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wondeROY 01-04-2010 10:34 PM

Cage/Visor combo setup
 
How many here have gone from a full cage to these Cage/Visor combo setup? I'm really tempted to try one, I currently use a full cage and I'm not real crazy about it. Are these better then a full cage or do they just fog up like crazy?

Looked at a few of them, here is one example i'm considering. Any rec's on a particular model? What downsides are there?

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/hockeymonkey_2087_78529761

kickassdrummer 01-04-2010 10:58 PM

Funny timing, as I'm considering this now as well. Looking forward to hearing opinions of the knowledgeable!

CanadaBacon 01-04-2010 11:12 PM

If i had to make this choice, i would stick with a birdie. Even a fishbowl would be better then that thing.

wondeROY 01-04-2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23009857)
If i had to make this choice, i would stick with a birdie. Even a fishbowl would be better then that thing.

Please elaborate, have you used one? What dont you like about them?

CanadaBacon 01-04-2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wondeROY (Post 23010016)
Please elaborate, have you used one? What dont you like about them?

They dont really make sense to me, why half birdie, half fishbowl?

I just dont get the point of them.

Khabby 01-04-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23010076)
They dont really make sense to me, why half birdie, half fishbowl?

I just dont get the point of them.

I don't use one, but the reason I see is that It will give you more vision ie. less bars in your eye/face while still providing the same protection as a cage. Only down side would be that it could fog up

CanadaBacon 01-04-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khabby (Post 23010214)
I don't use one, but the reason I see is that It will give you more vision ie. less bars in your eye/face while still providing the same protection as a cage. Only down side would be that it could fog up

Thats why they have a fishbowl though no? better vision, protection of a bridie.


Do birdies hinder your vision that much? Serious question, havnt worn one in like 16 years or some such.

wondeROY 01-04-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23010076)
They dont really make sense to me, why half birdie, half fishbowl?

I just dont get the point of them.

Really? Is it not that obvious??? Cages suck to see through, visors offer much better vision and the lower cage part offers mouth protection like a cage would. My question is to anyone thats used one, is there a downside, like excessive fog? You've never used one, so i'll consider your input null and void. Thanks anyways.

CanadaBacon 01-04-2010 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wondeROY (Post 23010288)
Really? Is it not that obvious??? Cages suck to see through, visors offer much better vision and the lower cage part offers mouth protection like a cage would. My question is to anyone thats used one, is there a downside, like excessive fog? You've never used one, so i'll consider your input null and void. Thanks anyways.

Wouldnt really be null and void, more like moot. :naughty:

Tojo 01-05-2010 12:04 AM

Been using the itech version for over a year now, and I really like it. I have never personally had it fog up like some of my friends visors. I only play in rec leagues but I play 2-3 times a week and its held up well for the time I've used it, a little heavy but does the job well.

apteno 01-06-2010 01:54 PM

Was just going to make a thread about this. Dont really like my full cage and wanted a combo since im going to be starting puck inline then probably ice in the future. Just cant afford any facial damage with my current insurance situtation.

pfloyd75 01-06-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23010258)
Do birdies hinder your vision that much?

No. Not for me at least. Its like wearing glasses or sunglasses- you don't even notice them after a bit.

Jarick 01-06-2010 02:52 PM

Try a 9500 cage, it's like wearing nothing at all.

Oh yeah, and I had an Oakley half and half...couldn't see a damn thing after two shifts because it fogged up so bad. Same with the Itech Concept II Deluxe fishbowl...couldn't see a thing.

jmacie3 01-06-2010 10:46 PM

I just started taking beginner classes and I was skating without a cage for a while because we only ran drills and stuff but once we started playing rat hockey, I put on a cage and I really hate it. Do you guys think something like the bauer x100 will be enough or do I need to go with something like the recon?

doobie604 01-07-2010 12:01 AM

get use to the cage, might take a while but it's the best solution if you're scared of large dental bills.

densetsu 01-07-2010 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23010258)
Thats why they have a fishbowl though no? better vision, protection of a bridie.

