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ISS Top 30 2010 prospects, January
 
Top 30 skaters, with risers and fallers.

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ISS Top 30 2010 prospects, January

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# Name Pos Birth Date S/C Ht. Wt. Team League

1 Hall, Taylor LW 11/14/1991 L *6.00.75 186 Windsor OHL
2 Seguin, Tyler C 1/31/1992 R *6.00.75 180 Plymouth OHL
3 Fowler, Cam D 12/5/1991 L *6.02 195 Windsor OHL
4 Tarasenko, Vladimir RW 12/13/1991 L 5.11 202 Novosibirsk KHL
5 Gormley, Brandon D 2/18/1992 L *6.02 187 Moncton QMJHL
6 Connolly, Brett LW 5/2/1992 R 6.02 181 Prince George WHL
7 Granlund, Mikael C 2/26/1992 L 5.10 180 HIFK Helsinki FinE
8 Kabanov, Kirill LW 7/16/1992 R *6.01.75 176 Moncton QMJHL
9 Pysyk, Mark D 1/11/1992 R *6.01 179 Edmonton WHL
10 Gudbranson, Erik D 1/7/1992 R *6.03.75 195 Kingston OHL
11 Burmistrov, Alexander C 10/21/1991 L *5.11.5 162 Barrie OHL
12 McFarland, John C 4/2/1992 R *6.00 200 Sudbury OHL
13 Forbort, Derek D 3/4/1992 L *6.04.5 198 Under 18 USHL
14 Sheahan, Riley C 12/7/1991 L 6.01.5 202 Notre Dame CCHA
15 Petrovic, Alexander D 3/3/1992 R *6.03.5 192 Red Deer WHL
16 Niederreiter, Nino LW 9/8/1992 L *6.01 205 Portland WHL
17 Bjugstad, Nick C 7/17/1992 R *6.03.75 188 Blaine MN-HS
18 Watson, Austin RW 1/13/1992 R *6.03 180 Peterborough OHL
19 Hishon, Joey C 10/20/1991 L *5.09.25 172 Owen Sound OHL
20 Kuznetsov, Evgeny C 5/19/1992 L 6.00 174 Chelyabinsk Traktor KHL
21 Skinner, Jeffrey C 5/16/1992 L *5.10 197 Kitchener OHL
22 Johansen, Ryan C 7/31/1992 R *6.02.25 194 Portland WHL
23 Tinordi, Jarred D 2/20/1992 L *6.05.5 205 Under 18 USHL
24 Kitsyn, Maxim LW 12/24/1991 R 6.02 194 Novokuznetsk KHL
25 Howden, Quinton LW 1/12/1992 L *6.00.75 183 Moose Jaw WHL
26 Schwartz, Jaden C 6/25/1992 L *5.10 180 Tri-City USHL
27 Nelson, Brock C 10/15/1991 L *6.02.5 205 Warroad MN-HS
28 Merrill, Jonathan D 2/3/1992 L *6.03.25 198 Under 18 USHL
29 Etem, Emerson C 6/16/1992 R *5.11.75 190 Medicine Hat WHL
30 Kuehnhackl, Tom RW 1/21/1992 L 6.02 172 Landshut Bund2

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ISS Top 30 2010 prospects, December

