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HockeyFan4Life 05-14-2010 08:12 AM

Edmonton Oilers promising top talent for OKC
 
Edmonton Oilers general manager Steve Tambellini says Oklahoma Citys AHL team will see lots of the organizations top young talent.

Perfect_Drug 05-14-2010 08:17 AM

:D yay!


One mistake I thinkkk... (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but wouldn't Hall and Seguin would have to go back to jr if they don't crack the big roster.

jumptheshark 05-14-2010 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect_Drug (Post 25813095)
:D yay!


One mistake I thinkkk... (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but wouldn't Hall and Seguin would have to go back to jr if they don't crack the big roster.

yep

and my guess Omark and the other europeans would rather return home then spend time on the farm

JEff petry will go there so

this is almost the same thing Lowe said to springfeild

HockeyFan4Life 05-14-2010 08:22 AM

I wouldn't put too much stock into Hall or Seguin being in OKC. Maybe only for a reconditioning stint.

VelvetJones 05-14-2010 08:46 AM

I don't think they could go to the AHL anyway because of age. NHL or back to Jr.

yukoner88 05-14-2010 08:58 AM

"This year’s top overall draft pick, which will be either Tyler Seguin or Taylor Hall, could also play in Oklahoma City this fall."

CMAC is right, I dont think the writer did much research for the article.

HockeyFan4Life 05-14-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by yukoner88 (Post 25813550)

CMAC is right, I dont think the writer did much research for the article.

That's our local newspaper for ya.

hemskyhemskyhemsky* 05-14-2010 09:04 AM

Who I'd like to see:

Petry, Plante, Vande Velde, Cornet.

Europeans: (crossing fingers)

Rajala, Hartikainen, Lander, MPS, Omark

All of which need to be brought over. MPS and Lander could stay in the SEL, but the transition to the NA style play wouldn't hurt. Plus, the smaller players like Omark and Rajala need to be seen in the NA type play. Maybe they won't be able to translate their games due to their size. And Hartikainen is the one definite player who would benefit from coming over. He's already establishing himself as a physical player who can put pucks in the back of the net. I'm really hoping we sign him for one, but bring him over immediately.

CupofOil 05-14-2010 09:07 AM

I will eat my hat if Hall ends up in OKC but Seguin could since he's not as polished as Hall and i hope that MPS plays there, that would be ideal. As for Eberle, i think one more season in the AHL can only be beneficial for his development so if we have Seguin, MPS, Eberle and Petry or MPS, Eberle and Petry playing for The Barons (love that name) i think that would be a great organizational move.

hemskyhemskyhemsky* 05-14-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CupofOil (Post 25813649)
I will eat my hat if Hall ends up in OKC but Seguin could since he's not as polished as Hall and i hope that MPS plays there, that would be ideal. As for Eberle, i think one more season in the AHL can only be beneficial for his development so if we have Seguin, MPS, Eberle and Petry or MPS, Eberle and Petry playing for The Barons (love that name) i think that would be a great organizational move.

If Eberle shows his stuff with the Big Boys at the WC, I'll put a bet on him making the big squad this fall.

joestevens29 05-14-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jumptheshark (Post 25813135)
yep

and my guess Omark and the other europeans would rather return home then spend time on the farm

JEff petry will go there so

this is almost the same thing Lowe said to springfeild

It was my understanding based on how everything is structured that Omark would at least give the AHL a shot if asked.

As a whole if the guys that are suppose to be in the AHL stay in the AHL then things should be better. But if like last season injuries start piling up and we start taking all of the top players from OKC then we are back to square one.

joestevens29 05-14-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CupofOil (Post 25813649)
I will eat my hat if Hall ends up in OKC but Seguin could since he's not as polished as Hall and i hope that MPS plays there, that would be ideal. As for Eberle, i think one more season in the AHL can only be beneficial for his development so if we have Seguin, MPS, Eberle and Petry or MPS, Eberle and Petry playing for The Barons (love that name) i think that would be a great organizational move.

I'll eat that hat too because Hall and Seguin can't play in OKC. Only way is if their Junior team is no longer playing. It's either NHL or OHL for those two next year.

BattleGuy 05-14-2010 10:55 AM

Hall/Seguin cannot play for OKC until their respective junior teams are elimiated from the OHL playoffs. It's NHL or CHL. The reported also stated that Eberle was our 1st round pick last year. Which also isn't true.

BattleGuy 05-14-2010 10:55 AM

Hall/Seguin cannot play for OKC until their respective junior teams are elimiated from the OHL playoffs. It's NHL or CHL. The reporter also stated that Eberle was our 1st round pick last year. Which also isn't true.

Master Lok 05-14-2010 11:14 AM

I wouldn't put any stock into this article. My problems with this article:

1) Obviously the writer doesn't know the NHL rules if he's suggesting Hall/Seguin can play in the AHL next season. They can't, unless they get sent back to the OHL and their OHL teams miss the playoffs.
2) The Oilers first round pick was not Eberle.
3) The Oilers gave the same spiel in previous years to Springfield about bringing in more talent and being a more competitive team than the previous NHL affiliate - the Tampa Bay Lightning.

