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Chainshot 09-11-2010 03:20 PM

The 2011 Pre-Draft Thread [Picks 16, 76, 106, 136, 166, 196]
 
May as well get this going earlier since we'll get to see more of this year's prime draft talent live and in person at the WJC's in December.

Obviously Khokhlachev seems an interesting kid to keep an eye on as he and Kassian have had early chemistry in Windsor.

Puddy 09-11-2010 03:33 PM

Sabres are an interesting team to watch. The last 35 draft picks have been North American. This summer, a couple of the guys they let go included Tallinder and Lydman, a couple of Europeans. New to the Sabres are Niedermayer, Leopold and Morrisonn. All of them are North American. This team is getting bigger and it's quietly replacing Europeans with North Americans. Of the imports, Vanek basically grew up in Canada and the U.S. and Hecht has been over for quite awhile now. Sekera is the only young player on the roster that isn't North American.

New Sabres Captain 09-11-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddy (Post 27736218)
Sabres are an interesting team to watch. The last 35 draft picks have been North American. This summer, a couple of the guys they let go included Tallinder and Lydman, a couple of Europeans. New to the Sabres are Niedermayer, Leopold and Morrisonn. All of them are North American. This team is getting bigger and it's quietly replacing Europeans with North Americans. Of the imports, Vanek basically grew up in Canada and the U.S. and Hecht has been over for quite awhile now. Sekera is the only young player on the roster that isn't North American.

And soon, Enroth.

Puddy 09-11-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords (Post 27736685)
And soon, Enroth.

Ironically, Enroth was the last European drafted (2006)...which brings us back to the original topic of the Sabres possible drafting of Khokhlachev. (If you think spelling Shaone Morrisonn was hard...yikes)

New Sabres Captain 09-11-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddy (Post 27739570)
Ironically, Enroth was the last European drafted (2006)...which brings us back to the original topic of the Sabres possible drafting of Khokhlachev. (If you think spelling Shaone Morrisonn was hard...yikes)

Wasn't Schutz drafted in a later round that year?

Afino 09-11-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 27736042)
May as well get this going earlier since we're a lock for a top-5 pick when Miller gets hurt


/doom and gloom'd

:laugh:

Puddy 09-11-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords (Post 27739589)
Wasn't Schutz drafted in a later round that year?

Yes. You are right. He played in Saint John of the QMJHL and I mistook that as his birthplace. And he was the last.

Since then the Sabres have drafted 22 Canadians and 11 Americans.

BackGroundMusic 09-11-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Afino (Post 27740142)
/doom and gloom'd

:laugh:

It's true, though. And if Myers has a sophomore slump....

Chainshot 09-12-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Afino (Post 27740142)
/doom and gloom'd

:laugh:

No, actually. This place is supposed to be about future hockey talk. If someone actually takes the time to look into who might be draft eligible and wants to talk about it in relation to the Sabres... why not here? Personally, with a chance to see a number of guys at the WJC's, having a January-started draft thread like last year is behind the times. Hell, active boards have three, four, five page threads on next season's crop.

BackGroundMusic 09-12-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 27742899)
No, actually. This place is supposed to be about future hockey talk. If someone actually takes the time to look into who might be draft eligible and wants to talk about it in relation to the Sabres... why not here? Personally, with a chance to see a number of guys at the WJC's, having a January-started draft thread like last year is behind the times. Hell, active boards have three, four, five page threads on next season's crop.

Who looks to be available around 13? :laugh:

Rowley Birkin 09-13-2010 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 27736042)
Khokhlachev .

I like what I have read about him - does anybody have some first hand experience of his game?

Forget the Russian thing, the 'soft' thing - if their chemistry develops and the Sabres have a chance at drafting him, they should absolutely do anything to do it.

And then somehow get Kyle Beach to play on a line the other side of him....:nod:

WhoIsJimBob 09-20-2010 08:32 AM

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...103183559.html

He seems right up the Sabres alley save for the Euro thing.

;)

Chainshot 09-20-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 27849356)
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...103183559.html

He seems right up the Sabres alley save for the Euro thing.

;)

Eh, they've only taken two "little" players in the last four years worth of draftees -- Ennis and Byron. They are clearly looking for bigger players now. It would probably have to be severe love-at-first site type of thing for Martschini to be on their radar at any point.

jfb392 09-27-2010 03:49 PM

Khokhlachev is 2nd in OHL scoring right now with 6 points in 3 games.
He was 2-2-4 against Barrie, then Windsor was shutout by Sarnia, and 1-1-2 against Plymouth.

jfb392 10-16-2010 04:45 PM

The ISS rankings for October are out, and since TSN will update the page as they change, here they are:

http://i54.tinypic.com/xohzer.png

Original page is here.

