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rupispupis 04-27-2004 06:41 PM

Pupis 1st draft.
 
Hello all. I've been looking at a lot of mocks and rankings and I thought I'd
have a crack at it.
1. WAS - OVECHKIN L
2. PIT - MALKIN C
3. CHI - RADULOV R
4. CLB - BARKER D
5. PHO - OLESZ C
6. NYR - LADD L
7. FLA - TUKKONEN C
8. CAR - THELEN D
9. ANA - GREEN D
10. ATL - SCHREMP C
11. LA - SCHWARZ G
12. MIN - STAFFORD R
13. BUF - LEPISTO D
14. EDM - MONTOYA G
15. NAS - VALABIK D
16. NYI - BOLLAND C
17. STL - LISIN L
18. MTL - CHIPCHURA C
19. CAL - SMID D
20. DAL - WOLSKI L
21.COL - O'NEILL D
22. NJ - OGORODNIKOV C
23. EDM(PHI) - FRANSSON D
24. VAN - KASPAR R
25. OTT - SCHULTZ D
26. NYR(TOR) - WHARTON D
27. WAS(BOS) - MESZAROS D
28. SJ - BICKELL L
29. TB - LYAMIN D
30. WAS(DET) - SALMONSSON W

I do want to make a note... i follow the Hawks and it took me a long time to decide between Olesz, Barker, and Radulov for #3. Barker seems to be the B.P.A. , but Chicago is pretty stocked with promising D (Babchuk, Seabrook, Barinka, Wisnewski, Keith). Olesz is having injury problems and slipping on some lists.
Alex Radulov has an older brother already in the minors for the Hawks. Igor showed great potential last year when he scored 5 goals in 7 games during a call-up. This year he failed to stay on the team, and maybe uniting him with a younger and very promising sibling could jump-start him as well. So I do beleive that the hawks are after Radulov Jr.
Comments are welcome.

thestonedkoala 04-27-2004 06:43 PM

I don't believe Wolski will fall that far.

#2 04-27-2004 08:59 PM

hmmm i dont see schremp falling to the 10th pick, im sure if hes available by NYR's pick they will draft him, also i think Lepisto is a little high in the draft here, he more of a 20-28th pick but thats just my opinion

sushinsky4tsar 04-27-2004 09:18 PM

Agreed. I think O'Neill is a bit low too. Interesting how depending on what the Hawks do at 3, is gonna create a pretty big domino effect a good ways down the order. Can't wait to see this thing actually play out.

sushinsky4tsar 04-27-2004 09:23 PM

I agree that Wolski might have some "fall potential". But I don't think it goes to 20, maybe 13 to 15 at the worst, and that's pretty unlikely. Also, I believe you missed Picard, you're gonna want to pencil him somewhere in the top 15 imo.

KH1 04-27-2004 11:05 PM

Bolland won't be picked before Chipchura. Also, in addition to having O'Neill to low, you overrate Mike Green. People will take Valabik ahead of him simply because he is bigger.

DJ Spinoza 04-27-2004 11:15 PM

Yeah, Bolland is a good prospect but I don't think he will go that high. I'd look at him to be taken either somewhere later in the first to one of the playoff teams, or to go sometime in the second.

rupispupis 04-28-2004 01:39 PM

Here's An Adjustment Based On All The Comments.
1. Was - Ovechkin L
2. Pit - Malkin C
3. Chi - Radulov R
4. Clb - Barker D
5. Pho - Olesz C
6. Nyr - Schremp C
7. Fla - Ladd L
8. Car - Thelen D
9. Ana - Tukkonen C
10. Atl - Stafford R
11. La - Schwarz G
12. Min - Valabik D
13. Buf - Green D
14. Edm - Montoya G
15. Nas - O'neill D
16. Nyi - Lisin L
17. Stl - Chipchura C
18. Mtl - Wolski L
19. Cal - Lepisto D
20. Dal - Bolland C
21.col - Smid D
22. Nj - Ogorodnikov C
23. Edm(phi) - Fransson D
24. Van - Kaspar R
25. Ott - Schultz D
26. Nyr(tor) - Wharton D
27. Was(bos) - Meszaros D
28. Sj - Bickell L
29. Tb - Lyamin D
30. Was(det) - Salmonsson W

thestonedkoala 04-28-2004 02:58 PM

Minnesota won't take a defenseman :D

fedorov_jr 04-28-2004 03:14 PM

neither will calgary :D :D

Potted Plant 04-28-2004 04:05 PM

Ehh. Don't let teh comments get you down. Your mock draft is just as valid as anyone else's. Don't be so sure on the whole NYR/Schremp/Ladd thing. Don't be shocked if Wolski drops.