Fog, distortion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaBacon (Post 23010258)
Do birdies hinder your vision that much? Serious question, havnt worn one in like 16 years or some such.

If you're focusing on the game, you don't notice the bars at all. Everybody's different, but cages never really bothered me.

CanadaBacon 01-07-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by densetsu (Post 23055042)
Fog, distortion.



If you're focusing on the game, you don't notice the bars at all. Everybody's different, but cages never really bothered me.

good enough.

Is fog that big of a deal? Most of the plastic wearers here say that you just need to look after it and use a good anti-fogger.

Hockeyfan68 01-07-2010 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by densetsu (Post 23055042)
Fog, distortion.



If you're focusing on the game, you don't notice the bars at all. Everybody's different, but cages never really bothered me.

Cages ... drove ...me .... insane!

Jarick 01-07-2010 10:19 AM

There's a huge difference between the old black thick bar cages and the nice thin light gray cages. You'd have to be trying to stare at the bars to notice them.

WangMustGo 01-10-2010 05:48 PM

So what is the overall opinion on them? I was looking into buying a new helmet, I thought these looked good but I'm not sure if I should buy one. Any specific ones to buy/avoid?

Ani simov mal 01-10-2010 08:33 PM

@ WondeROY

I don't see the point of buying a fishbowl or that half fishbowl. All you're gonna get is fog and nothing more beneficial then what you have with your cage. The vision thing is just in your head man. Do the bars REALLY bother you in game that you absolutely can't see anything? Stick with your true vision cage. I'll be honest with you though. The only reason I always buy a ccm 480 cage on every helmet I get is because I like how it looks. I don't like the true vision cage because it's ugly as hell and it rusts up, BUT that still doesn’t affect how well I or others that I have played with can see through it.

@ 4morecups

I'd get a Bauer 4500. They’re really comfortable.

SaginawSpiritOHL 01-10-2010 11:43 PM

I used a Itech Combo for a season of travel back in the mid 90's since they were the trendy new thing. I never used one again. It just seemed like a lot more work. I'm a heavily perspiring guy so i was always fogging up and getting water streaks no matter which defogger i used at the time. A cage was simple and low maintenance and frankly if you watch the college game, most players opt for the cage.

When i hit the beer leagues i took my cage off completely. My vision improved so much. I'll never go back.

Nbr-17 01-12-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaginawSpiritOHL (Post 23127539)
... It just seemed like a lot more work. I'm a heavily perspiring guy so i was always fogging up and getting water streaks no matter which defogger i used at the time. A cage was simple and low maintenance and frankly if you watch the college game, most players opt for the cage...

I agree, the visor combo is a lot more work. Also beside the obvious fogging which will depend on how much you sweat and how warm & humid the rink is, you will get marks on the outside and some snow/ice.
Breath-ability is also better with a cage.

NYRSinceBirth 01-15-2010 07:00 PM

I always thought cages were no big deal, coming from football cages, hockey cages look tiny. Then I skated in a half shield. Holy crap, what a difference. I hate the feeling of the chin cup so my cage is always loose, but I hadn't realized how much that hinders your peripheral vision. Also, cages are so heavy (OK, not really, but after the half shield, they are bricks).

kr580 07-15-2010 04:57 PM

Does anyone have opinions of the Bauer 920 Visor/Cage combo?

http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=B920CD

I currently have a Bauer 4500 cage but the bars are way thick and I have virtually no peripheral vision. I frequently lose the puck and pass to the wrong team because of it (i'm still a noob to hockey too, so it could be that i just suck). Would the Bauer 920 help out in the vision department much? Also, does anyone have experience with it and any comments on if it fogs up much or not?

I have no insurance so I need to stick with full face protection, so no visors.

Thanks - Kevin


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