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AZcoyotes 07-25-2010 02:44 PM

Should I trust this guy?!
 
Hey Im looking at a Ryan Miller USA jersey, for $55. It says its brand new. I looked at all his other products and they still have the tags on them, and I could see like nike logos, so i could tell they arnt rip-offs.

But Im wondering if anyone has hurd of this Website, or has bought anything from this guy possible.

http://www.ecrater.com/p/7188989/rya...lympic-jersey#

I trust the product is legit, but im scared its all stolen :shakehead

So Should I spend money on this?

EDIT: Alright, I wont spend the money on this crap. Thanks for you input guys.

Galchenyuk27 07-25-2010 02:48 PM

Tags, jerseys, anything having Nike logos on it DOES NOT mean in any way, shape, or form that it is real.

AZcoyotes 07-25-2010 03:08 PM

True, but he has pretty good reviews, and Close ups on other jerseys look authentic.... have you seen this website before?

Harv 07-25-2010 04:13 PM

I don't want to insult you, but I must say.. Are you blind?

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/153969/4...a0_153969n.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...u_1583070c.jpg

Look at the name plate on the game photo. See how the letters are below the blue?

The jersey your looking at is a Chinese knockoff made for pennies. There are tons floating out there and they sell them on a bunch of different sites. They don't know anything about hockey jerseys, just that the North American market is obsessed with jerseys in general. They look at pictures of these and try to replicate them and sell them to North Americans for hundreds of percentage markup. So alot of times the fonts and sizes are all off because they are trying to eyeball it.

Galchenyuk27 07-25-2010 04:45 PM

Even the jerseys on the official Team USA store are like that though.

http://www.shopusahockey.com/store/p...ca-Jersey.html

Notice the different blues. I can't find a picture since it's discontinued, but when it wasn't they had ones with names too and they were also like that.

That being said, it's definitely still fake.

hoonking 07-25-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PhXcoyotes (Post 27088910)
True, but he has pretty good reviews, and Close ups on other jerseys look authentic.... have you seen this website before?

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/153969/4...06_153969b.jpg

Heat McManus 07-25-2010 05:36 PM

Usually when something is too good to be true, it is. There's a lot of good counterfeits out there. Right now I don't trust a lot of the new stuff unless I'm buying from licensed dealers.

TBLfan 07-25-2010 07:56 PM

LOL, some of the worst fakes I've seen, that's just awful. These are just a step above sharpie on a walmart t-shirt.

Stripes 07-25-2010 08:19 PM

His garbage is faker than a $4 bill.

GCM 07-25-2010 09:58 PM

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/116273/4...14_116273n.jpg

Orca giveaway.

hallhopkinseberle 07-25-2010 10:39 PM

go to his house and do the trust test with him if u dont trust me dont buy it

RememberRoger* 07-25-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoonking (Post 27090278)

feel like i'm looking at one of those shrunken head apple sculptures from the 70s.

The Tikkanen 07-25-2010 11:11 PM

A lot of Nike stuff on Ebay is Chinese knock offs. It's good that you did some research before you purchased.

Razzmatazz 07-25-2010 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey995 (Post 27094493)
go to his house and do the trust test with him if u dont trust me dont buy it

Nah, don't waste the gas, not worth it. I already trust the overwhelming opinion of the HF community on this one, smart decision to get some input here first.

Halifaxhab* 07-26-2010 09:27 AM

99% of the time these guys sell knockoffs. If what you want is an authentic jersey as a keepsake, buy direct from the NHL site or retailer. But if all you want is a jersey of your favorite team, no harm in it, especially considering the price. I mean really, if you're going to wear it to games and just out of the house, which one would you rather have? The 300-400 $ "authentic" version or the 50-70$ "knock-off" version that the majority of people wouldn't notice the difference anyway.

I own both types for my favorite team and looking side by side it is very hard to tell the difference, and both are well made.

It all comes down to what you feel comfortable with and the intended use

KevFist 07-26-2010 01:16 PM

Wonder if I could pick up a Sindey Crorsbly Or an Alux Oyvechman jersey from this dude.

jacko23 07-26-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harv (Post 27089670)
I don't want to insult you, but I must say.. Are you blind?

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/153969/4...a0_153969n.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...u_1583070c.jpg

Look at the name plate on the game photo. See how the letters are below the blue?

