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lovetherangers 03-14-2010 01:19 PM

Will the Rangers retaliate against Carcillo?
 
What do you think? Will the Rangers retaliate against Carcillo, or target another Flyers player in retaliation today? The players all talked the talk about their thinking only about winning the game, but we all know,

1) They CAN'T say they will retaliate or when they do suspensions/ game misconducts/fines may ensue.

and;

2) Players are human, and grudges remain, as do thoughts of payback.

I don't know what they'll do. I know I HOPE Shelley pounds Carcillo into next week, but that's just me.

phantoms 03-14-2010 01:20 PM

They might "try"

h0ckeyman 03-14-2010 01:22 PM

LOL, This is the softest group of fairies in all of sports, you think they're going to do anything? I bet not.

UAGoalieGuy 03-14-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lovetherangers (Post 24492279)
What do you think? Will the Rangers retaliate against Carcillo, or target another Flyers player in retaliation today? The players all talked the talk about their thinking only about winning the game, but we all know,

1) They CAN'T say they will retaliate or when they do suspensions/ game misconducts/fines may ensue.

and;

2) Players are human, and grudges remain, as do thoughts of payback.

I don't know what they'll do. I know I HOPE Shelley pounds Carcillo into next week, but that's just me.

Super! Yes, retaliate in a must win game, probably taking an extended penalty and giving the Flyers the man advantage that could mean the game. Good idea! It would be completely selfish if they went after Carcillo due to a personal vendetta when this team's season hangs on the line every remaining game.

If someone takes a run at him and the game is still close, that player should be benched. The Rangers HAVE to stay out of the box as much as possible this game (and all remaining games this year) and not shoot themselves in the foot by taking stupid penalties.

lovetherangers 03-14-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UAGoalieGuy (Post 24492395)
Super! Yes, retaliate in a must win game, probably taking an extended penalty and giving the Flyers the man advantage that could mean the game. Good idea! It would be completely selfish if they went after Carcillo due to a personal vendetta when this team's season hangs on the line every remaining game.

If someone takes a run at him and the game is still close, that player should be benched. The Rangers HAVE to stay out of the box as much as possible this game (and all remaining games this year) and not shoot themselves in the foot by taking stupid penalties.

Like I said players are human. You never know. Besides if Shelley and Carcillo square off then they both get 5 so no big deal. I'm not advocating a wood shampoo, just a simple fight, which won't end up hurting anyone PP wise.

Brian Boyle 03-14-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lovetherangers (Post 24492493)
Like I said players are human. You never know. Besides if Shelley and Carcillo square off then they both get 5 so no big deal. I'm not advocating a wood shampoo, just a simple fight, which won't end up hurting anyone PP wise.

why would Carcillo fight Shelley? then again, I never thought Gaborik would fight Carcillo.

UAGoalieGuy 03-14-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lovetherangers (Post 24492493)
Like I said players are human. You never know. Besides if Shelley and Carcillo square off then they both get 5 so no big deal. I'm not advocating a wood shampoo, just a simple fight, which won't end up hurting anyone PP wise.

If they both start bumping into eachother or start chriping at eachother before a faceoff, fine. I hope Shelley beats him. Taking a unprovoked run at him, hense getting an instigator penalty and the Rangers then going short handed because of it, is a huge no no.

Yes these players are human, but they are not beer league mens league hockey players. They get paid hundreds of thousands if not millions to play this game. They are professional athletes. Every now and then will a player do something completely stupid, yes. Most of the time the players pick their spots, though.

There is always a place and a time for something like this, but at this point in the season, it is not the place nor the time.

Nick00 03-14-2010 01:33 PM

He beat up Gaborik the last time they played?
Seems like a long time ago, hmm.

Yeah, Shelley should definitely go after him. That's what he's being paid to do.
Just be smart about it.

UAGoalieGuy 03-14-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -31- (Post 24492553)
why would Carcillo fight Shelley? then again, I never thought Gaborik would fight Carcillo.

lol I love your avatar. I hope the Rangers re-sign Jokinen (To a reasonable deal) just for the sheer fact of the fun we have with all things Jokinen. lol

lovetherangers 03-14-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UAGoalieGuy (Post 24492558)
If they both start bumping into eachother or start chriping at eachother before a faceoff, fine. I hope Shelley beats him. Taking a unprovoked run at him, hense getting an instigator penalty and the Rangers then going short handed because of it, is a huge no no.

Yes these players are human, but they are not beer league mens league hockey players. They get paid hundreds of thousands if not millions to play this game. They are professional athletes. Every now and then will a player do something completely stupid, yes. Most of the time the players pick their spots, though.

There is always a place and a time for something like this, but at this point in the season, it is not the place nor the time.

