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Systemfel 05-23-2010 03:42 PM

Tournament Awards & All-Star Team
 

Systemfel 05-23-2010 03:46 PM

Vokoun for best goalie and Datsyuk for best F, IMO.

zecke26 05-23-2010 03:50 PM

endras best goalie and MVP
dats best forward
nummelin best D

that's what they said on german tv

gmaledotcom 05-23-2010 03:52 PM

Vokoun best goalie and MVP by far. Datsyuk forward. D I have no idea since I didn't watch every game.

WeberStreit 05-23-2010 03:59 PM

Lol at best goalie and MVP for Endras. He didn't even play half of the games for Germany...

olliho 05-23-2010 04:01 PM

After the Finale Vokoun should have das the MVP, but it was decided befor the Final.

Sanderson 05-23-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zecke26 (Post 25963900)
endras best goalie and MVP
dats best forward
nummelin best D

that's what they said on german tv

Yup, and this is supposed to be the allstar team:

G Endras
D Nummelin
D Ehrhoff
F Datsyuk
F Malkin
F xxx (can't remember at all who was the third forward)


Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964139)
Lol at best goalie and MVP for Endras. He didn't even play half of the games for Germany...

How so?
Germany played nine games, Endras played 6 of them. I don't know about you, but to me that's easily more than half the games.

ts 05-23-2010 04:03 PM

I would have handed best goalie to Endras (good in all his games and premier stats), but MVP should have been Vokoun, he won all the important games for his team.

But whatever the latter is to busy to celebrate the gold :)

zecke26 05-23-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanderson (Post 25964202)
Yup, and this is supposed to be the allstar team:

G Endras
D Nummelin
D Ehrhoff
F Datsyuk
F Malkin
F xxx (can't remember at all who was the third forward)

MPS maybe? i heard his name.

olliho 05-23-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964139)
Lol at best goalie and MVP for Endras. He didn't even play half of the games for Germany...

so he doesn`t deserve it? 97% Save% and 0,98 GAA in 5 Games.

ts 05-23-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanderson (Post 25964202)
Yup, and this is supposed to be the allstar team:

G Endras
D Nummelin
D Ehrhoff
F Datsyuk
F Malkin
F xxx (can't remember at all who was the third forward)

Swedens Pääjärvi-Svensson is the 3rd forward

Frank Bascombe 05-23-2010 04:05 PM

Two Germans in the all star team? That doesn't feel right.

Sanderson 05-23-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Bascombe (Post 25964268)
Two Germans in the all star team? That doesn't feel right.

Unlike the best players per position and the MVP, the allstar team is voted on by the media. Since the tournament was played in Germany, there may have been a bit of a bias because of more German journalists voting (if that's true).


I have no idea how anyone could say that Endras winning best goalie is something to laugh about. He had easily the best stats, and that's while playing for Germany!
Vokoun would have been a good choice as well, and maybe even the better choice as MVP, but then again, Germany reaching the semis came completely out of nowhere, and they kept up with any team they faced, that always gets you a boost in those votings. Not to mention that it was voted on before the final, so Vokoun didn't have the advantage of that big win.

olliho 05-23-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Bascombe (Post 25964268)
Two Germans in the all star team? That doesn't feel right.

Yeah thats a bit too much, Ehrhoff was great for the Team but thats it. They should have picked a Czech instead of him. But Endras is ok, over all the tournament he was the best Keeper, not only because he has bye far the best Stats.

Rexor 05-23-2010 04:17 PM

No Czech... :help:

JVR 05-23-2010 04:23 PM

Is it that hard to understand that this was decided before the final.

Who cares about this anyway?

dfk711* 05-23-2010 04:24 PM

Nummelin is like fine wine, he gets better with age

WeberStreit 05-23-2010 04:24 PM

Endras didn't play one game against Russia (Germany played them twice). If you just let him play against "weaker" teams, that's not really good for a MVP. Plus, Voukun was the MVP of the best team in the tournament, so that should have been a no-brainer.

ViD 05-23-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexor (Post 25964492)
No Czech... :help:

agreed. Gold medal winners gotta make the all star team.

Hawkguy 05-23-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964139)
Lol at best goalie and MVP for Endras. He didn't even play half of the games for Germany...

After todays game;

6 GP, 1.15 GAA, .961 SV%.

Pretty incredible numbers.

Systemfel 05-23-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964607)
Endras didn't play one game against Russia (Germany played them twice). If you just let him play against "weaker" teams, that's not really good for a MVP. Plus, Voukun was the MVP of the best team in the tournament, so that should have been a no-brainer.

Exactly. I thought Rolinek could have had Malkin's spot too. Four goals and great two-way play.

Sanderson 05-23-2010 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964607)
Endras didn't play one game against Russia (Germany played them twice). If you just let him play against "weaker" teams, that's not really good for a MVP. Plus, Voukun was the MVP of the best team in the tournament, so that should have been a no-brainer.

So?
He did play against Sweden, the USA, the strong Danes and the superior Swiss, that's more than enough quality.

Being MVP of the winner doesn't automatically make you overall MVP. Else you could end up with one player carrying a surprise team all alone to the final, while a better team went on to win with no one really standing out. Obviously the player who carried the weak team was much more valuable than the MVP of the eventual winner. Not saying that this is what happened here, but it shows that you logic is flat out wrong.

Maybe Vokoun should have been named MVP, but as was already mentioned, voting was done before the final and Vokoun didn't have a good preliminary round.

omaha82 05-23-2010 04:42 PM

Endras won the quarter final. He showed some incredible saves, especially vs the US he had two very artistic moments. Since the team is voted together by the media beauty does count :) He deserved it. Ehrhoff is surprising. He played a great tournament though, his 2-1 score vs russia in the first game gave his team the moral for the rest of the tournament.

olliho 05-23-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964607)
Endras didn't play one game against Russia (Germany played them twice). If you just let him play against "weaker" teams, that's not really good for a MVP. Plus, Voukun was the MVP of the best team in the tournament, so that should have been a no-brainer.

he played all the important Games, he played the "Auf Schalke" Game against the US, he played Denmark to avoid Relegation Round, he played Belarus,the Slovaks ,the Quater Final Swiss and the Bronze Game against Sweden.

He did not play the Semi against Russia, that was the only important Game where he was not in Goal.

Bubba88 05-23-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeberStreit (Post 25964607)
Endras didn't play one game against Russia (Germany played them twice). If you just let him play against "weaker" teams, that's not really good for a MVP. Plus, Voukun was the MVP of the best team in the tournament, so that should have been a no-brainer.

still mad that you lost against him :laugh:



Endras deserves it. look at his numbers and don't forget that Germany was happy to reach the quarter finals


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