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MSG the place to be* 06-30-2010 11:05 AM

Messier on WFAN this morning
 
Question: Is it fair to say you don't like Tortorella?

Answer: "I like Tortorella, I think he's a great coach. I don't think there are many guys who could have coached this team to the success we had last year."



Future GM or Future Mental Patient???


Edit: The interview is available on wfan.com, however it mostly talks about when Messier came to NY and how it relates to Lebron maybe wanting to come as well.

I Am Chariot 06-30-2010 11:08 AM

Was he laughing?


By the way I am of the camp that FULLY EXPECTS Messier to be the next GM of the NY Rangers. It will be Sathers final move....

I also think he earned a shot. He said he'd win the cup. He delivered. He says "I will be a great GM", he gets the opportunity.

I am intriqued to see what a franchise led by Messier would look like, be expected to play like, evolve into....

rangerfan_79 06-30-2010 11:09 AM

either mess is delusional or he needs to raise the bar on what he deems successful. :shakehead

frankthefrowner 06-30-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 26623757)
Question: Is it fair to say you don't like Tortorella?

Answer: "I like Tortorella, I think he's a great coach. I don't think there are many guys who could have coached this team to the success we had last year."



Future GM or Future Mental Patient???

Sounds like he's laying the blame on the right person, Glen Sather...Which kind of shocks me. Sather gave him a mish mosh of players and said make this work. It didnt but torts coach this awful roster to 1 point within the playoffs.

OverTheCap 06-30-2010 11:09 AM

I think he's right concerning the fact that there are not many coaches that could have coached the team to success last year.

Does that mean Messier will be a good GM? Not at all.

Kovalev27 06-30-2010 11:10 AM

what else did he say?

Jumbo* 06-30-2010 11:14 AM

Was that the only question they asked him?

Glen Teflon Sather 06-30-2010 11:15 AM

Not for nothing but what did you think he was going to say, "I hate the guy"? No, he's going to say all the right politically correct things.

azrok22 06-30-2010 11:16 AM

It's on WFAN's website if you want to listen.

I just started listening... all they've asked him about is Lebron James so far. :laugh: I'm a few minutes in.

EDIT: Halfway through the interview, still only about Lebron and why Messier came to NY (relating that to convincing Lebron to come).

ogie 06-30-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 26623757)
Question: Is it fair to say you don't like Tortorella?

Answer: "I like Tortorella, I think he's a great coach. I don't think there are many guys who could have coached this team to the success we had last year."

Future GM or Future Mental Patient???

what is he supposed to say ? he is an employee of the NYRangers he can't just go off and bad mouth the teams coach. Once he is the GM ..then he can bad mouth the coach. Until then he bites his lip and is a team player.

Levitate 06-30-2010 11:20 AM

that's a stupid question.

has messier ever indicated he doesn't like Tortorella?

Kovalev27 06-30-2010 11:22 AM

this carton guy is a total a$$

dtrap 06-30-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerfan_79 (Post 26623820)
either mess is delusional or he needs to raise the bar on what he deems successful. :shakehead

Did you even look into the context of the quote? Mess was saying that he didn't think another coach would have even gotten us to where we were...

azrok22 06-30-2010 11:24 AM

Ok: 2/3 of the way into the interview they've finally gone to Rangers. They asked him (verbatim):

Q: Will Shelley be re-signed?
A: Hard to say, they're in the middle of it now. Great team player. Great guy. Want to bring him back. [Hosts urged him to re-sign Shelley, to which he responded again that Sather was working on it and it was urgent given the timing.]

Q: What are we going to do with Gaborik? How does Gaborik not shoot in the shootout against the Flyers?
A: Gabs was the sole reason that the Rangers were close to the playoffs (then backtracked, not sole reason).

Q: As a guy who played for Keenan, what do you think of Torts? You don't like him right? [EDIT: the question couldn't have been more loaded if they tried; total hate for Torts by the questioner - Messier really couldn't have answered any other way, imo.]
A: Likes Torts. Think he's a great coach. Not a lot of guys could coach the team to the success we had last year. Demanding, but he's won before... coaching is not an easy profession... has a lot of respect for Torts and no problem with him coaching this team.

Q: Do you ever see yourself coaching?
A: Could be very satisfying... turning young guys into professionals... won't rule out anything.

Then they turned toward asking him if he'd like to join their softball team. :shakehead

EDIT: So if you're not a Knicks fan and are listening, skip 2/3 of the way in to avoid the Lebron questions.

I Am Chariot 06-30-2010 11:25 AM

Boomers a good fan... he's got to get something for us

I Am Chariot 06-30-2010 11:27 AM

They don't ask about Kovalchuk?

weird

azrok22 06-30-2010 11:28 AM

Hockey was definitely an afterthought during the interview. Went like this:

Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Rangers
Rangers
Softball

I hate NY sports radio. If you want to talk basketball, call up Patrick Ewing.

