.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I never know how you're are going to take Vals, 2 cents on your comments.

I'm waiting for you to have one of those off/bad days where you lose your cool on him..:laugh:

Giroux tha Damaja 12-11-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxostoma Rufum (Post 22596767)
If Atlanta offered Pavelec, what else would they have to add to get Jeff Carter?

Or, what would be your ideal trade between PHI and ATL with Pavelec as the first piece.

In the end, it might be foolish for Atlanta to trade with a team that could knock them out of a playoff spot if they are improved by the trade...but it could help both teams go up the standings.

I think the problem with trying to get Carter right now is that he is the leading scorer on a team that is struggling to score. So any trade that makes sense for Philly is going to have to involve offense coming back and it's not very likely that we can pry Kovalchuk from your grasp so long as there is breath in your bodies, and Rich Peverely isn't someone that is getting traded with the deal he signed. I think the organization wouldn't necessarily mind Ray Emery sticking around for a few years, so Pavelec might not be worth as much to the Flyers as he is to ATL.

It seems to me like that both teams wouldn't be willing to give up what they would have to in order to get what they wanted from the other. I would happily do Carter + for Kovalchuk if we knew we could sign him and make our cap work, but I don't think that is possible (and the Flyers aren't known for their plethora of Russian alumni).

FlyHigh 12-11-2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Girl (Post 22597727)
:laugh:

Shoulda clarified.... I have no idea what an Atlanta package would look like.. wait, let me try that again.

If Atlanta wants to trade for Jeff Carter, please start the deal with Bogosian.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbr2 (Post 22598222)
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I never know how you're are going to take Vals, 2 cents on your comments.

I'm waiting for you to have one of those off/bad days where you lose your cool on him..:laugh:

It's going to be epic when it happens, nice recovery though.

SolidSnakeUS 12-11-2009 05:04 PM

Carter and Coburn for Kovalchuk?

Or Carter and Coburn for Kane and Peverly and maybe a 1st or 2nd.

shamski7 12-11-2009 06:28 PM

thrashers are gonna have to throw in bryan little along with kovalchuck, kane and bogosian.

SolidSnakeUS 12-11-2009 07:14 PM

How about Carter and Coburn for Peverley and Enstrom. Sounds like a good deal.

ELab2 12-11-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS (Post 22602668)
How about Carter and Coburn for Peverley and Enstrom. Sounds like a good deal.

Peverley doesn't have that kind of value. He's been great over the last year and a half. But it's not enough. And his age doesn't thrill me

1 of Little or Kane
1 of Enstrom or Bogosian
picks

SolidSnakeUS 12-11-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELab2 (Post 22603347)
Peverley doesn't have that kind of value. He's been great over the last year and a half. But it's not enough. And his age doesn't thrill me

1 of Little or Kane
1 of Enstrom or Bogosian
picks

The other reason is that Peverley still has an extra 2 or 3 years on his contract. And he's also for very cheap. His age is nothing right now in terms of his current skill and pay.

TheKingPin 12-11-2009 08:16 PM

Id love to trade for a signed Kovy.

Clown Baby* 12-11-2009 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS (Post 22602668)
How about Carter and Coburn for Peverley and Enstrom. Sounds like a good deal.

If you're deaf, maybe.

SolidSnakeUS 12-11-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clown Baby (Post 22604063)
If you're deaf, maybe.

Just throwing ideas out there. But seriously, something needs to be changed.


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