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Burke's Evil Spirit 07-06-2010 07:38 AM

Canucks Re-Sign D Shane O'Brien to 1-Year Deal, $1.6m (accepted QO)
 
http://twitter.com/capgeek/status/17864009983

1 year, $1.6 million.

We now have 9 defensemen on one-way contracts for a combined cap hit of $23.7 million.

Wilch 07-06-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Burke's Evil Spirit (Post 26772530)
http://twitter.com/capgeek/status/17864009983

1 year, $1.6 million.

We now have 9 defensemen on one-way contracts for a combined cap hit of $23.7 million.

Bye bye Bieksa, whether it's for Filatov or a puu-puu platter of AHL players.

wahoyaho 07-06-2010 08:11 AM

I wonder what our final line up will be like

CM- 07-06-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilch (Post 26772598)
Bye bye Bieksa, whether it's for Filatov or a puu-puu platter of AHL players.

Eh I think both Bieksa and SOB will be out of town by the start of training camp (would love it Bieksa+ went for Filatov). As SOB has had some issues and we could probably either go with Alberts/Rome and shelter their minutes and be effective.

Balls Mahoney 07-06-2010 09:04 AM

Hooray for another season of the big mick. :yo:

Wilch 07-06-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CM- (Post 26773046)
Eh I think both Bieksa and SOB will be out of town by the start of training camp (would love it Bieksa+ went for Filatov). As SOB has had some issues and we could probably either go with Alberts/Rome and shelter their minutes and be effective.

I don't think it's necessary to move both of them out of town really. Bieksa makes the most sense because he's a top 4 guy most effective paired with a good shutdown defenseman. Like I said before, his salary won't make any sense if he's playing in the third pairing. Either way, clearing 3.75m off our cap is sufficient enough to re-sign Raymond and add other pieces along the way. I'm also in favour of keeping Alberts too, because I think he could play decently as a 6/7 guy if he's given the time to adapt to the Canuck's system.

Keeping a 6th defenseman until the trade deadline and use him as a trade piece if anyone we could use becomes available would be great.

NYVanfan 07-06-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CM- (Post 26773046)
Eh I think both Bieksa and SOB will be out of town by the start of training camp (would love it Bieksa+ went for Filatov). As SOB has had some issues and we could probably either go with Alberts/Rome and shelter their minutes and be effective.

can you trade a guy after he signs a QO?
I am intrigued by the Filatov idea too, but not sure how good a fit he'd be for this team.. I still covet Andrew Ladd, we need guys like him for the bottom 6

So our D depth is now something like

Ballard-Erhoff
Edler-Hamhuis
Salo-Bieksa
SOB-Rome
Alberts

I guess how much Raymond & Hansen get awarded will determine how we can re-deploy Bieksa's (and Alberts', one hopes) salaries for depth players.

FruityPants3* 07-06-2010 09:41 AM

That's one million for every fight.

Ajackalit 07-06-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FruityPants3 (Post 26773695)
That's one million for every fight.

1.6 million for every fight.....

Jack Tripper 07-06-2010 09:49 AM

o'brien in a 5th-6th d-man role is perfectly fine by me

with ballard and hamhuis presumably healthy all year o'brien won't have any more illusions of grandeur

Dana Murzyn 07-06-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NYVanfan (Post 26773301)
So our D depth is now something like

Ballard-Erhoff
Edler-Hamhuis
Salo-Bieksa
SOB-Rome
Alberts

That's Mariana Trench deep.

Some part of me wants Gillis to keep all of the defensemen. Just keep 'em all. That way, when the Canucks Playoff Curse arrives, and 30% of our defence gets wiped out by injury, there's a good chance some quality players will remain standing.

sticknrink 07-06-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana Murzyn (Post 26773876)
That's Mariana Trench deep.

Some part of me wants Gillis to keep all of the defensemen. Just keep 'em all. That way, when the Canucks Playoff Curse arrives, and 30% of our defence gets wiped out by injury, there's a good chance some quality players will remain standing.

Nah, the canucks curse implies that if we carry 9nhl dmen, wed just have season ending injuries to the twins, kesler, burrows, sammuelsson and raymond.

Dana Murzyn 07-06-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sticknrink (Post 26774071)
Nah, the canucks curse implies that if we carry 9nhl dmen, wed just have season ending injuries to the twins, kesler, burrows, sammuelsson and raymond.

There's gotta be a loophole somewhere.

Mr. Canucklehead 07-06-2010 10:18 AM

1.) Dan Hamhuis - $4.5m
2.) Keith Ballard - $4.2m
3.) Kevin Bieksa - $3.75m
4.) Sami Salo - $3.5m
5.) Alexander Edler - $3.25m
6.) Christian Ehrhoff - $3.1m
7.) Shane O'Brien - $1.6m
8.) Andrew Alberts - $1.05m
9.) Aaron Rome - $750,000

Total: $25,700,000

I agree, part of me really likes that depth on defense, but someone's gonna go.

