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Guilliam 08-31-2010 09:20 AM

Training Camp/Preseason Wishlist
 
So, since we've talked a lot about the lines of the opening day roster and the training camp is getting closer (but not soon enough), I thought we could talk about some line combos we would like to see in training camp and Preseason games.

We can go wild since veterans and rookies and prospects are often mixed up altogether and you know many combinations will be tried.
So it's mostly about players you would like to see try together or, if you're into it, you could even come up with two separate complete rosters as the team is almost always split into two for the first set of games.

Remember, it's more about what you would like to see than what you think it's gonna happen as I think trying to figure out the latter is pretty much impossible and useless for preseason given the number of possibility.

For me, I'd like to see some of these combos :

Avtsin-Desharnais-Leblanc (Would've like Kristo-Leblanc Avtsin but Kristo won't be there, will he?)

Pacioretty-Eller-Palushaj (Michigan and St-Louis connection)

Darche-Maxwell-Engqvist (I think Darche and Maxwell played together in Hamilton and 2 big wingers like that could give Maxwell some room)

Conboy-White-Schultz (ouch)

Moen-Fortier-Lapierre (pure shutdown)

Pouliot-Desharnais-Lapierre (french connection,(duh) and I think those 2 hardworkers could motivate Pouliot who would also benefit from DD's vision and playmaking ability)

Pacioretty-Eller-Leblanc (3 complete hardworking players)

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Avtsin (To see if it could work in the future if AK is let go)

Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn (I like what I saw when Pac and AK played together with Plek)


And on D, I'd like to see these :

Tinordi-Subban (just to see if it could work in the future)

Gorges-Ellis (kind of a mirror pairing as I see Ellis as a possible future Gorges)

Gorges-Carle (possible 3rd pairing for next year)


That's all I can think of at the moment...

What do you think ? Wanna play?

lillypad33 08-31-2010 09:32 AM

I want to see the following guys get some good hard long looks at training camp:

Carle
Weber
Kluberwhatever

Pacciorety
Wyman
Palushaj
Desharnais
White


To me, these are the only guys with real shots at making the team this year.
I really don't want to see the Leblanc's, Kristo's, Avtsins, or other guys who need to have some AHL (or junior ) seasoning take up time from the more legit guys.

With that being said, I believe that the following spots are locked in on the top 6
Gomez, Gionta, Pleks, Cammalleri, Kostitsyn.

One more guy is needed. I would like to see Eller, Pouliot and Boyd all give good looks in the top 6 during pre-season.

InglewoodJack 08-31-2010 09:51 AM

Aside from the regulars, I want to take a good look at (in order)
Dumont
Conboy
Engqvist
Desharnais
Weber
Carle
Avtsin
Maxwell
Fortier
Klubertanz

Guilliam 08-31-2010 02:14 PM

Well the idea was more about line combos or players you would like to see play together. But the idea doesn't seem to interest many people so...whatever

Miller Time 08-31-2010 02:24 PM

Cammilleri- Pleks- A.Kost
Pouliot- Eller- Gionta
Max Pac/Lapierre/Moen- Gomez- Boyd

or the same thing, but with Pleks/Gomez switching spots...

I really want to see Eller get a proven goal scoring vet on his wing to start the season, and with both Pleks/Gomez well suited to play on a more shut down role (and hopefully ego's willing to play a consistent third line role, + PP time), I'd prefer seeing one of them centering our bottom 6 wingers thus allowing Eller to play with better offensive wingers.

If he is the real deal, that could be our best combo... neither gomez/pleks have the pressure of putting up points to earn their next contract, so if they can buy into it, using one of them to bolster the bottom 6 while allowing Eller to benefit from the ice time/linemates of a top 6 role, assuming he's up to it, would be better than forcing him to break into the league trying to carry a line offensively.

