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TopShelfGoal 03-25-2010 09:43 AM

Letang Offer
 
Heard on "The Fan" that Letang has turned down an offer that would make him 3.5 million a season. Just a rumor, but did anyone else hear anything about this?

bit82 03-25-2010 10:15 AM

I can't see him getting an offer sheet from another team for more than that. I was assuming he'd make around 3M/yr. Not so sure if I believe this. He should be pleased if he gets over 3M/yr, especially after this season.

Darth Vitale 03-25-2010 10:20 AM

I doubt very much there are any negotiations going on at this particular time but anything is possible. Most likely Shero has shelved any talks until summer, at this point.

Mister Ed 03-25-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ridoli (Post 24715551)
Heard on "The Fan" that Letang has turned down an offer that would make him 3.5 million a season. Just a rumor, but did anyone else hear anything about this?

No and what is their source?

I'm on the fence about retaining Letang, I'd love to have him as part of the core but there is just no way Shero can justify paying him more than $3-$3.5M per year, and even that is pushing it in my mind. He's talented, yes, has great potential, yes, but is just too damn inconsistent and sporadic offensively. If he truly believes he's worth $3.5M+ then I hope management plays hardball and he'll realize quickly that no other team is going to cough up a 1st and 3rd for his services.

A two year, maybe $2.5M-ish deal would be in the best interest of both parties, let him grow his game a little more and maybe he'll be worth that big commitment or maybe he'll continue to struggle and we part ways.

zhenyas most fly rep 03-25-2010 12:16 PM

if you re-do the 2005 NHL Enrty Draft, Letang would most likely be a top 15 pick.
With that in mind, I bet that most of the teams would be more than happy to give up a 1st and a 3rd for Letang, then make space for his salary.
Draft picks are so over-rated.(well maybe not the top 10 but besides that there's a lot of uncertainty whereas someone like Letang is already proven at the NHL level.)

Ziggyjoe21 03-25-2010 12:33 PM

Mark Madden also mentioned this a couple weeks ago.

There's nothing wrong with paying Letang $4 mill a year, although it would be an overpayment at this point.

Snooki Stackhouse 03-25-2010 12:39 PM

We need Letang. There's no question. He'll make a mistake every couple games, but he and Orpik are the only dmen worth a damn in their own zone right now.

Hophog 03-25-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Taste (Post 24718286)
We need Letang. There's no question. He'll make a mistake every couple games, but he and Orpik are the only dmen worth a damn in their own zone right now.

I felt like Letang's stock has been dropping lately but that might just be his development slowing somewhat. He was getting better game by game IMO since he entered the league and this season he's seemed about the same throughout. The game last night made me realize how much we need him though, or at least, made me realize how limited we really are offensively. I know Malkin and Gonch are out but come on! The best we have in shoot outs after Crosby and Letang are Guerin and Kunitz? I always thought we had a bit of an unfair advantage in shoot outs but, in actuality we are really lacking (stating the obvious, I'm sure)in that department. Letang is awesome in the shoot out though. It's too bad we can never get him one on one w/ a goalie in a game he has better hands than most everyone on the team w/ the exception of Crosby and maybe Malkin(although I haven't seen great hands from Geno for most of the season)

I'm also aware that Christiansan was a shoot out artist as well and we all saw that, that does not translate into game time goal scoring but Letang has many more tools (like skating) that EC didn't have.

Killswitch7187 03-25-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Taste (Post 24718286)
We need Letang. There's no question. He'll make a mistake every couple games, but he and Orpik are the only dmen worth a damn in their own zone right now.

Add in Leopold and we got a deal(Agreement).

Anyway, I strongly believe we NEED to re-sign Letang, I'd give him a 4 year/12 million contract easily, but he'll prob earn slightly more than that per year. He is our replacement for Gonchar, and all he is going to do is just improve. Inconsistent on offense sure, in his own zone at times, sure. But doesn't mean we throw him under the bus. He has "elite" written all over him, and is surely our 2nd best d-man at the moment, defensively.

Deadbolt401 03-25-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggyjoe21 (Post 24718207)
Mark Madden also mentioned this a couple weeks ago.

There's nothing wrong with paying Letang $4 mill a year, although it would be an overpayment at this point
.

How, what, huh?

Harv 03-25-2010 01:52 PM

I'd love a 4/12mil or a 5/15mil from him. I think it's totally fair.