Name Pos. Birthdate S/C Ht. Wt. Team
1 Hall, Taylor LW 14-Nov-91 L *6.00.75 186 Windsor
2 Seguin, Tyler C 31-Jan-92 R *6.00.75 180 Plymouth
3 Fowler, Cam D 5-Dec-91 L *6.02 195 Windsor
4 Kabanov, Kirill LW 16-Jul-92 R *6.01.75 176 Moncton
5 Gormley, Brandon D 18-Feb-92 L *6.02 187 Moncton
6 Tarasenko, Vladimir RW 13-Dec-91 L 5.11 202 Novosibirsk
7 Connolly, Brett LW 2-May-92 R 6.02 181 Prince George
8 Granlund, Mikael C 26-Feb-92 L 5.10 180 HIFK Helsinki
9 Gudbranson, Erik D 7-Jan-92 R *6.03.75 195 Kingston
10 Burmistrov, Alexander C 21-Oct-91 L *5.11.5 162 Barrie
11 Pysyk, Mark D 11-Jan-92 R *6.01 179 Edmonton
12 McFarland, John C 2-Apr-92 R *6.00 200 Sudbury
13 Forbort, Derek D 4-Mar-92 L *6.04.5 198 Under 18
14 Petrovic, Alexander D 3-Mar-92 R *6.03.5 192 Red Deer
15 Bjugstad, Nick C 17-Jul-92 R *6.03.75 188 Blaine
16 Sheahan, Riley C 7-Dec-91 L 6.01.5 202 Notre Dame
17 Watson, Austin RW 13-Jan-92 R *6.03 180 Windsor
18 Hishon, Joey C 20-Oct-91 L *5.09.25 172 Owen Sound
19 Skinner, Jeffrey C 16-May-92 L *5.10 197 Kitchener
20 Kitsyn, Maxim LW 24-Dec-91 L 6.02 194 Novokuznetsk
21 Niederreiter, Nino LW 8-Sep-92 L *6.01 205 Portland
22 Johansen, Ryan C 31-Jul-92 R *6.02.25 194 Portland
23 Tinordi, Jarred D 20-Feb-92 L *6.05.5 205 Under 18
24 Howden, Quinton LW 12-Jan-92 L *6.00.75 183 Moose Jaw
25 Schwartz, Jaden C 25-Jun-92 L *5.10 180 Tri-City USHL
26 Kuznetsov, Evgeny C 19-May-92 L 6.00 174 Chelyabinsk KHL
27 Faulk, Justin D 20-Mar-92 R *5.11.75 196 Under 18 USHL
28 Nelson, Brock C 15-Oct-91 L *6.02.5 205 Warroad MN-H
29 Merrill, Jonathan D 3-Feb-92 L *6.03.25 198 Under 18 USHL
30 Pulkkinen, Teemu RW 2-Jan-92 R 5.11 183 Jokerit FinE
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ISS Top 30 2010 prospects, November

Name Pos Birthdate S/C Ht. Wt. Team League
1 HALL, Taylor LW 14-Nov-91 L 6.01 185 Windsor OHL
2 SEGUIN, Tyler C 31-Jan-92 R 6.01 186 Plymouth OHL
3 FOWLER, Cam LD 5-Dec-91 L 6.02 190 Windsor OHL
4 KABANOV, Kirill LW 16-Jul-92 R 6.03 176 Moncton QMJHL
5 GORMLEY, Brandon LD 18-Feb-92 L 6.01 175 Moncton QMJHL
6 CONNOLLY, Brett LW 2-May-92 R 6.02 181 Prince George WHL
7 GUDBRANSON, Erik RD 7-Jan-92 R 6.03 199 Kingston OHL
8 GRANLUND, Mikael LW 2/26/1992 L 5.10 176 HIFK FinE
9 TARASENKO, Vladimir F 12/13/1991 L 5.10 167 Sibir KHL
10 MCFARLAND, John LW 2-Apr-92 R 6.01 195 Sudbury OHL
11 PYSYK, Mark RD 11-Jan-92 R 6.01 175 Edmonton WHL
12 HISHON, Joey C 20-Oct-91 L 5.10 190 Owen Sound OHL
13 FORBORT, Derek LD 3/4/1992 L 6.04.5 198 U18 USHL
14 HOWDEN, Quinton LW 12-Jan-92 L 6.03 183 Moose Jaw WHL
15 SHEAHAN, Riley C 12/7/1991 L 6.02 195 NDU CCHA
16 TINORDI, Jarred LD 2/20/1992 L 6.05.5 205 U18 USHL
17 BURMISTROV, Alex C 21-Oct-91 R 6.00 170 Barrie OHL
18 WATSON, Austin RW 13-Jan-92 R 6.03 177 Windsor OHL
19 GALIEV, Stanislav C 17-Jan-92 R 6.01 182 Saint John QMJHL
20 SKINNER, Jeffrey C 16-May-92 L 5.10 182 Kitchener OHL
21 KUZNETSOV, Evgeny F 5/19/1992 L 6.00 174 Meche RUSU
22 NIEDERREITER, Nino LW 8-Sep-92 L 6.02 203 Portland WHL
23 ETEM, Emerson C 6-Jun-92 R 6.00 194 Medicine Hat WHL
24 JOHANSEN, Ryan C 31-Jul-92 R 6.03 188 Portland WHL
25 MERRILL, Jonathan LD 2/3/1992 L *6.03.25 198 U18 USHL
26 PULKKINEN, Teemu C 1/2/1992 R 5.11 176 Joker FinE
27 BJUGSTAD, Nick W 7/17/1992 R 6.03.75 188 Blain MN-HS
28 ZUCKER, Jason LW 1/16/1992 L 5.10.5 174 U18 USHL
29 KITSYN, Maxim C 12/24/1991 R 6.03 194 Metal KHL
30 KUHNHACKL, Tom F 1/21/1992 L 6.01 180 Lands GerJr

Madic 01-17-2010 12:46 AM

That's the highest I've seen Bjugstad, and definitely the highest I've seen Petrovic. Faulk's getting some first round attention now, too.

