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metric 09-11-2010 05:54 PM

Prospect Thread (Part 6)
 
The lack of coverage from today's on-ice session disturbs me

Burke's Evil Spirit 09-11-2010 07:42 PM

Leafs/Blackhawks prospect game is today.

Kyle Beach got a misconduct for getting into an altercation with an official :biglaugh:

KDizzle 09-11-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metric (Post 27737928)
The lack of coverage from today's on-ice session disturbs me

I didn't think it was possible but I think there's a rift between Gillis and every single prospect at camp. :help:

He just doesn't like kids in their late-teens/early 20's :nod:

701 09-11-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDizzle (Post 27739655)
I didn't think it was possible but I think there's a rift between Gillis and every single prospect at camp. :help:

He just doesn't like kids in their late-teens/early 20's :nod:

I don't know about that, but he'll be stiff, sore, and maybe grumpy if indeed
he rode in the Gran Fondo up to Whistler today as he planned to do.

I heard that AV was going to do that ride as well. There might be a a giant rift
between management and the players if they decided to buzz off on their bikes while the
prospects bused off to a tough series of games in Penticton :)

timw33 09-11-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burke's Evil Spirit (Post 27739343)
Leafs/Blackhawks prospect game is today.

Kyle Beach got a misconduct for getting into an altercation with an official :biglaugh:

What is wrong with that guy...

Gorge Canuck 09-13-2010 02:13 PM

HF posted the Canuck prospect values:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ouver_canucks/

Quote:

1. (1) Cody Hodgson, C, 8.5C
2. (4) Jordan Schroeder, C, 7.5C
3. (5) Anton Rodin, LW, 7.0C
4. (6) Sergei Shirokov, RW, 7.0C
5. (10) Kevin Connauton, D, 7.0C
6. (NR) Patrick McNally, D, 7.0D
7. (7) Steven Anthony, LW, 7.0D
8. (8) Yann Sauve, D, 7.0C
9. (11) Prab Rai, C, 6.5C
10. (9) Taylor Ellington, D, 6.5C
11. (NR) Adam Polasek, D, 6.5C
12. (NR) Billy Sweatt, LW, 6.0B
13. (12) Mario Bliznak, C, 6.0B
14. (16) Evan Oberg, D, 6.5D
15. (13) Jeremy Price, D, 6.5D
16. (14) Ilja Kablukov, C, 6.5D
17. (17) Kellan Tochkin, RW, 6.5D
18. (15) Peter Andersson, D, 6.0C
19. (NR) Jonathan Iilahti, G, 6.0C
20. (NR) Joe Cannata, G, 6.0C

Gorge Canuck 09-13-2010 02:17 PM

The rankings are strange to me as it seems to be team based, ie. how they moved Grabner up and all of our top players have a C or D. Is that really the best way to go about this?
It is about the player reaching potential not the team he has to make.

Wayne Maki 09-13-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jag (Post 27759891)
HF posted the Canuck prospect values:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ouver_canucks/

Just terrible, way worse than previous years somehow. They totally left out Tanev, Ellington above anyone is a joke, and the section on Andersson is just wrong.
Quote:

Newly signed to an entry level contract, the lanky defenseman will have time to fill out his frame while adapting to the rigors of professional hockey in North America.

Penciled in for a starting role in the AHL, Andersson has shown himself to be a reliable defensive presence playing against the men of the Swedish Eliteserien. At 6’3 and 195 pounds he has a projectable frame for the NHL and although he is not likely to develop into an offensive defenseman, he has a good first pass and reads the play well. Andersson will be welcomed into a camp with a sizable Swedish contingent and given plenty of time to develop in the minors.
Rodin's is just as bad as Andersson's writeup.
Quote:

A character player who shows great hustle and determination, Rodin outscored his more illustrious Swedish linemates at the WJC and potted two game winning goals in the tournament. Although slightly built at the moment, he plays a physical game, drives hard to the net and competes all over the ice.

Newly signed to a professional contract, he is thought to be able to benefit from a stint in the minors to build up his strength and adapt to the smaller ice. The Canucks won’t be too surprised however if he makes it very hard for them not to include him in their opening day lineup.
There are at least a dozen posters here could do a better job.

thefeebster 09-13-2010 02:21 PM

A big WTF @ Andersson's placement - Ellington at 10? I guess my mention of the fact that if he played the entire season and didn't get injured, he would likely be in the class of Rundblad and Erixon, based on PPG numbers didn't get to them. And he did so on the 3rd pairing on a worse team...

