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BobbyClarkeFan16 02-08-2010 09:54 PM

JVR's ice time
 
Not sure if anyone else heard this tonight on the broadcast, but Keith Jones said that Laviolette is trying to "find" JVR ice time. As it stands amongst first year players, Jones said that JVR is 54th in terms of ice time. I checked ESPN and JVR is getting 13:04 of ice time per game. Now, maybe it's just me, but the guy has outperformed Gagne and Hartnell, yet they still get more ice time than JVR. Gagne gets 5:05 more in ice time and Hartnell gets 2:44 more.

So, what does JVR need to do to get more ice time in Philadelphia? (besides make 4.25 or 5.05 million dollars)

TheSkatingDutchman 02-08-2010 10:01 PM

The question is should he be getting more ice time. I mean yeah, he's having an excellent rookie season but there's no need to overwork him. If he's being effective with his current ice time, don't ruin it.

FlyHigh 02-08-2010 10:01 PM

Eh, we're bringing him along slowly.

At UNH in his first year, JVR mainly played on the 2nd line and did very well, and then stepped up and shouldered the load when asked to carry the offense the next year.

So maybe there's a similar type thing at work.

HoverCarle* 02-08-2010 10:02 PM

I guess you mean 4.20 million or 5.25 million.

And it doesnt really matter, he plays well with Giroux and Asham, and is starting to get PP time. You want to toss him on the PK or something?

Add to that the fact that NCAA seasons are very short and he isnt used to a 82 game schedule, I think around 14 mins is fine for him

GKJ 02-08-2010 10:05 PM

Some more PP time might be apt. He's getting 1:32/game (more than I thought). But I think his ice time is being kept down so that he doesn't wear out, since he's not really used to the schedule.

Clown Baby* 02-08-2010 10:08 PM

As rookies:
Simon Gagne - 48 PTS 14:58 ATOI
Jeff Carter - 42 PTS 11:56 ATOI
Mike Richards - 34 PTS 15:11 ATOI
James van Riemsdyk - 32 PTS 13:07 ATOI
Claude Giroux - 27 PTS 15:10 ATOI

Three of those players are All-Stars. Why change an obviously winning formula?

langerrr 02-08-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkatingDutchman (Post 23765288)
The question is should he be getting more ice time. I mean yeah, he's having an excellent rookie season but there's no need to overwork him. If he's being effective with his current ice time, don't ruin it.

Yet you would leave Gagne to the amount of ice time hes getting just to squander every offensive opportunity? Put someone out there who wants to play, Gagne has been an effortless waste of space.

flyguy 02-08-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by langerrr (Post 23767276)
Yet you would leave Gagne to the amount of ice time hes getting just to squander every offensive opportunity? Put someone out there who wants to play, Gagne has been an effortless waste of space.

You run the risk of wearing him down too much.

JVR is currently 3rd in points for Rookies. He's 1 behind Tavares and 8 behind Duchene. He has played about 300 less minutes of overall ice time than both in 4 less games. Tavares, who is supposed to be miles ahead of JVR in terms of raw talent has already hit his wall. So much that it will probably cost the Isles a good playoff chance. I see them falling quickly. Duchene is still chugging at a decent pace, but you have to think he's going to hit a wall at some point. Playing JVR less will pay dividends later on. Just look at tonight. 54 games into the season for him, and he's playing like it's October. With the break, he'll be even more fresh than a lot of guys in the league, especially the ones that are going to play in the Olympics.

GoneFullHextall 02-09-2010 01:31 AM

JVR should be kept where he is at on the 3rd line. His play this season has been fine.
he could end up with 40-45 points which would be pretty good consitering the ice time he has got for the most part this season

Morinisbear 02-09-2010 06:59 AM

Is it me or does he really step it up against the Devils? Every time we have played them this year he looks ten times faster than any other player out there! Hmm, maybe I should put this in the GTD?

Anyway, I like him on the 3rd line with opportunities on higher lines from time to time. I like how they are bringing him along and wouldnt mind a little more ice time....just don't over do it.

FlyHigh 02-09-2010 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BernieHexBergEry (Post 23770451)
Is it me or does he really step it up against the Devils? Every time we have played them this year he looks ten times faster than any other player out there! Hmm, maybe I should put this in the GTD?

Anyway, I like him on the 3rd line with opportunities on higher lines from time to time. I like how they are bringing him along and wouldnt mind a little more ice time....just don't over do it.

I honestly think he still doesn't realize how much faster he is than most NHL players. You hear so much about the speed of the NHL and the better talent of the NHL and etc. in NCAA and I think JVR has been a little more cautious.

You see on nights like last night when he uses his speed, stickhandling, passing, and physicality, he's basically unplayable.


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