McFarland placed a little more realistically, now, I think. I like his skill set, like everyone, but there never seems to be any results when I watch him play. Not the best instincts.

Banks3rdLineCenter 01-17-2010 01:42 AM

Sad to see Kevin Clare in the "falling" section. He went to my high school for a year before transferring. He was a good guy.

KL* 01-17-2010 01:46 AM

I'd put Watson and Skinner higher, Gudbranson lower. Spooner should crack that top 30 as well.

I give them props for putting Tinordi in the first round though.

Muuri 01-17-2010 05:06 AM

Good to see Granlund still in the top 10.

Canuck71 01-17-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadTrip (Post 23241898)
I'd put Watson and Skinner higher, Gudbranson lower. Spooner should crack that top 30 as well.

I give them props for putting Tinordi in the first round though.

Really Gudbranson lower? Any team that picks this guy outside the top 8 is getting one hell of a defenseman. I really believe he could potentially be a franchise defenseman. He plays a game mature beyond his years and hasn't gotten much exposure this year because of injuries and illness.

KL* 01-17-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck71 (Post 23243812)
Really Gudbranson lower? Any team that picks this guy outside the top 8 is getting one hell of a defenseman. I really believe he could potentially be a franchise defenseman. He plays a game mature beyond his years and hasn't gotten much exposure this year because of injuries and illness.

Every time I've seen him, he's been nothing special. Big. Nothing more. I haven't seen any reason to draft him anywhere near the top half of the first round.

AmericanDream 01-17-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banks3rdLineCenter (Post 23241871)
Sad to see Kevin Clare in the "falling" section. He went to my high school for a year before transferring. He was a good guy.

the funny thing about the "falling" list is that they only have three guys falling, but 12 guys rising???

Kevin Clare is not an offensive defensemen, I do not know what ISS could have a problem with, as he will fit the mold of a Mark Mitera type player.

Clare and Fowler were the top two ranked U-18 dmen last year, and unfortunately for him, the likes of Merrill, Forbort, Tinordi, Johns, and Faulk have all come on like a freight train. I would throw in Merrill with Fowler and Clare, as all three were projected first rounders last year.

I don't believe Clare will be a first round talent, but understand that this is the type of player that doesn't fall out of the third round imo. He is way too reliable in his own zone. He always has excellent positioning in the mold of a Paul Martin. He may be getting overshadowed now by some of the "bigger" boys on that US blueline, but Kevin Clare is still going to be a pretty high draft pick.

Nick Mattson would be the guy I would put as falling over Kevin Clare, as Mattson is the one that has had a better offensive game, but has struggled at stretches this year in the USHL.

Harry Kakalovich 01-17-2010 03:39 PM

Anyone know what the asterisks mean in the ISS lists? I can never figure them out. I see no pattern to them at all, yet they are on all of the lists I've ever gotten from them, and they never mention what they are. Cheers!

AmericanDream 01-17-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Kakalovitch (Post 23249057)
Anyone know what the asterisks mean in the ISS lists? I can never figure them out. I see no pattern to them at all, yet they are on all of the lists I've ever gotten from them, and they never mention what they are. Cheers!

the only thing that I could possibly think of is that if you look at all the European players, none of them have that asterik. I should say the European players not playing in North America (CHL or USHL), those guys do not have asteriks. Connolly also does not have an asterik, but maybe that is due to his injury?

Sheahan also does not have an asterik, maybe because he plays in college?? I dont know, I thought I had it with the Euro's not playing in North America until I saw him.

Default101 01-17-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Kakalovitch (Post 23249057)
Anyone know what the asterisks mean in the ISS lists? I can never figure them out. I see no pattern to them at all, yet they are on all of the lists I've ever gotten from them, and they never mention what they are. Cheers!