Sometimes a draft goes entirely differently from how conventional wisdom suggests it will play out.

My predictions:

1) One of the "Big 4" will not be taken in the top 4.

2) Someone not generally considered a top 10 pick right now will be taken in the top 10.

3) Someone that no one expects to still be on the board at #11 will still be on the board at #15.

4) Neither Malkin nor Ovechkin will be the best player from this draft in 10 years.

icarus 04-28-2004 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedorov_jr
neither will calgary :D :D

If he's the BPA, they will.

Joe T Choker 04-28-2004 05:20 PM

ok...two things

Where's Picard?

and Nashville won't take a DMAN

Flames Draft Watcher 04-28-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fedorov_jr
neither will calgary :D :D

Wouldn't be so sure of that if I were you. Sutter tends to value defensemen more highly than forwards.

Classic Devil 04-28-2004 08:12 PM

NJ is going to take a D-man, I'm almost positive, unless there's a forward whose value is just too great to pass up.

Dr_Gonz0 04-29-2004 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupispupis
Here's An Adjustment Based On All The Comments.
1. Was - Ovechkin L
2. Pit - Malkin C
3. Chi - Radulov R
4. Clb - Barker D
5. Pho - Olesz C
6. Nyr - Schremp C
7. Fla - Ladd L
8. Car - Thelen D
9. Ana - Tukkonen C
10. Atl - Stafford R
11. La - Schwarz G
12. Min - Valabik D
13. Buf - Green D
14. Edm - Montoya G
15. Nas - O'neill D
16. Nyi - Lisin L
17. Stl - Chipchura C
18. Mtl - Wolski L
19. Cal - Lepisto D
20. Dal - Bolland C
21.col - Smid D
22. Nj - Ogorodnikov C
23. Edm(phi) - Fransson D
24. Van - Kaspar R
25. Ott - Schultz D
26. Nyr(tor) - Wharton D
27. Was(bos) - Meszaros D
28. Sj - Bickell L
29. Tb - Lyamin D
30. Was(det) - Salmonsson W

I don't see the oilers taking a goalie first, they are apparently high on Dubnyk, so i could see EDM's 1st 3 drafts gonig something like this:

1) Picard
2) Shultz/Meszaros
3) Dubnyk

Narnia 04-29-2004 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0
I don't see the oilers taking a goalie first, they are apparently high on Dubnyk, so i could see EDM's 1st 3 drafts gonig something like this:

1) Picard
2) Shultz/Meszaros
3) Dubnyk

I also read somewhere that the Oilers are high on Montoya.

Dr_Gonz0 04-29-2004 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemsky83
I also read somewhere that the Oilers are high on Montoya.

They have him rated as one of the top 2 in the draft, yes, i forget which of him or Schwarz they have higher. Generally though, drafting goalies is guestemation at best, even with so called "franchise future goaltenders". I jsut can't see them passing on Picard/Chipchura/Radulov, and if they are gone, then someone who was previosly slotted to go in the top 10, has fallen into our lap. Montoya is rated #1 NA goaltending prospect in this draft, but he is by no means a sure thing, a "franchise tender", and if you look back 2 drafts, we selected the #1 NA goaltending prospect then, JDD. I would be happy if we took Dubnyk/Shantz in the 2nd round, and used our first selection on a bonafide scorer that we can not seem to trade for due to salary, so, this is the only way i view the Oilers have of gaining one, the draft.

trahans99 05-01-2004 07:46 PM

Boris Valabik is a horrible defenceman!!!!!!!!! I dunno why anyone would pick him for any reason besides he is huge. But he plays like a big dumb idiot!!!!! I seen him play in London 3 times this year and thought he was playing like a little kid.... he can't skate or shoot......all he has going for him is size and Brandon Prust a 5'9, 180lbs player absolutely kicked his ass. Valabik ended up laying on his back then got up and threw his helmet like a little spoiled kid not getting the candy he wants.......I would not draft this big dumb babboon!!!!!!!!!!


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