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rangerjoe 04-12-2010 05:19 PM

2010 Draft Lottery Results - Rangers Pick 10th
 
The 2010 Draft Lottery results will be announced tomorrow (Tuesday)...

In case anyone was wondering, the highest spot the Rangers can pick is #6 , and only if they win the lottery (they have a 2.1% chance of winning it). Only the top 5 teams (bottom five if you wanna look at it that way) have a shot at first overall draft pick (since the winner of the lottery drawing can only improve its draft order by up to four places). No team can drop more than one place, so Edmonton's guaranteed a top 2 pick.

There will be a total of 1,000 combinations, with Edmonton being assigned 250 combinations. As a result, they'll have a 25% chance. But since only the top five teams have a shot at first overall, they actually have a 48% chance at the first pick. Toronto will be assigned 188 combinations, and so on and so on..

The number of combinations that the Rangers will be assigned is 21 (2.1% chance).

Here are the NHL draft odds:

Edmonton - 25.0 percent
Toronto - 18.8 percent
Florida - 14.2 percent
Columbus - 10.7 percent
NY Islanders - 8.1 percent
Tampa Bay - 6.2 percent
Carolina - 4.7 percent
Atlanta - 3.6 percent
Minnesota - 2.7 percent
NY Rangers - 2.1 percent
Dallas - 1.5 percent
Anaheim - 1.1 percent
Calgary - 0.8 percent
St. Louis - 0.5 percent

LET'S GO RANGERS!

KotsyJr 04-12-2010 05:21 PM

Time for Bettman to rig it up.

#6 here we come. Lawl.

Jumbo* 04-12-2010 05:22 PM

We arent wining the lottery.

Fitzy 04-12-2010 05:22 PM

So we can very realistically end up 8th or 9th?

Jumbo* 04-12-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 25118444)
So we can very realistically end up 8th or 9th?

Not at all.

NYRMatt 04-12-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 25118444)
So we can very realistically end up 8th or 9th?

I don't see why not. I'd be happy with 8th/9th.

captain9nyr 04-12-2010 05:26 PM

I think it would be hysterical if "Toronto" (which really means Boston) wins the lottery.

Jumbo* 04-12-2010 05:27 PM

There is a 2.1% chance we move to 6.
There is a 3.9% chance we move back to 11.

There is 0% chance we move to 8 or 9.

rangerjoe 04-12-2010 05:28 PM

Don't discount it, we can win it...it wouldn't be the first time a deep team won it.

Take a look at these since the lottery started:

1995 - Los Angeles (was 7th, moved to 3rd)
1998 - Tampa Bay (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
1999 - Chicago (was 8th, moved to 4th)
2000 - NY Islanders (was 5th, moved to 1st)
2001 - Atlanta (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2002 - Florida (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2003 - Florida (was 4th, moved to 1st
2004 - Washington (was 3rd, moved to 1st)
2007 - Chicago (was 5th, moved to 1st)

Fitzy 04-12-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumbo (Post 25118558)
There is a 2.1% chance we move to 6.
There is a 3.9% chance we move back to 11.

There is 0% chance we move to 8 or 9.

Thank you.

Bluenote13 04-12-2010 05:44 PM

I'll go with Toronto(Boston) :propeller

pwoz 04-12-2010 05:47 PM

Must be nice to build your team through lottery picks instead of 1st round exits and 9/10th place finishes.

Fitzy 04-12-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwoz (Post 25119013)
Must be nice to build your team through lottery picks instead of 1st round exits and 9/10th place finishes.

Do I need to bring the NJ devils up every time this conversation begins?

Oh, and someone call up the thread that shows how teams that tank often arent the ones that have success.

N9Y4R 04-12-2010 05:50 PM

There is a 94% chance we pick 10!

rangerjoe 04-12-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N9Y4R (Post 25119056)
There is a 94% chance we pick 10!

haha...please, resist such excitement!

Tony D63 04-12-2010 06:07 PM

cant waitt!! hopefully we go down a few slots

dedalus 04-12-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 25119039)
Do I need to bring the NJ devils up every time this conversation begins?

Do I need to bring up Scott Niedermayer (3rd overall), Brendan Shanahan (2nd overall), John Maclean (6th overall), Bill Guerin (5th overall), and Kirk Muller (2nd overall) every time this conversation begins?

GAGLine 04-12-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 25119039)
Do I need to bring the NJ devils up every time this conversation begins?

Oh, and someone call up the thread that shows how teams that tank often arent the ones that have success.