EDIT: I should also add that in a bottom pairing role, I quite like SOB as a player. The question is whether or not he's really committed to this team and to winning. If there's questions about that, he should be shipped out IMO. If there are not, then keep him and ditch Alberts.

lush 07-06-2010 10:22 AM

I wonder when Mitchell will get signed... :sarcasm:

But seriously, last year we started the season with 8 defenders and had to trade for Alberts at the deadline. Could it be that bad again this year? Granted Mathieu Schneider was a complete joke so had that situation not happened perhaps we'd have been fine.

Reign Nateo 07-06-2010 10:24 AM

O'Brien is decent in a limited role, just turns into a turd when he's relied on too much. He's a good teammate and guys seem to love him. He accepted the QO, so he obviously wants to be a Canuck. He'll likely have a much better defensive partenar than he has been paired with (Salo?) and should be a solid contributor.

Bieksa still looks like the odd man out to me. Keep everyone else.

Mr. Canucklehead 07-06-2010 10:26 AM

Personally, I think two bodies will be trimmed from that list. Most likely candidates are Bieksa and one of O'Brien or Alberts, depending on who the team feels can help them more. Rome will be the 7th D-Man and we will have 7 NHL calibre d-men to start the season.

If we do keep both Alberts and SOB, I could really only see Alberts sitting in the press box and not making a stink about it. I don't think SOB would take being a 7th/8th guy too well given his past transgressions.

The Big Foot 07-06-2010 10:26 AM

I'm in favor of giving SOB every opportunity to be the 6th Dman again this year, with a strong push from Rome and Alberts. If he can figure out how to play physically he's a real asset, I always have found him to be pretty good with the puck in his own zone.
We'll see at training camp what he's done to get better. I wouldn't be surprised if he's dealt in early October.

Mr. Canucklehead 07-06-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reign Nateo (Post 26774356)
O'Brien is decent in a limited role, just turns into a turd when he's relied on too much. He's a good teammate and guys seem to love him. He accepted the QO, so he obviously wants to be a Canuck. He'll likely have a much better defensive partenar than he has been paired with (Salo?) and should be a solid contributor.

Bieksa still looks like the odd man out to me. Keep everyone else.

I believe he was paired with Bieksa for lots of last year. I like Bieksa, I like SOB, but that pairing was just an accident waiting to happen.

Shareefruck 07-06-2010 10:29 AM

I actually like O'Brien alot as a limited defensemen who can randomly step up well beyond what you'd expect every once in a while. Best case scenario for the #6 spot, IMO.

Cocoa Crisp 07-06-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shareefruck (Post 26774445)
I actually like O'Brien alot as a limited defensemen who can randomly step up well beyond what you'd expect every once in a while. Best case scenario for the #6 spot, IMO.

Completely agree. Trade Bieksa and Alberts. SOB as our #6, Rome #7, Sweatt or somesuch as #8.

... that is, unless we can somehow retain Mitchell. Then it's sayanara to SOB, Bieksa and probably also Alberts.

CCF23 07-06-2010 11:02 AM

Get rid of Bieksa and Alberts and that's the best rebuild of the defense any of us could've hoped for this Summer.

TheUnrealEngine 07-06-2010 11:03 AM

Kind of off topic, but how does capgeek report this before other media?

NFITO 07-06-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lush (Post 26774301)
I wonder when Mitchell will get signed... :sarcasm:

But seriously, last year we started the season with 8 defenders and had to trade for Alberts at the deadline. Could it be that bad again this year? Granted Mathieu Schneider was a complete joke so had that situation not happened perhaps we'd have been fine.

it wasn't just Schneider - though if he didn't ask for a trade, we wouldn't have to acquire Alberts.

the problem was the lack of call-up options as well.... our only call-up options were Baumgartner, Nycholat and Oberg... and even Oberg got a call-up during the year.

This year we are stocked as far as call-up options go... Sweatt is likely the top call-up as of now, but then there's also Oberg, Tanev, Connauton and Sauve.

because of that, I can't see the team carrying 8 dmen this year... they will likely carry 7, with 5 call-up options available in Manitoba.

VanEric 07-06-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUnrealEngine (Post 26775006)
Kind of off topic, but how does capgeek report this before other media?

Considering a lot the media uses CapGeek, they probably have a NHL source sending them all these details.

SOB's QO probably isn't on the top of the list of things guys like LeBrun, Dreger, Mackenzie, etc are looking into.


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