MSG the place to be* 06-30-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogie (Post 26624010)
what is he supposed to say ? he is an employee of the NYRangers he can't just go off and bad mouth the teams coach. Once he is the GM ..then he can bad mouth the coach. Until then he bites his lip and is a team player.

It wasn't a hard hitting interview trying to analyze the 2009-2010 NYR. Mess could have said anything as long as it made sense. What he said was just not sensible and I'm surprised Carton didnt say "what the hell are you talking about, the Rangers sucked."

How about Mess just say...

Mess: "We struggled last year but Tortorella brought along a few rookies very nicely like Michael Del Zotto who was just named to the all-rookie team. Our other young players also took the next step like Marc Staal who is becoming a star and Ryan Callahan who is becoming a real leader and represented the US in the olympics. We are gonna continue to develop the youth and rely on Torts to build a winning team."


The question wasnt even asking him to analyze the job Torts did. Carton just was taking a shot at Torts like he usually does, thats why the question was posed as a leading question. Mess just gave a strange answer.

NYROrtsFan 06-30-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levitate (Post 26624097)
that's a stupid question.

has messier ever indicated he doesn't like Tortorella?

This is what I want to know. It just seems totally out of nowhere.

I Am Chariot 06-30-2010 11:32 AM

Maybe Sather said "no Kovalchuk questions". Just go on and Dance...just mention the Lebrahn guy or this Jaba fellow and you'll be a hit

allstar3970 06-30-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 26624339)
It wasn't a hard hitting interview trying to analyze the 2009-2010 NYR. Mess could have said anything as long as it made sense. What he said was just not sensible and I'm surprised Carton didnt say "what the hell are you talking about, the Rangers sucked."

How about Mess just say...

Mess: "We struggled last year but Tortorella brought along a few rookies very nicely like Michael Del Zotto who was just named to the all-rookie team. Our other young players also took the next step like Marc Staal who is becoming a star and Ryan Callahan who is becoming a real leader and represented the US in the olympics. We are gonna continue to develop the youth and rely on Torts to build a winning team."


The question wasnt even asking him to analyze the job Torts did. Carton just was taking a shot at Torts like he usually does, thats why the question was posed as a leading question. Mess just gave a strange answer.

Mess probably just wanted to end the discussion since he knows Carton would bait him further.

MSG the place to be* 06-30-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrok22 (Post 26624322)
Hockey was definitely an afterthought during the interview. Went like this:

Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Lebron
Rangers
Rangers
Softball

I hate NY sports radio. If you want to talk basketball, call up Patrick Ewing.


Boomer and Carton provide great, often hilarious, radio. They self-proclaim that they dont "break down sports" like the mid day show and Francesa's afternoon show. They try to have fun and provide entertainment. Carton is not a hockey fan. Boomer has Rangers season tickets and attends frequently but I wouldnt call him extremely knowledgeable.

If you haven't been paying attention, Messier has been part of the whole promotional push by MSG/Knicks/Dolan/Walsh to get Lebron to come to NY.

Once again if your looking for a scouting report of Dylan McIlrath your not gonna get it in a million years listening to B & C but that doesnt mean its a bad interview. Their target audience isnt HFBoards' Rangers fans.

allstar3970 06-30-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 26624508)
Boomer and Carton provide great, often hilarious, radio. They self-proclaim that they dont "break down sports" like the mid day show and Francesa's afternoon show. They try to have fun and provide entertainment. Carton is not a hockey fan. Boomer has Rangers season tickets and attends frequently but I wouldnt call him extremely knowledgeable.

If you haven't been paying attention, Messier has been part of the whole promotional push by MSG/Knicks/Dolan/Walsh to get Lebron to come to NY.

Once again if your looking for a scouting report of Dylan McIlrath your not gonna get it in a million years listening to B & C but that doesnt mean its a bad interview. Their target audience isnt HFBoards' Rangers fans.

Carton is the typical "LOOK AT HOW EDGY I AM" unfunny, attention grabbing radio guy. It's like he was created from a template.

I Am Chariot 06-30-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSG the place to be (Post 26624508)
Boomer and Carton provide great, often hilarious, radio. They self-proclaim that they dont "break down sports" like the mid day show and Francesa's afternoon show. They try to have fun and provide entertainment. Carton is not a hockey fan. Boomer has Rangers season tickets and attends frequently but I wouldnt call him extremely knowledgeable.

If you haven't been paying attention, Messier has been part of the whole promotional push by MSG/Knicks/Dolan/Walsh to get Lebron to come to NY.

Once again if your looking for a scouting report of Dylan McIlrath your not gonna get it in a million years listening to B & C but that doesnt mean its a bad interview. Their target audience isnt HFBoards' Rangers fans.

Well and good, but NHL Free agency begins tomorrow at Noon

MSG the place to be* 06-30-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chariot (Post 26624601)
Well and good, but NHL Free agency begins tomorrow at Noon

Guess the percentage of radio listeners who care?

Not the same as the percentage of HF users who care I'll put it that way.


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