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chris14799 09-15-2010 01:20 PM

Fedoruk/Guerin/Carcillo
 
i read that Fedoruk was on informal skate with the Flyers! So Guerin is on what would one say to keeping Fedoruk and letting carcillo go! Possible?

agrudez* 09-15-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chris14799 (Post 27788897)
i read that Fedoruk was on informal skate with the Flyers! So Guerin is on what would one say to keeping Fedoruk and letting carcillo go! Possible?

Fedoruk is more of a Shelley than a Carcillo, no?

jd2210 09-15-2010 01:23 PM

Fedoruk always skates here I believe. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.

GKJ 09-15-2010 01:24 PM

Fedoruk is not an NHL player at this point, I fear.

Flyskippy 09-15-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jd2210 (Post 27788939)
Fedoruk always skates here I believe. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.

That's what one of the articles I saw had said. Fedoruk can play for Adirondack, IMO. He'd be a good guy to have in their locker room after the bad season they had last year.

Komarov47 09-15-2010 02:12 PM

i'd rather keep Carcillo, he's got way more heart & soul than Fedoruk.

JLHockeyKnight 09-15-2010 02:22 PM

Is this thread a joke thread?

Spongolium* 09-15-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JLHockeyKnight (Post 27789792)
Is this thread a joke thread?

I really hope so

Centauris* 09-15-2010 02:35 PM

Carcillo owns both of those scrubs.

RIPRichardsCarter 09-15-2010 02:56 PM

Oh god why?

sobrien 09-15-2010 03:04 PM

Fridge is one of my favorite Flyers ever. But there's no room for what he brings to the table on this team.

DUHockey9 09-15-2010 03:45 PM

Fedoruk isn't even close to an NHL player anymore. He was always a good guy though, so I wouldn't mind him on the Phantoms.

Larry44 09-15-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sobrien (Post 27790417)
Fridge is one of my favorite Flyers ever. But there's no room for what he brings to the table on this team.

There's barely room on the table for all the parts of his 'some assembly required' titanium face.....

Larry44 09-15-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DUHockey9 (Post 27790908)
Fedoruk isn't even close to an NHL player anymore. He was always a good guy though, so I wouldn't mind him on the Phantoms.

Don't need him there either, with Blood Klotz and Crimson Clackson on the roster.

RJ8812 09-15-2010 04:24 PM

if you think Fedoruk brings just as much or more to the table than Carcillo, please just stop posting here

CantSeeColors 09-15-2010 05:21 PM

Come on guys. This is the kind of scenario in which we could trade Carcillo for a bad-decent prospect. How do we pass that up?

Kaktus* 09-15-2010 05:26 PM

No to Fridge he is not a player we need in the NHL, maybe he'll play for Phantoms? Sad memories how he was KO'ed by Orr. Just sad.

DrinkFightFlyers 09-15-2010 05:56 PM

That is not something I would want to happen. Guerin>Carcillo>Shelley>Fedoruk

Andrew Knoll 09-15-2010 06:32 PM

Newsflash, Carcillo loves being a Flyer and is cheap! Why would we trade him for some average prospect? If Guerin means trading Carcillo, I am against it, if Fedoruk is anywhere near the Flyers roster, I will break down and cry.

Valhoun* 09-15-2010 08:15 PM

Fedoruk is one of the few players that I would absolutely say that Shelley is better than.

JGalt 09-15-2010 08:53 PM

Fridge is not an NHL player period. Let alone on a team as deep as this one.

Clown Baby 09-15-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Big Bear (Post 27789637)
i'd rather keep Carcillo, he's got way more heart & soul than Fedoruk.

Is that a joke? The Fridge doesn't have the bite he used to, but heart he has in spades.
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Looking back, Todd Fedoruk said, fighting Thrashers tough guy Eric Boulton in the first game of the season was "stupid." At the time, he believed he had no other option. The challenge was made, and he responded. It is the way Fedoruk has always played. The Lightning left wing was careful to shield the right side of his face, which was so badly damaged in an October 2006 fight with the Wild's Derek Boogaard that five titanium plates were needed to put his orbital and cheekbones together. Titanium mesh holds the eye in place. "If I take a punch in the right spot, I could lose it," Fedoruk said. So what the heck was he doing with Boulton?

"I wanted to get my 1,000th penalty minute in a fight," Fedoruk said. "It's a pride thing."

He has swallowed his pride, and kept his fists to himself, since.

Fedoruk, 30, has 10 titanium plates in his face. Three hold together orbital and cheekbones around his left eye, shattered in a November 2003 fight with the Islanders' Eric Cairns. Two others hold together a sinus bone broken by a flying puck.

Fedoruk knows it is best that he no longer fights. But if he doesn't fight, how can he play?

"The way I was taught is, if you play a certain way, if somebody challenges you, you back it up, and you take that guy down," Fedoruk said.

The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder has been good at it, too, and prolific, with 117 fights in a nine-year NHL career in which he has taken on the biggest and baddest.

"He was," said Zenon Konopka, Fedoruk's teammate with the Lightning and Ducks, "one of the toughest guys in the league."

The dilemma is how that toughness should be applied now.

How can he play his usual feisty style if he can't answer the bell when challenged? It just doesn't seem right, he said: "It's a shock to your pride and your manhood."

He has wrestled with that so much this season, his play has suffered, and he was scratched for nine games from Nov. 22 to Dec. 7. He said it was for the best, as he had time to evaluate his career and reinforce how it affects his wife, Theresa, and their kids, Luke, 5, and Sienna, 3.

"I had to learn I don't owe anything to anybody," said Fedoruk, acquired by the Lightning in July from the Coyotes in the Radim Vrbata deal. "I want to stay here as long as I can, and whatever I have to do, I'll do. If that means reinventing my role, that's the biggest thing.

"I came into the league saying if I play with an edge, I have to back it up. It's just not like that anymore. I've got mortgages to pay, a family to take care of."

Said coach Rick Tocchet: "There are lots of guys who agitate and are always in your face, and get rebounds and are in your face, chip the puck and are in your face. Those are the guys he has to be like to be effective."



Fedoruk said at least one doctor told him he should not play after he was crushed by Boogaard. Yet Fedoruk, who split that season with the Ducks and Flyers, fought six more times that season and took on the Rangers' Colton Orr in March.

Orr broke Fedoruk's jaw.

"I felt I wanted to keep the same game that got me here," Fedoruk said. "You want to keep that respect. It's something you earned. But if you go into a chaotic situation worried that something will happen to you, you're not going to do very well."

And that brings us back to the battle with Boulton.

Said Theresa: "The first thing he said was, 'I got in a fight. I turned my face so I wouldn't get hit, so I got hit in my ear and lost my balance and went down.' I thought, 'My, God, what is he doing? Where's your head? You don't need to do this.'

Konopka agrees.

"If he feels weird, he can't fight. It's absolutely ludicrous. He's paid his dues. He's fought everyone. He is a warrior."
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RJ8812 09-15-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clown Baby (Post 27795883)
Is that a joke? The Fridge doesn't have the bite he used to, but heart he has in spades.link

I don't care how much heart he has, I don't want him anywhere near this team

infidelappel* 09-15-2010 11:05 PM

I would love to have Fedoruk....

...Around this team, in some kind of player development role. Think Hatch, but to a lesser degree. Maybe with the Phantoms.

Fridge has always had a pretty good attitude. Much like Cote, he's totally useless as a player, but his work ethic could benefit other players who still can play.

ashamsmashem 09-16-2010 12:30 AM

riley cote and todd fedoruk as the phantoms assistant coaches. :fight:


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