Scott Stevens, 5th overall pick by Washington, 1982
Brendan Shanahan, 2nd overall pick by New Jersey, 1987
Bill Guerin, 5th overall pick by New Jersey,1989
Bobby Holik, 10th overall pick by Hartford, 1989
Scott Neidermeyer, 3rd overall pick by New Jersey, 1991
Brian Rolston, 11th overall pick by New Jersey, 1991
Jason Arnott, 7th overall pick by Edmonton, 1993

New Jersey had 3 top 5 picks in a 5 year period that all contributed in one way or another to their winning the cup. They traded Shanahan to get Stevens. Guerin and Rolston were there for the cup in 95. Neidermeyer and Stevens were both there for all 3 cups.

The devils traded Sean Burke and Eric Weinrich for Holik. Holik helped them win the cup in 95 and 2000.

Guerin and Zelepukin were traded for Arnott, with Arnott winning a cup in 2000.

Since 92, here are the devils 1st round picks:

92: Jason Smith, 18th overall
93: Denis Pederson, 13th overall
94: Vadim Sharifijanov, 25th overall
95: Petr Sykora, 18th overall
96: Lance Ward, 10th overall
97: Jean-Francois Damphousse, 24th overall
98: Mike Van Ryn, 26th overall
98: Scott Gomez, 27th overall
99: Ari Ahonen, 27th overall
00: David Hale, 22nd overall
01: Adrian Foster, 28th overall
02: N/A
03: Zach Parise, 17th overall
04: Travis Zajac, 20th overall
05: Nicklas Bergfors, 23rd overall
06: Matt Corrente, 30th overall
07: N/A
08: Mattias Tedenby, 24th overall
09: Jacob Josefson, 20th overall

There's a lot of bad picks in there, particularly between 92 and 2001. They did great picking Parise and Zajac. Bergfors looked pretty good as a rookie, but he's gone already for Kovy. And the jury is still out on Corrente, Tedenby and Josefson.

Yeah, they've been consistently one of the better teams in the league over the last 16 years, but their best players when they were winning the cup were all high draft picks (other than brodeur, who was a 20th overall pick in 1990).

Don't get me wrong, they are by far better managed than we are, but they had their share of high draft picks as well.

McDonagh 04-12-2010 08:22 PM

Not getting my hopes up for moving up, I expect we will pick 10th, or whatever number it was where we have 90+% of getting.

pwoz 04-12-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 25119039)
Do I need to bring the NJ devils up every time this conversation begins?

Oh, and someone call up the thread that shows how teams that tank often arent the ones that have success.

Lou is the exception. :sarcasm:

ChipAyten 04-12-2010 08:40 PM

So the question remains, do we trade up? If it means getting Seguin I say yes. We need a productive center and unless it's either Lundqvist or Gaborik nobody is above being traded for him IMO.

MSG the place to be* 04-12-2010 09:37 PM

Just so you all understand. IT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE NBA LOTTERY. There is one team that is the lottery winner and there is everybody else. But if you win the lottery you dont get first pick, you move up 4 spots from your original spot.

Therefore, we can only pick 6th, 10th or 11th.

6th is if we win the lottery
11th is if a team behind us wins the lottery and therefore moves up 4 spots and passes us (ie. Dallas Stars currently in 11th win the lottery giving them the 7th pick)
10th if a team in the top 9 wins the lottery

dedalus 04-12-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAGLine (Post 25120252)
Scott Stevens, 5th overall pick by Washington, 1982
Brendan Shanahan, 2nd overall pick by New Jersey, 1987
Bill Guerin, 5th overall pick by New Jersey,1989
Bobby Holik, 10th overall pick by Hartford, 1989
Scott Neidermeyer, 3rd overall pick by New Jersey, 1991
Brian Rolston, 11th overall pick by New Jersey, 1991
Jason Arnott, 7th overall pick by Edmonton, 1993

New Jersey had 3 top 5 picks in a 5 year period that all contributed in one way or another to their winning the cup. They traded Shanahan to get Stevens. Guerin and Rolston were there for the cup in 95. Neidermeyer and Stevens were both there for all 3 cups.

Add Kirk Muller to your list. The Devils drafted him 2nd overall and traded him for Stephane Richer ... the same Richer who led all Devils scorers in the '95 playoffs.

TheHotRock 04-12-2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipAyten (Post 25122551)
So the question remains, do we trade up? If it means getting Seguin I say yes. We need a productive center and unless it's either Lundqvist or Gaborik nobody is above being traded for him IMO.

obtaining a top 2 pick will require a massive overpayment.

ChipAyten 04-12-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHotRock (Post 25126296)
obtaining a top 2 pick will require a massive overpayment.

MDZ & a conditional, bam done deal. Boston would love an O-Dman


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