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Komarov47 07-31-2010 07:22 AM

Markstrom -> next Lundqvist?
 
Okay Markstrom is maybe one of the best prospect goalie in NHL right now. In sweden some compare him to Lundqvist in his style of play, but Markstrom is even bigger and stronger, so when can we expect to see him with the Cats jersey?

pb1300 07-31-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Big Bear (Post 27179277)
Okay Markstrom is maybe one of the best prospect goalie in NHL right now. In sweden some compare him to Lundqvist in his style of play, but Markstrom is even bigger and stronger, so when can we expect to see him with the Cats jersey?

He will be in camp with the Panthers, possibly get a preseason game in, but I wouldnt expect him until the season after next, unless Vokoun is traded at the deadline. Markstrom should be the #1 going into the 2011-12 season.

AwesomePanthers 07-31-2010 09:26 AM

Better stats than king Henke at the same age, and Markström also played on a weaker team. He has carried Brynäs for two years now and is the best goalie prospect in the world atm.

I would give him a shot this season, but looks like he will play in Rochester a season. And like PB said, hopefully he will get a chance when or if Vokoun is dealt at the deadline. IMO he is NHL ready, and I don't agree with the point that people say that he need to adjust to the NA style. To me thats ********, and he is ready. I've seen him play alot in the SEL, in the worlds third best league (after NHL and KHL).

Hip to be Square 07-31-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Big Bear (Post 27179277)
Okay Markstrom is maybe one of the best prospect goalie in NHL right now. In sweden some compare him to Lundqvist in his style of play, but Markstrom is even bigger and stronger, so when can we expect to see him with the Cats jersey?

Well, he's certainly hyped to be the next lunqvist in goal. That's for sure.

Ghoste 07-31-2010 12:53 PM

A ton of our future is practically riding on this kid to be a stud in the NHL. Whatever we need to do to have the best chance of that happening, we need to do it. Hopefully a year in Rochester helps that process.

Again, going back to that rookie camp, I would love if he owns (along with our other rookies of course) those two games against the Nashville Predator's rookies.

-ghoste

Panteras 07-31-2010 02:30 PM

yes he's expected to be the next big thing but please lets not jinx it ; )

pb1300 07-31-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoste (Post 27181335)
A ton of our future is practically riding on this kid to be a stud in the NHL. Whatever we need to do to have the best chance of that happening, we need to do it. Hopefully a year in Rochester helps that process.

Again, going back to that rookie camp, I would love if he owns (along with our other rookies of course) those two games against the Nashville Predator's rookies.

-ghoste

That is why I wouldnt be against us drafting Larsson in the next draft, if we were to pick that high. A young, talented defense in front of a elite goaltending prospect is a very good way to build a team.

FinlandPanther 07-31-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 27185900)
That is why I wouldnt be against us drafting Larsson in the next draft, if we were to pick that high. A young, talented defense in front of a elite goaltending prospect is a very good way to build a team.

i really want larsson as well. but what are we going to do if kulikov larsson and gudbranson and even markstrom make the big bucks? our forward core is going to look like crap.

RoadDoggFL 07-31-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FinlandPanther (Post 27186109)
i really want larsson as well. but what are we going to do if kulikov larsson and gudbranson and even markstrom make the big bucks? our forward core is going to look like crap.

Trade for offense...

Robert Theodorson 07-31-2010 10:43 PM

Yes. There is no evidence to prove otherwise.

RoadDoggFL 07-31-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSpeedBackstrom (Post 27187451)
Yes. There is no evidence to prove otherwise.

Umm... "sure thing" prospects have busted. There's no evidence to prove anything. He projects out to be better based on his career, but nothing can be proven until he's in his prime and it does or doesn't compare for Lundqvist's...

JP Mick 07-31-2010 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Big Bear (Post 27179277)
Okay Markstrom is maybe one of the best prospect goalie in NHL right now. In sweden some compare him to Lundqvist in his style of play, but Markstrom is even bigger and stronger, so when can we expect to see him with the Cats jersey?

1-2 years from now. He should be better than Lundqvist we hope. We are pretty stacked with goalie prospects right now which is awesome for any team. Between him Salak and Plante we are more than ready when Vokoun gets traded later this season.

Holy Jokinen 07-31-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JP Mick (Post 27187963)
1-2 years from now. He should be better than Lundqvist we hope. We are pretty stacked with goalie prospects right now which is awesome for any team. Between him Salak and Plante we are more than ready when Vokoun gets traded later this season.

Hasn't Cheverie moved up on peoples' lists since he was a Hobey Baker finalist? Or is it that the NCAA isn't exactly Pro Hockey? Either way, yeah, we seem to be set in goalie depth. But i'm definitely excited to see how Cheverie plays this year.

