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Gemma 01-08-2010 10:41 PM

Rangers denied Fenway Ice
 
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The Blueshirts, who face the Bruins here tomorrow afternoon, had requested about a half-hour of outdoor ice time early this afternoon, prior to the Hockey East outdoor doubleheader at Fenway commencing at 4 with a women’s game between UNH and Northeastern before the 7:30 men’s nightcap between BU and BC.

But though NHL ice-making specialist and facilities manager Dan Craig had given his approval — the rink originally made for the Jan. 1 Winter Classic has remained in place through the week for a variety of events — Hockey East ultimately was fearful that the practice would damage the ice surface.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...mQVC4Y16H4ZA1J


Seriously? A 30 minute practice will ruin the ice?!? :shakehead

BroadwayBlues 01-08-2010 10:43 PM

Yeah that answer made no sense. Since when a short practice ruin ice? Odd!

lbrowne 01-08-2010 11:18 PM

Repetitive drills on an ice surface can take a few usages and floods to get rid of. However 30 mins shouldn't be too bad, but they are NHL players and their 30 mins could be quite pressing.

We used to hate going on the ice for a game after figure skaters had it.

frozenrubber 01-09-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadwayBlues (Post 23091510)
Yeah that answer made no sense. Since when a short practice ruin ice? Odd!

Practices ruin ice all the time. It was a common occurrence after finishing a 45 minute session that we would have huge inch deep grooves and channels (especially from the hash marks down and behind the net).

Couple this w/ the fact that the conditions to resurface the ice aren't ideal, as they can't control the humidity or the air temperature.

The games going on that day actually matter, so it isn't fair to the teams playing to possibly damage the ice in any way. While poor ice can lead to sloppy play, it can also contribute to injuries. All we need is a collegiate blowing out their knee on a rut caused by Rozsival blowing a tire while trying to learn one-timers earlier in the day.

And most of all, practices should contain gamespeed action. I don't want the Rangers tiptoing around to prevent damaging ice. I rather them practice hard and have a worthwhile effort, not a photo-op.

Hockey Team 01-09-2010 12:29 AM

Why do you think teams have a practice rink instead of practicing on their main rink?

clmetsfan 01-09-2010 12:43 AM

Yeah, a regular indoor practice can damage it; I can imagine that on a makeshift rink it could have an even worse effect. They have a tough enough time keeping that rink frozen and smooth during the games. I certainly wouldn't want a visiting professional team to use it before a real game of my own.

Besides, what do the Rangers need a half hour on that rink for? There are plenty of rinks in the area for them to use.

OrbitalDynamics 01-09-2010 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by clmetsfan (Post 23093035)

Besides, what do the Rangers need a half hour on that rink for?

Off the top of my head, Torts being born in Boston plus Sully and Boyle being born in Plymouth might have something to do with it.

Plus the "Hey that's cool" aspect of it.Not every day you get to skate around on the infield at Fenway.

HeaveHo94 01-09-2010 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by clmetsfan (Post 23093035)
Yeah, a regular indoor practice can damage it; I can imagine that on a makeshift rink it could have an even worse effect. They have a tough enough time keeping that rink frozen and smooth during the games. I certainly wouldn't want a visiting professional team to use it before a real game of my own.

Besides, what do the Rangers need a half hour on that rink for? There are plenty of rinks in the area for them to use.



You don't get it. It's not about thee practice, but opportunity.

lbrowne 01-09-2010 04:31 AM

30 mins practice is only a small portion of the experience. This would have been a GREAT team building experience.

Arriving at the location, the dressing room, walking out to the ice surface.

Torts really wanted this for his team. I wish he got it.

BroadwayBlues 01-09-2010 09:33 AM

It sounds like they didn't have anywhere to practice. They first was denied access at Fenway, then they were suppose to practice at BU. Didn't happen cause they arrived in Boston late due to weather. Then practice was canceled.

Heat McManus 01-09-2010 10:24 AM

working at a rink that sees 8-10 NHL practices a year, I can say that a 30 minute skate can indeed chew up the ice.

Heat McManus 01-09-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by f2d (Post 23092912)
Why do you think teams have a practice rink instead of practicing on their main rink?

that and availability. MSG has something going on there pretty much every day, as do many other NHL arenas. NBA, lacrosse, concerts, trade shows, whatever.

Also, it's a lot cheaper to book ice at a smaller rink than at the arena.

ChipAyten 01-09-2010 10:43 AM

It's not as if the practice would have been all that hard, or stressful on the ice. We all know what it was about, just for the experience of being out there. Truth be told, the Hockey East officials are baaastan fans and hate new york :sarcasm:

BroadwayBlues 01-09-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ChipAyten (Post 23095124)
It's not as if the practice would have been all that hard, or stressful on the ice. We all know what it was about, just for the experience of being out there. Truth be told, the Hockey East officials are baaastan fans and hate new york :sarcasm:

I know you're being sarcastic but that thought did cross my mind.

clmetsfan 01-09-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HeaveHo94 (Post 23093933)

You don't get it. It's not about thee practice, but opportunity.

No, I do get it. And the importance of keeping the ice in good shape for a real game far outweighs giving some visiting players a cool experience.

Fact of the matter is that the Rangers did not need to use the rink, they just wanted to.

Heat McManus 01-09-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HeaveHo94 (Post 23093933)
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You don't get it. It's not about thee practice, but opportunity.

yes, for torts it's about the opportunity. for the HockeyEast officials its about keeping the ice as pristine as possible for their teams.

Brooklyn Ranger 01-09-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by clmetsfan (Post 23095327)
No, I do get it. And the importance of keeping the ice in good shape for a real game far outweighs giving some visiting players a cool experience.

Fact of the matter is that the Rangers did not need to use the rink, they just wanted to.

Exactly, it would have been nice if it worked out, but there was a double header--a women's game in the afternoon and a college game in the evening. It was more important to keep things as good as possible for the two games.

Hockey Team 01-09-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Heat McManus (Post 23095002)
that and availability. MSG has something going on there pretty much every day, as do many other NHL arenas. NBA, lacrosse, concerts, trade shows, whatever.

Also, it's a lot cheaper to book ice at a smaller rink than at the arena.

Yeah, but if you look at teams like the devils, they don't even share their arena with a basketball team, there's definitely plenty of opportunities to practice there but they don't.

Why risk poor ice quality for a real game when you can beat up some rink nobody's going to use?

Heat McManus 01-09-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by f2d (Post 23107649)
Yeah, but if you look at teams like the devils, they don't even share their arena with a basketball team, there's definitely plenty of opportunities to practice there but they don't.

Why risk poor ice quality for a real game when you can beat up some rink nobody's going to use?

the devils built there own practice rink that is literally connected to the Prudential Center. My reasoning was in addition to the fact that you're not going to use the ice if you don't have to.

n8 01-10-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lbrowne (Post 23092025)
Repetitive drills on an ice surface can take a few usages and floods to get rid of. However 30 mins shouldn't be too bad, but they are NHL players and their 30 mins could be quite pressing.

We used to hate going on the ice for a game after figure skaters had it.

I can personally tell you that Brian Boitano and his triple axels make some serious canyons in the ice.


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