Reimer 05-14-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hemskyhemskyhemsky (Post 25813613)
Who I'd like to see:

Petry, Plante, Vande Velde, Cornet.

Europeans: (crossing fingers)

Rajala, Hartikainen, Lander, MPS, Omark

All of which need to be brought over. MPS and Lander could stay in the SEL, but the transition to the NA style play wouldn't hurt. Plus, the smaller players like Omark and Rajala need to be seen in the NA type play. Maybe they won't be able to translate their games due to their size. And Hartikainen is the one definite player who would benefit from coming over. He's already establishing himself as a physical player who can put pucks in the back of the net. I'm really hoping we sign him for one, but bring him over immediately.

Rajala defintiely won't be there as he has to return to Finland for hockey. That was part of his agreement for playing in the dub last year.

hemskyhemskyhemsky* 05-14-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Reimer (Post 25816116)
Rajala defintiely won't be there as he has to return to Finland for hockey. That was part of his agreement for playing in the dub last year.

Lame.

Reimer 05-14-2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Master Lok (Post 25815842)
I wouldn't put any stock into this article. My problems with this article:

1) Obviously the writer doesn't know the NHL rules if he's suggesting Hall/Seguin can play in the AHL next season. They can't, unless they get sent back to the OHL and their OHL teams miss the playoffs.
2) The Oilers first round pick was not Eberle.
3) The Oilers gave the same spiel in previous years to Springfield about bringing in more talent and being a more competitive team than the previous NHL affiliate - the Tampa Bay Lightning.

I wouldn't put much stock into what your saying if your trying to say that Eberle wasn't the Oilers first round pick.

Reimer 05-14-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hemskyhemskyhemsky (Post 25816132)
Lame.

I suppose but those are the rules. We have a plethora of prospects that are "making the jump" this coming season. A guy like Rajala can come along in a couple seasons when his contractual obligations are up in Finalnd. It has something to do wirth the military over there or something. SK or Bugg could shed more insight into this, I know I have read about this several times in the prospects thread.

dawgbone 05-14-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Reimer (Post 25816116)
Rajala defintiely won't be there as he has to return to Finland for hockey. That was part of his agreement for playing in the dub last year.

Is it the cumpulsory military service?

enthropi 05-14-2010 11:57 AM

So I guess this means they are re-signing JFJ and Pouliot? :sarcasm:

joestevens29 05-14-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by enthropi (Post 25816663)
So I guess this means they are re-signing JFJ and Pouliot? :sarcasm:

If you re-signed those guys to play in the AHL they would be perfect down there. Would add alot.

Reimer 05-14-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgbone (Post 25816256)
Is it the cumpulsory military service?

I'm not 100% sure of the exact agreement, that is why I was hoping that Bugg of SK would stop by and say or anyone else who knows Rajala's deal for sure.

Oilerdiehard 05-14-2010 12:50 PM

Thanks for posting that. He never really promised anything specific in those quotes. Though he has said many times that players starting out in the AHL is can be an important step. Obviously most or many pro players play at least some significant time in the AHL. You could even look at our team last season and see guys like Gilbert Brule, Ryan Whitney, Tom Gilbert, Robert Nilsson, Fernando Pisani, Patrick O'Sullivan, Dustin Penner and more recently Ryan Potulny, Theo Peckham, Taylor Chorney, Ryan Jones, Ryan Stone etc... all put in a little or a lot of AHL time before hitting the NHL (semi) regularly.

That is not to say they will not try their best to have the best young Oil prospects available playing in OKC. As well as adding key AHL vets is going to be important. Both the owner and Tambellini have mentioned OKC and the AHL as an important step going forward. Not something I recall any other year in the season end speeches and interviews. So it would seem they are planning to try and do a good job there.

As so many others have said there will be no Hall/Seguin there in the near future.

joestevens29 05-14-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilerdiehard (Post 25817654)
Thanks for posting that. He never really promised anything specific in those quotes. Though he has said many times that players starting out in the AHL is can be an important step. Obviously most or many pro players play at least some significant time in the AHL. You could even look at our team last season and see guys like Gilbert Brule, Ryan Whitney, Tom Gilbert, Robert Nilsson, Fernando Pisani, Patrick O'Sullivan, Dustin Penner and more recently Ryan Potulny, Theo Peckham, Taylor Chorney, Ryan Jones, Ryan Stone etc... all put in a little or a lot of AHL time before hitting the NHL (semi) regularly.

That is not to say they will not try their best to have the best young Oil prospects available playing in OKC. As well as adding key AHL vets is going to be important. Both the owner and Tambellini have mentioned OKC and the AHL as an important step going forward. Not something I recall any other year in the season end speeches and interviews. So it would seem they are planning to try and do a good job there.

As so many others have said there will be no Hall/Seguin there in the near future.

I suspect that the Oilers could/should go after a few guys like they did last year with Minard and Arsene.


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