Moskau 10-16-2010 04:53 PM

There's a 5'6" guy in the top 30? We're ****ed.

jfb392 10-16-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moskau (Post 28348009)
There's a 5'6" guy in the top 30? We're ****ed.

:laugh:

Catenacci is perfect for us too, since he's a center and 5'9".

Both have been good so far though.
Grimaldi is currently at 3-5-8 in 3GP and Catenacci is 2-10-12 in 10.
The latter was also the 1st overall pick in the 2009 OHL draft.
Grimaldi was drafted by the Giants in the WHL I believe, but his rights were traded to the Winterhawks after it looked like he was going to go the college route (he's committed to UND right now).

New Sabres Captain 10-16-2010 05:30 PM

For those who are unaware, Adam Clendening (ranked 17) is a Niagara Falls kid (who also happens to have great taste in NCAA schools, of course). Granted, we definitely don't need to take another D-man in the first round, so I doubt we'd take him anyways. He is almost a mortal lock at this point to be on the US WJC team in Buffalo as well.

jfb392 10-16-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords (Post 28348772)
For those who are unaware, Adam Clendening (ranked 17) is a Niagara Falls kid (who also happens to have great taste in NCAA schools, of course). Granted, we definitely don't need to take another D-man in the first round, so I doubt we'd take him anyways. He is almost a mortal lock at this point to be on the US WJC team in Buffalo as well.

If the defenseman is Larsson, Murphy, or Musil, then I think it'd be worth it.
Dougie Hamilton looks pretty good too.

Endless Ike 10-16-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BikeGiftingMan (Post 27742974)
Who looks to be available around 13? :laugh:

who looks to be available around 1-3

jfb392 10-17-2010 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Endless Ike (Post 28360641)
who looks to be available around 1-3

I think it's a little early for that.. :shakehead

Also, about Ryan Murphy..
7-11-18 in 9GP and is 3rd in OHL scoring; was leading it last week.
He scored the only two goals for Kitchener tonight in a loss.
Remember, this kid is a defenseman.

Would this kid fix the power play or what? :naughty:
He isn't that good defensively, but he's still young and has shown signs of improvement so far this year.
His speed, shot, and creativeness are all incredible.

Here's his first two goals this year:

msm29 10-17-2010 04:38 PM

Sounds a lot like Gragnani/Crawford/Gauthier-Leduc

jfb392 10-17-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htsportplaya (Post 28370699)
Sounds a lot like Gragnani/Crawford/Gauthier-Leduc

Well, I agree he does since he is an offensive defenseman, but it's probably safe to say that none of them possess anywhere as much skill as this kid does.
If he can translate his success he has had so far in juniors (which with his abilities, he should be able to) to the NHL, he could easily be Mike Green 2.0.
If you look at just statistics, his rookie year was as productive as Mike Green's 4th in the WHL and 3 points off of Green's draft year.

And so far this year, he's almost halfway to his total last year and only a sixth of the season has been played..
His pace right now is ~130 points. :amazed:

jfb392 10-20-2010 10:55 PM

Two other prospects I like: LW Sven Bartschi and RW Ty Rattie, both from Portland.

They are smaller (5'10" and 6'0" respectively), but not as small as someone like Nugent-Hopkins.
Bartschi has 9-10-19 and Rattie has 8-14-22, both in 12GP.

Rattie will probably be a 1st round pick, and I could see Bartschi being a 2nd.
Portland has some really good players they've been developing (see picks #4 and 5 last year for the proof) and I definitely think both of them would be worth picking.
They aren't centers, but they bring a lot more upside to our wings.

The centers are kind of hard to pick right now, so I'm just going to wait for ISS on those..

Tachycineta 10-21-2010 04:53 AM

Too bad we didn't get Jarnkrok but Pysyk is fine too. Meh.

I think it would be cool if we got Khokhlachov. He was born on my birthday. But the chemistry with Kassian is good and he is a center.

I still doubt we draft him- the last Russian we drafted was Buravchikov in 05 and we had a few in 00-03. If we do go euro, it's more likely to be a Swede. And Max was the last Russian who made our team and he was drafted 13 years ago. I just see our current management as being too risk averse unless it's someone of Ovechkin's or Malkin's character.


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