CanadianPantherFan 08-01-2010 12:34 AM

I like how this thread is marked SPECULATION: Fact to me a longgg time ago.

Gudbranson44 08-01-2010 03:41 AM

we're all hoping for it obviously, but remember we're the panthers and we've seen many of our top prospects end up as busts before, so we dont like to talk about this with the risk of jinxing it....

FinlandPanther 08-01-2010 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadDoggFL (Post 27187425)
Trade for offense...

who would we trade of the Dmen?

RoadDoggFL 08-01-2010 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Mick (Post 27187963)
1-2 years from now. He should be better than Lundqvist we hope. We are pretty stacked with goalie prospects right now which is awesome for any team. Between him Salak and Plante we are more than ready when Vokoun gets traded later this season.

Yup. It's guaranteed that one of them will become a top 3 goalie.

We're as ready as you can get with prospects, but don't be surprised if they don't quite fill Vokoun's shoes when he leaves. He'll be leaving pretty big ones.

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Originally Posted by FinlandPanther (Post 27189675)
who would we trade of the Dmen?

Well if they can all demand huge paydays, the one whose contract we could least handle. The one who gets us the best return in relation to the cap relief we'd get from him and what he'd contribute to the team.

It's a pretty good problem to have, man.

J17 Vs Proclamation 08-01-2010 10:07 AM

If Markstrom became as good as Vokoun, i'd be very happy. To know that you have a consistent top ten NHL goalie for the next 15 years is a position of luxury.

I don't think Markstrom will bust, but when it comes to Goaltenders you never know. You can project their tools and skills to the NHL level, but its almost impossible to project their actual production because its such an unreliable position.

Clint 08-01-2010 11:16 AM

I love this thread! Good thing we're not getting ahead of ourselves by comparing our 20 year old prospect who has never played a single NHL game to one of the best goaltenders in the world! We wouldn't want to exacerbate his young career by placing too heavy a burden on his shoulders already!

Komarov47 08-01-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pb1300 (Post 27185900)
That is why I wouldnt be against us drafting Larsson in the next draft, if we were to pick that high. A young, talented defense in front of a elite goaltending prospect is a very good way to build a team.

Larsson is NHL ready IMO. This kid is the best young swedish player right now. If you can pick high next season, i suggest to pick him, but i think he will very very high at next draft, maybe #1.

Komarov47 08-01-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Clint (Post 27190689)
I love this thread! Good thing we're not getting ahead of ourselves by comparing our 20 year old prospect who has never played a single NHL game to one of the best goaltenders in the world! We wouldn't want to exacerbate his young career by placing too heavy a burden on his shoulders already!

It's just speculation man.

joe89 08-01-2010 12:39 PM

Markström is earlier in his progress than Lundqvist was, but that doesn't mean he is sure to be better at age 22, 25 or 30. He is already an exceptional goalie but every player has their own growth curve. Typically Swedes are known as latebloomers although the new generation of players seem to break into that logic a bit. They are very comparable however and little indicates that he wouldn't take the step soon. If you are the best goaltender in SEL and is still getting better each day your chances are high.

Dread Clawz 08-01-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 27191372)
Markström is earlier in his progress than Lundqvist was, but that doesn't mean he is sure to be better at age 22, 25 or 30. He is already an exceptional goalie but every player has their own growth curve. Typically Swedes are known as latebloomers although the new generation of players seem to break into that logic a bit. They are very comparable however and little indicates that he wouldn't take the step soon. If you are the best goaltender in SEL and is still getting better each day your chances are high.

Do you know when Larsson's contract for Skelleftea runs out? Hopefully after next season if we pick him.

Laus723 08-01-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint (Post 27190689)
I love this thread! Good thing we're not getting ahead of ourselves by comparing our 20 year old prospect who has never played a single NHL game to one of the best goaltenders in the world! We wouldn't want to exacerbate his young career by placing too heavy a burden on his shoulders already!

Not sure how they're not comparable, Clint. I mean, they're paths are very similar...so far.

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 27191372)
Markström is earlier in his progress than Lundqvist was, but that doesn't mean he is sure to be better at age 22, 25 or 30. He is already an exceptional goalie but every player has their own growth curve. Typically Swedes are known as latebloomers although the new generation of players seem to break into that logic a bit. They are very comparable however and little indicates that he wouldn't take the step soon. If you are the best goaltender in SEL and is still getting better each day your chances are high.

Great post, appreciate the insights, and like the line about growth curves. Not sure I've seen it worded that way before.

Gudbranson44 08-01-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Markstrom Rules (Post 27191799)
Do you know when Larsson's contract for Skelleftea runs out? Hopefully after next season if we pick him.

there is a transfer agreement between swedish teams and the nhl now, so it doesnt matter if he's under contract or not. markstrom had just signed an extension with brynas when he signed for us


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