Jag68Sid87 03-25-2010 02:35 PM

Assuming the $3.5 million/year rejection is true, how many years did he reject? If we offered him a short-term deal, then it's no wonder he rejected it. I doubt he'd reject 10 years, $3.5 million/year.

wej20 03-25-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jag68Sid87 (Post 24720385)
Assuming the $3.5 million/year rejection is true, how many years did he reject? If we offered him a short-term deal, then it's no wonder he rejected it. I doubt he'd reject 10 years, $3.5 million/year.

would he? in 3 years he might be worth 5 million (we can dream) so it doesn't seem smart to me for him to take a 10 year deal. I'm starting to think that the best situation for both parties would be a 2 year deal at around 3 million.

JalapenoPeppa* 03-25-2010 02:52 PM

I think the Pens will first offer him a 5+ year deal, but he'll turn it down because his worth can definitely still increase. I'm guess it'll end up being 3 years for around $3.25 per.

wej20 03-25-2010 03:00 PM

How many more RFA years does Letang have left? 2 or 3?

JalapenoPeppa* 03-25-2010 03:16 PM

His contracts up this season (RFA)

wej20 03-25-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JalapenoPeppa (Post 24721371)
His contracts up this season (RFA)

yes but how many RFA years will be on his next contract. Gogo signed for 3 years and is still an RFA once his contract is up.

JTG 03-25-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jag68Sid87 (Post 24720385)
Assuming the $3.5 million/year rejection is true, how many years did he reject? If we offered him a short-term deal, then it's no wonder he rejected it. I doubt he'd reject 10 years, $3.5 million/year.

I would reject 10 years if I were him.

TopShelfGoal 03-25-2010 03:52 PM

If he doesn't sign a deal by December is he still eligible to play? Read somewhere he has to sign a deal (if he's a RFA) by December 1st.

Captain Hook 03-25-2010 03:53 PM

I like Letang, but I don't like the idea of giving him 4 million/per year. I'd offer 3 to 3. If he wants more, let him go to RFA. I'd be willing to take that gamble. If he only gets offered 3, we'd match. If somebody offers more, we'd still get a 1st and 3rd, plus we'd save 4 million in cap space to sign some D-Men.

#66 03-25-2010 04:01 PM

I like Letang and see upside but I don't see one thing he's done to deserve more than double what he makes right now.

Just to get on the same page as everyone else... what do you see his upside as?

wej20 03-25-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by #66 (Post 24722313)
I like Letang and see upside but I don't see one thing he's done to deserve more than double what he makes right now.

Just to get on the same page as everyone else... what do you see his upside as?

double what he makes right now would be 1.8? I think he's easily worth more than that .

HandshakeLine 03-25-2010 04:15 PM

I see Letang as probably a top-four D-man, at worst a #4, at best a borderline 2/3.

But really, you look at how many teams have a legit #1 blueliner, and there's not all that many. But as it is, I think he'd have a hard time convincing an arbitrator that he's worth $4 million+. His numbers (yes, I know, flawed, but that's what arbitrators look at) just aren't that great.

Actually, the more I think about it, I wonder if the Pens could get by without that overpaid Pronger/Phaneuf/Gonchar type of blueliner in the future? You know, make a more above-average blueline, but without that elite player, unless he's an organizational draftee with a sweet contract.

Captain Hook 03-25-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HandshakeLine (Post 24722595)
I think he'd have a hard time convincing an arbitrator that he's worth $4 million+. His numbers (yes, I know, flawed, but that's what arbitrators look at) just aren't that great.

Reminds me of how pissed Kaspar used to get every year when he'd go to arbitration and they wouldn't award him that much money since his numbers sucked. :laugh:

HandshakeLine 03-25-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Hook (Post 24722653)
Reminds me of how pissed Kaspar used to get every year when he'd go to arbitration and they wouldn't award him that much money since his numbers sucked. :laugh:

Hah, I remember that. And that was before the NHL really started keeping good hit stats, so he couldn't even point to those and say "look, this is what I do, and I'm good at it!":laugh:

And, as I brought up in another thread, I think there's a lot more $4 million or more can bring us in terms of the blueline. If Letang really is set on getting that much or more, he's probably not going to get it here.

I'd rather take that $4 million and use that plus some money scrimped from other parts of the roster to pull in someone more established in the top 4 role, like Volchenkov.


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