If i'm not mistaken and someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it means that the player was measured personally by the scouting service. You hear players refered to as "Bigger than he is listed" Because sometimes team sites or even league sites will list someone bigger than they really are to make them sound more appealing. Like Tarasenko for example may only be 185 but he's listed as 202. The asterisk states that is their true height/weight at the time of measurement by ISS.

Kevin Malone 01-17-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadTrip (Post 23241898)
I'd put Watson and Skinner higher, Gudbranson lower. Spooner should crack that top 30 as well.

I give them props for putting Tinordi in the first round though.

Couldn't agree more RoadTrip!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck71 (Post 23243812)
Really Gudbranson lower? Any team that picks this guy outside the top 8 is getting one hell of a defenseman. I really believe he could potentially be a franchise defenseman. He plays a game mature beyond his years and hasn't gotten much exposure this year because of injuries and illness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadTrip (Post 23244826)
Every time I've seen him, he's been nothing special. Big. Nothing more. I haven't seen any reason to draft him anywhere near the top half of the first round.

Likewise. Everytime I've seen Grundbanson I have walked away wondering why scouts are so high on him.

Another thing that GM's will look at is programs like Kitchener and Windsor have a good reputation for developing players in recent history and Kingston well.....

This no doubt affects how high certain players are taken.

BenchedGuy 01-18-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadTrip (Post 23241898)
I'd put Watson and Skinner higher, Gudbranson lower. Spooner should crack that top 30 as well.

I give them props for putting Tinordi in the first round though.

Would like to see how Watson's game has translated since being traded.

Never understand how someone like Skinner, leading or was leading the league in goals, is ranked lower than Burmistrov and McFarland. Skinner has great hockey sense, speed and great hands.
Way too much hype on McFarland for way too long, dont get me wrong, has the skill set for a first rounder but has been projected top 10 for too long.

KL* 01-18-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchedGuy (Post 23262364)
Would like to see how Watson's game has translated since being traded.

Never understand how someone like Skinner, leading or was leading the league in goals, is ranked lower than Burmistrov and McFarland. Skinner has great hockey sense, speed and great hands.
Way too much hype on McFarland for way too long, dont get me wrong, has the skill set for a first rounder but has been projected top 10 for too long.

Burmistrov has a smoother stride, and the way he plays the game makes scouts feel like he's going to be a top player in the NHL, regardless of whether he's actually doing anything in the OHL that night. Burmistrov is more about projection, Skinner is more about production.

I prefer Skinner, but I can see how Burmistrov would be appealing. Burmistrov just LOOKS like a good player.

hawksfan50 01-18-2010 11:20 AM

So we can strt with the "differences of opinion" debates...

It appears ISS like Riley Sheahan a lot less than NHL Central Scouting does...that the ISS likes Tom Kuehnhackl (only 10th best euroskater in Central Scouting rankings) a lot more than Swedes Ludvig Rensfeldt and Jonathan Johansson (5th and 8th best euroskaters respectively in central Scouting's view) just to name a few differencesof opinion...

DuklaNation 01-18-2010 11:28 AM

Cant all these websites/services get accurate heights & weights? Guess we'll have to wait for the draft tests.

My Religion 01-18-2010 05:45 PM

Jordan Weal
 
Surprized Weal is not in top 30. Has performed as well as, if not better than the other small guys in the top 30. ie Hishon, Granlund, Schwartz. Granlund is a good player, but if he was Canadian, he wouldn't have made a WJC team yet.

FlamesWillRiseAgain 01-18-2010 05:52 PM

Skinner and Weal will both be steals if they go as low as projected.

pine* 01-18-2010 05:57 PM

How did Kabanov fall a few spots while Connolly gained a spot? Aren't they both injured for some time?

Harry Kakalovich 01-18-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ry-Dogg (Post 23251528)
If i'm not mistaken and someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it means that the player was measured personally by the scouting service. You hear players refered to as "Bigger than he is listed" Because sometimes team sites or even league sites will list someone bigger than they really are to make them sound more appealing. Like Tarasenko for example may only be 185 but he's listed as 202. The asterisk states that is their true height/weight at the time of measurement by ISS.

Thanks R-D... that would make sense, because there is no really recognizable pattern to the asterisks other than that. Cheers!

Trxjw 01-18-2010 07:09 PM

Anyone have any extended info on Joe Basaraba? Based on the success Stepan is having, I'd imagine the Rangers will be scouting SSM quite a bit.


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