RoyBoyCoy 08-31-2010 03:05 PM

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Eller-Avtsin
Conboy-White-Schultz
Bishop-Dumont-Wyman
??????-Fortier-Lefebvre

Spacek-Hamrlik
Weber-O'Byrne
Carle-Picard

Price
Sanford (Almost wrote Desjardins :()



Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta
Desharnais-Leblanc-Pyatt
Moen-Boyd-Lapierre
Darche-Maxwell-Palushaj

Tinordi-Subban
Gorges-Gill
Klubertanz-Nash
Henry-St. Denis

Auld
Mayer

Windymind 08-31-2010 03:08 PM

Some combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Guilliam (Post 27599565)
Well the idea was more about line combos or players you would like to see play together. But the idea doesn't seem to interest many people so...whatever


In another thread, someone mentioned something that makes me very curious:

Desharnais-Plekanek-Cammaleri

Or

Leblanc-Plekanek-Cammaleri


Otherwise, I'd love to see this for the "welcome to north-america style":

Avtsin-Gomez-Gionta


I think this could be good for Pouliot's confidence:

Pouliot-Eller-Boyd

I would really like to see:

Moen-Lapierre-Schultz

(kidding)

Jakomyte 08-31-2010 03:35 PM

I imagine that the top 2 lines will be fairly set once the season starts, so even though there might be a bit of switching, I'm not too interested in seeing different combinations of those players.

I would like to see a bunch line combinations that could end up being 3rd/4th lines for the Habs. Mix these guys together and try to find some lines that work well:

LWs:
- Moen
- Pacioretty
- Pyatt

Cs:
- Eller
- Maxwell
- Desharnais

RWs:
- Lapierre
- Darche
- White
- Palushaj

go_habs_go 08-31-2010 04:48 PM

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Avtsin
Kristo - Gomez - Gionta
Leblanc - Eller - Kostitsyn
Boyd - Pouliot - Lapierre

Actual 2010-11 lineup :P

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Lapierre
Gionta - Gomez - Boyd
Pouliot - Eller - Kostitsyn
Moen - Pyatt - White/Darche

IF one of Kostitsyn/Pouliot slack, Avtsin/Kristo come up

Stjonnypopo 08-31-2010 05:11 PM

I'm really looking forward to seeing some of these guys in the pre season... I'm hoping we get a pleasant surprise or two

Playmaker09 08-31-2010 05:27 PM

IMO Pac and Leblanc absolutely must be tried together.

We only have one (good) playmaking winger in the system and only one goalscoring center, seems like a clear fit. Could form a good 3rd line in a couple of years with Avtsin. If they progress well enough, then we might have our solution to the potential losses of AK, Gomez and Gionta just a few years later.

Horatio Caine 08-31-2010 06:54 PM

I really want to see :

Eller with Andrei K
and
Ryan White with Plekanec and Cammalleri. I simply want to know if White has some offensive potential : maybe he can be a good complement to 2 point producers adding size and grit.

Joey 08-31-2010 07:17 PM

I just hope for Pacioretty, Carle, and Weber to have made impressive strides....and for Maxwell to have made enormous strides. Also, I hope to see White tried out on various lines

CareyClutch 08-31-2010 07:25 PM

I want to see Eller on a scoring line.

Andrighetto Fabolous 08-31-2010 07:58 PM

I'd like to see what Kostitsyn could do with Eller, I think they'd make a nice combo with Eller being the playmaker and Andrei being the shooter. Would also like to see Boyd given an opportunity on one of the top lines to see if he can bring more of his offensive game out... I remember Cammalleri speaking highly of him from when they player in Calgary so if he can play the RW it might be worth while to try him out with Cam and Pleks in hopes of trying to spread out offense to three lines.

Guilliam 08-31-2010 09:32 PM

Good. There's a couple of good ideas. I'd like to see Pac with Leblanc and Eller with AK too.

Didn't they try White with Cam and Pleks last season ? I have memories of him getting a chance on the top 6...anyway, I highly doubt he's ready for that.