Not even a mention of Tanev. What is this!:shakehead

No Lack either.

Drop the Sopel 09-13-2010 02:28 PM

I would probably lean towards putting Connauton ahead of Schroeder in the #2 spot. Something about Connauton's face just looks like that of a pro hockey player. How big of a stretch is it to put Connauton ahead of Schroeder?

Lard_Lad 09-13-2010 02:48 PM

Anthony still at #7. :shakehead Seriously, can somebody make a logical argument for him being a better prospect than Sweatt, and having the same potential top end as Rodin and Shirokov? One more so-so season in the Q and he's not even going to get a contract.

metric 09-13-2010 02:54 PM

Andersson at 18?

The ****?

Wetcoaster 09-13-2010 03:53 PM

I think they let Ron Delorme loose to do the rankings for HF.:D

Tiranis 09-13-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetcoaster (Post 27761183)
I think they let Ron Delorme loose to do the rankings for HF.:D

I'm not convinced — Ellington is too low.

KDizzle 09-13-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiranis (Post 27761362)
I'm not convinced Ellington is too low.

Well you have to excuse him, it was based on the practice prior to the Young Stars opener.

Tiranis 09-13-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDizzle (Post 27761393)
Well you have to excuse him, it was based on the practice prior to the Young Stars opener.

Nah, Delorme always quite clearly had him as our Top 5 prospect. I just can't believe that he would release a list like that with Ellington so low. Unless... a RIFT?

timw33 09-13-2010 05:05 PM

Ignore all HF rankings and grades and do yourself a huge favour.

KDizzle 09-13-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timw33 (Post 27762016)
Ignore all HF rankings and grades and do yourself a huge favour.

But... if we ignore it then we'll have nothing to complain about.
What will we do to pass the time then? :D

Mr. Canucklehead 09-13-2010 05:57 PM

Yeah...no.

All due respect, but that list is definitely a bit of a head scratcher.

xtr3m 09-13-2010 06:15 PM

To all shouldvedraftedKabanovs: he wasn't allowed on ice today due to being late.

701 09-13-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Canucklehead (Post 27762682)
Yeah...no.

All due respect, but that list is definitely a bit of a head scratcher.

MrC, that list and writeup show blatant incompetence. Is there any way we can ask whoever wrote it, or better, his supervisor, to at least get input from someone who's familiar with our prospects? That guy clearly knows **** all.

The Andersson BS is beyond belief, with Rodin, Ellington, and Anthony also being comical in their own ways. It makes the Hockey's Future writers look like morons when matters of obvious fact are dead wrong, let alone their screwy interpretations.

The poster who said we should always simply ignore HF rankings or "analysis" (at least the anal part fits) is right. But this is by far the worst I've seen in half a decade on this board.

Really, who writes this crap, anyway?

Andy Dufresne 09-13-2010 09:18 PM

Apparently it was written by Kyle West;)
I wonder if the Habs writeup was done by Kyle East

I wonder why anyone would write that much without doing any research?

701 09-13-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 27766412)
Apparently it was written by Kyle West;)
I wonder if the Habs writeup was done by Kyle East

I wonder why anyone would write that much without doing any research?

Yeah AD, I know it's by Kyle West, but who is that guy? Hey Kyle, about 20,000 hits
of "OMG what a ****ing idiot" are going to be made on your frozen thought. How does
that feel?

FacepalmBenning 09-14-2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701 (Post 27766628)
Yeah AD, I know it's by Kyle West, but who is that guy? Hey Kyle, about 20,000 hits
of "OMG what a ****ing idiot" are going to be made on your frozen thought. How does
that feel?

Like between $300-2,000 depending on his internet advertising scheme.

Illmatic Stoic 09-14-2010 08:51 PM

Something to think about Tanev

-Kevin Shattenkirk stats http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=105410

- Jeff Petry stats http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=94006

-Dylan Olsen stats http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=112346


-compared to Chris Tanev's http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=105112 Tanev with eligible to be drafted last year so that was his season after his "draft".


btw shattenkirk who is considered an offensive defenseman had only 4 goals and 21 points in the year after his draft. comepared to tanevs 10 goals and i think 28 points in 41 games. Shattenkirk was also rated an 8.0 c on hf, while tanev wasn't even in our top 20.

(posted this in the youngstars thread as well)


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