Thats what I meant. I would never hope for a player to do the Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown to another player. Just a good old fashioned donneybrooks. Its funny because when I read your line "Every now and then a player [will] do something completely stupid" I thought of Sean Avery. :laugh:

hlundqvist30* 03-14-2010 01:53 PM

It's hilarious how people here qualify Avery's value as being able to get people to forget about the game and worry about him, and yet here were are worrying about Dan Carcillo instead of a must win game.

I don't care if Brandon Prust were to knock Carcillo unconscious while dragging Scott Hartnell behind. If we lose it's irrelevant. If any player in the locker room right now is thinking about Dan Carcillo and not a game that MUST be won then this team is even more hopeless than it already appears.

Panfork 03-14-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hlundqvist30 (Post 24493080)
It's hilarious how people here qualify Avery's value as being able to get people to forget about the game and worry about him, and yet here were are worrying about Dan Carcillo instead of a must win game.

I don't care if Brandon Prust were to knock Carcillo unconscious while dragging Scott Hartnell behind. If we lose it's irrelevant. If any player in the locker room right now is thinking about Dan Carcillo and not a game that MUST be won then this team is even more hopeless than it already appears.

:facepalm: UGH. I acknowledged we were playing Philly today, but I totally forgot about that goaliecharging *******. I really hope someone draws a fight out of him and knocks his teeth out.

lovetherangers 03-14-2010 02:02 PM

I'm sure winning the game is foremost on the players minds. But Carcillo might be on the backs of some minds. I always wanted to win when I played (isn't that usually the point? I mean who goes out there looking to lose?) but I always knew which numbers to be aware of out there. It's not like a player is going to chase Carcillo around with a meat cleaver, but you know his number, and if afforded the opportunity you can certainly challenge him to a fight.

Wraparounds 03-14-2010 02:02 PM

Can't we have both?

I want Shelley to break Carcillo's face in, AND I want us to win in regulation. There.

satrabyk 03-14-2010 02:05 PM

I doubt it will get out of hand, only if the game gets lop-sided either way.

lovetherangers 03-14-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Fan in PGH (Post 24493315)
Can't we have both?

I want Shelley to break Carcillo's face in, AND I want us to win in regulation. There.

Thank You. It's not like it either or here, sheesh!

Radek27 03-14-2010 02:08 PM

If Carcillo comes into our building and leaves without a scratch i'm gonna get sick.

HAPPY HOUR 03-14-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Fan in PGH (Post 24493315)
Can't we have both?

I want Shelley to break Carcillo's face in, AND I want us to win in regulation. There.

perfect.

Panfork 03-14-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Fan in PGH (Post 24493315)
Can't we have both?

I want Shelley to break Carcillo's face in, AND I want us to win in regulation. There.

I'll be happy when this includes Hartnell getting sent into his goalie.

KreiMeARiver* 03-14-2010 02:16 PM

They won't retaliate...

and, to some of the other posters..

they won't play smart anyway, not take penalties, and win..

they suck and I hope the whole team falls off a cliff.

Hockey Team 03-15-2010 02:27 AM

Today's game was too close for someone to take a dumb instigator penalty or a 5 minute major for cheapshotting someone

You don't see players getting jumped and pummeled unless one team's getting blown out by like 6 goals and could give a damn if they give up a 9 minute power play. (and for the record, carcillo gave washington a 9 minute power play

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=291205015

That was the game. He pulled that crap when it was a 1-1 tied game and totally screwed his team. No penalty killers are going to be able to keep it up for HALF AN ENTIRE PERIOD. Washington scored 3 times on the 9 min PP and completely destroyed any morale left on the criers team

We finish the season with a home and home.

If by then we clinched a playoff spot, or if it's a game where we're leading or behind by like 6 goals in the 3rd period, then go ahead and give up a 7 minute power play by grabbing carcillo and pounding his face in (whether or not he accepts the fight is his problem). If you're risking nothing, or risking the difference between say the 7 or 8 seed, then go ahead and settle the score. If the dumb penalty could cost you a playoff spot, you need to save the grudge for some other time.

pld459666 03-15-2010 05:37 AM

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In my opinion, this is something that is addressed during less important times.

As much as I believe in team toughness and bonding over certain issues being addressed, unfortunately now is not the time to address Carcillo.

With the team this close to the PO's, I could bet dollars to donuts that Torts stressed the importance of the points over retribution.

In this instance, I agree with him.

It used to be said that Hockey players had the longest of memories and that these types of transgressions didn't go unpunished for long. We'll see next September or October if that is true.

Had we been 10 points out of 8th, I'd have said that Carcillo should be dog meat right now. That's not the case though.

lovetherangers 03-15-2010 07:42 AM

Well the game ended without retaliation, for now. We'll see what the home and home the last two games of the season holds. This thread can be closed now...

I Am Chariot 03-15-2010 07:49 AM

For now the best retaliation is simply 2 pts

x BEUKEBOOM x 03-15-2010 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chariot (Post 24508689)
For now the best retaliation is simply 2 pts


2pts and Dubi giving Richards a facefull for round 3 of their 2 1/2 year love affair.


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