One thing I realized while thinking about this tread is that we are definitely thin on LH forward prospects, the result being that 'm putting Pacioretty on almost every line...

Edit : Should have said LH winger prospect...

Stradale 08-31-2010 09:40 PM

I just want Avtsin to play so well that it would be impossible to not keeping him.. but i know its very unlikely.. but you never know!

I really want Eller to have a good winger to play with, doesn't have to be Avtsin, maybe Pouliot or AK, as long as we have a good offensive top 9 since we are don't know what to expect from AK and BP.

Destoker 08-31-2010 11:27 PM

My personal wish is they give a good tryout to Desharnais with Eller and a scoring winger, that would be an interesting line.

Habruti! 09-04-2010 10:54 PM

There are few line combos that I would like to see...

Pacioretty, Eller, Lapierre
Moen, Boyd, Schultz
Pacioretty, Plekanek, Cammaleri
Pouliot, Eller, Cammaleri
Pouliot, Desharnais, Kostsitsyn
Pacioretty, Eller, Avstin
Pouliot, Leblanc, Gionta
Leblanc, Eller, Avstin

Would all be interesting combos...

Guilliam 09-05-2010 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habruti! (Post 27661508)
There are few line combos that I would like to see...

Pacioretty, Eller, Lapierre
Moen, Boyd, Schultz
Pacioretty, Plekanek, Cammaleri
Pouliot, Eller, Cammaleri
Pouliot, Desharnais, Kostsitsyn
Pacioretty, Eller, Avstin
Pouliot, Leblanc, Gionta
Leblanc, Eller, Avstin

Would all be interesting combos...

The more I think about it, the more I wish Pacioretty has a good enough camp to earn that 3rd line LW spot.

If not, that Pouliot-Desharnais-Kostitsyn line could be interesting...

BlackStar 09-05-2010 01:04 AM

Forwards:

MaxPac-Eller-Avstin
Kost-Pleks-Avstin
MaxPac-Eller-Deshernais
Max-Pac-Leblanc-Pouliot
Pouliot-Leblanc-Avstin
MaxPac-Eller-Boyd
Pyatt-Laps-Moen
White-Laps-Pyatt
Cammy-Pleks-Avstin
Cammy-Pleks-Pouliot
Gionta-Gomez-Kost
Gionta-Gomez-Avstin

Defense:

Subban-Tinordi
Markov-Tinordi
Gill-Tinordi :naughty:
Markov-Obyrne

It's not exactly certain Markov won't be ready to play in some pre-season games.

Max Levine 09-05-2010 02:53 AM

Cammy - Plek - Avtsin
Next year top line?

Boyd/MaxPac/Eller - Gomez - Gionta
As much as I'd rather have a productive 3rd line, I'd like to see what Eller could do on the wing next to G&G.

Boyd/MaxPac - Eller - AK
Trying to figure out what could be more beneficial for AK. And still preparing Pacioretty's call up.

Conboy - White - Schultz

Also curious to see Palushaj and Engqvist in any combo.

Playmaker09 09-05-2010 03:07 AM

Honestly, the only thing i don't want to see is players forced in the wrong posistions to fill a hole our GM could have easily addressed in the offseason if he wanted to. (ie. Eller (C), Pouliot (LW), Boyd (C/LW), AK (LW) - although I realise he'll likely be on the RW again - Leblanc (C).)

Max Levine 09-05-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playmaker09 (Post 27663095)
Honestly, the only thing i don't want to see is players forced in the wrong posistions to fill a hole our GM could have easily addressed in the offseason if he wanted to. (ie. Eller (C), Pouliot (LW), Boyd (C/LW), AK (LW) - although I realise he'll likely be on the RW again - Leblanc (C).)

Didn't I read somewhere that AK himself feels more comfortable on the right wing? Otherwise, I'd give him a shot next to Gomez/Gionta.

Bad Natey 09-05-2010 04:01 AM

All I want is for Desharnais to get a good look.


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