The jersey your looking at is a Chinese knockoff made for pennies. There are tons floating out there and they sell them on a bunch of different sites. They don't know anything about hockey jerseys, just that the North American market is obsessed with jerseys in general. They look at pictures of these and try to replicate them and sell them to North Americans for hundreds of percentage markup. So alot of times the fonts and sizes are all off because they are trying to eyeball it.

if you need to question it, ignore it. "eyeballing it" is OH SO TRUE. i bought a Gaborik jersey from a less than legit website, and it was all jacked up even though the pic looked legit. it didnt fit correctly in the shoulders, the stitches were weak, and "GABORIK" on the back and "RANGERS" down the front werent placed correctly. i paid $45, but i learned not to EVER buy a jersey from a site that seems even the slightest bit shady. you shouldnt either.

hallhopkinseberle 07-26-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzmatazz (Post 27095456)
Nah, don't waste the gas, not worth it. I already trust the overwhelming opinion of the HF community on this one, smart decision to get some input here first.

true but that would be amazing if u did and funny and u will get ur answer for sure

AZcoyotes 07-26-2010 09:18 PM

Alright thanks guys, No way im buying that junk anymore!
Ill just have to go find a miller USA jersey somewhere else haha.

Stripes 07-27-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halifaxhab (Post 27098038)
99% of the time these guys sell knockoffs. If what you want is an authentic jersey as a keepsake, buy direct from the NHL site or retailer. But if all you want is a jersey of your favorite team, no harm in it, especially considering the price. I mean really, if you're going to wear it to games and just out of the house, which one would you rather have? The 300-400 $ "authentic" version or the 50-70$ "knock-off" version that the majority of people wouldn't notice the difference anyway.

I own both types for my favorite team and looking side by side it is very hard to tell the difference, and both are well made.

It all comes down to what you feel comfortable with and the intended use

You can buy a legitimate licensed replica for $130. That is what 99% of fans buy in stores. You don't need to have an on-ice authentic for $300. I collect jerseys, and while I do prefer authentic, there are deals to be had. You just have to know how to shop. Just like most people, I can't afford to fork out $130 in one shot for even a replica jersey, so I save my money! It seems to be a foreign concept in today's society. I don't buy on impulse. I put a certain amount of money away every paycheque and when I have enough for something I want for my collection, I buy it.

I was in Vancouver for the Olympics, and I could tell that at least every second Team Canada hockey jersey I saw people wearing in the streets was a counterfeit piece of crap. So no, it's not hard to tell the difference.

Nobody should feel comfortable buying a fake jersey, knowing that your money is fueling illegal labour in other countries, and aside from that, you don't know where else your money could be going.

Points to remember for people looking to buy a legitimate jersey...

-Reebok does not make authentic on-ice jerseys with names and numbers. You can only buy them blank and then have them customized with a name and number.

-All authentic on-ice jerseys are made in Canada. No exceptions. If you're getting something from overseas, claiming to be an authentic Reebok Edge jersey, it's fake. Guaranteed. Reebok produces its replica jerseys, which is the majority of what you find in stores, in Indonesia...however, nobody makes fake replica jerseys because the appeal is to have an authentic.

shoeshine boy 07-28-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stripes (Post 27127709)
You can buy a legitimate licensed replica for $130. That is what 99% of fans buy in stores. You don't need to have an on-ice authentic for $300.

my only problem with that is that ever since Reebok took over the jerseys the replicas have become cheap pieces of crap. I have several friends who have had problems with names, numbers and even shoulder patches peeling off because they are heat-pressed on rather than stitched. I miss the old days of the CCM jerseys when EVERYTHING was stitched on. those jerseys were worth saving up for. the Reebok replicas? not so much.

TBLfan 07-28-2010 11:08 AM

Yeah, I wouldn't buy an authentic jersey with a name from Reebok. The product they're putting out is just rubbish, and for the money they're asking it's just absurd.

Stripes 07-28-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeshine boy (Post 27133912)
my only problem with that is that ever since Reebok took over the jerseys the replicas have become cheap pieces of crap. I have several friends who have had problems with names, numbers and even shoulder patches peeling off because they are heat-pressed on rather than stitched. I miss the old days of the CCM jerseys when EVERYTHING was stitched on. those jerseys were worth saving up for. the Reebok replicas? not so much.

The replicas aren't too bad. I agree on the names and numbers you get if you buy from NHL.com, but you can buy a blank replica and have it customized with authentic lettering with a licensed retailer. If you take care of them, you shouldn't have an issue with the shoulder patches peeling or rubbing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBLfan (Post 27136156)
Yeah, I wouldn't buy an authentic jersey with a name from Reebok. The product they're putting out is just rubbish, and for the money they're asking it's just absurd.

Reebok does not make authentic jerseys with names and numbers for retail sale. If you want an authentic, you have to buy it blank and have it customized. Anything you see on eBay stores or any other website that claims to be an authentic jersey with a name and number is fake.

TBLfan 07-28-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stripes (Post 27144763)
Reebok does not make authentic jerseys with names and numbers for retail sale. If you want an authentic, you have to buy it blank and have it customized. Anything you see on eBay stores or any other website that claims to be an authentic jersey with a name and number is fake.

They do, but they are generic heat-pressed crap.

Stripes 07-29-2010 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBLfan (Post 27146776)
They do, but they are generic heat-pressed crap.

Those are replicas, not authentics.

Authentic = on-ice game jersey.


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