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Kings 2010-11 CHL and NCAA Prospect Update Thread

CHL Playoffs

Player	Team, League	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-
Linden Vey	Medicine Hat, WHL	15	12	13	25	8	+7
Nicolas Deslauriers	Gatineau, QMJHL	24	5	15	20	19	+9
Maxim Kitsyn	Mississauga, OHL	20	10	9	19	14	+4
Brayden Schenn	Saskatoon, WHL	10	6	5	11	14	-7
Robbie Czarnik	Plymouth, OHL	11	4	5	9	6	-5
Tyler Toffoli	Ottawa, OHL	4	3	5	8	4	-4

Player	Team, League	GP	Record	GAA	SV%	SO
Jean-Francois Berube	Montreal, QMJHL	10	6-4-0-0	2.79	0.901	2

CHL

Player	Team, League	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM	+/-
Linden Vey	Medicine Hat, WHL	69	46	70	116	36	+37
Tyler Toffoli	Ottawa, OHL	68	57	51	108	33	+44
Jordan Weal	Regina, WHL	72	43	53	96	70	+13
Robbie Czarnik	Plymouth, OHL	61	33	44	77	46	+4
Brayden Schenn	Saskatoon, WHL	29	22	35	57	25	+19
Nicolas Deslauriers	Gatineau, QMJHL	48	13	30	43	53	+22
Maxim Kitsyn	Mississauga, OHL	32	9	17	26	24	+9

Player	Team, League	GP	Record	GAA	SV%	SO
Jean-Francois Berube	Montreal, QMJHL	50	32-7-3-5	2.60	0.902	2

NCAA

Player	Team, Conference	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
Garrett Roe	St. Cloud State, WCHA	38	10	26	36	48
Josh Turnbull	Wisconsin, WCHA	38	13	7	20	28
Nic Dowd	St. Cloud State, WCHA	36	5	13	18	34
Derek Forbort	North Dakota, WCHA	38	0	15	15	26
Kevin Gravel	St. Cloud State, WCHA	36	1	5	6	4

WJC U-20

Player	Team	GP	G	A	Pts	+/-
Brayden Schenn	Canada	7	8	10	18	+10
Maxim Kitsyn	Russia	7	5	4	9	+7
Derek Forbort	USA	6	0	0	0	0

Like last year, I'll try to keep the stats updated weekly but in case I don't, or you need more current statistics, check these websites.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_scorers OHL
http://media.whl.ca/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_scorers WHL
http://lhjmq.leaguestat.com/en/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_scorers&season_id=82 QMJHL
http://www.uscho.com/stats/ NCAA
http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/teamstats NCAA
http://www.iihf.com/channels1011/wm20/statistics.html WJC U-20
Kings Hockeydb Draft Page

Q: When is the earliest the Kings CHL prospects are eligible to play a full season in Manchester?
A: Providing he has a pro contract:
2010-11: Teubert, Jones, Kozun, Czarnik*, Nolan**, Muzzin**
2011-12: Schenn, Clifford, Deslauriers, Berube, Vey
2012-13: Toffoli, Weal
*Was eligible in both 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons.
**Was eligible in 2009-10 season.

They can join Manchester for the rest of Manchester's season after their respective junior seasons are over, providing they have a pro contract or an ATO.

Here's an explanation of the AHL age requirements.

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Originally Posted by ratsgirl (Post 9980025)

Since this question seems to come up over and over again:

There is a private agreement in place between the NHL and the CHL that governs when a player coming from the CHL can play in the AHL. A player from the CHL has to either turn 20 by December 31st of the season (ie a player born in 1987 can start playing in the 2007-08 season, a player born in 1988 can start playing in the 2008-09 season etc.) OR have completed 4 seasons of junior eligibility. This agreement also covers European players if they are drafted out of the CHL (Examples would be players like Petr Vrana and Ivan Vishnevskiy). Also - CHL players are eligible to play in the AHL once their junior season is over (either by virtue of their junior team not making the playoffs or being eliminated from the playoffs) even if they don't yet meet the age or eligibility criteria listed above.

College players and European players (provided they are drafted out of Europe--even if they later play in the CHL) are not covered by this agreement. They only have to abide by the AHL's age requirement, which is that a player has to turn 18 by September 15 of any given season to be eligible to play. While you won't see many 18-year olds in the AHL, some European players have played at that age (e.g. Niklas Bergfors)

Q: Which Kings prospects played at the WJC?
A: Schenn (Canada), Forbort (USA), and Kitsyn (Russia) played at the WJC (Clifford was with the Kings, and Deslauriers was out with an injury). Vey, Toffoli, and Berube participated in the August Canadian evaluation camp, along with Schenn, Clifford, and Deslauriers. Vey also was invited to the December selection camp but was cut at the camp.

You think there's a St. Cloud St. connection?

Dang! Juniors is looking pretty barren if Schenn & Clifford make the big club.

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Originally Posted by Reaper45 (Post 27934060)

You think there's a St. Cloud St. connection?

No, I'm not sure about Roe, but Dowd was drafted out of the NAHL and Gravel out of the USHL.

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Originally Posted by KingLB (Post 27934164)

No, I'm not sure about Roe, but Dowd was drafted out of the NAHL and Gravel out of the USHL.

I know that, but you don't think it's convenient that those two ended up there?

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Originally Posted by Reaper45 (Post 27934249)

I know that, but you don't think it's convenient that those two ended up there?

Most kids commit to school long before the draft. Hell there is a 15 year old kid in SoCal that has already verbally committed to BC. Granted that is a more extreme case, but most commits are made well in advance of a NHL teams involvement. On top of that, we don't even know if any of those kids are gonna be signed by the Kings. There are very similar kids in the system (for all 3 players) that are better than them.

Will Robbie Czarnik play in the AHL this year, or do you guys think he will return to the Whalers as an OA getting top minutes?

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Originally Posted by KingLB (Post 27934691)

And you don't think those commitments can be changed if there in an NHL team in your ear, saying go to this school, it's a good program. Kind of like how lots of Kings prospects have been "talked into", whether on record or not, leaving Michigan.

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Originally Posted by Reaper45 (Post 27956990)

SIGNING a letter of intent then switching is a lot different then leaving the NCAA for Juniors.

I forgot how early juniors start.

Toffoli: G, A

Nice start to the season.

Nice start by Toffoli

Can anyone tell me how Weal and Toffoli looked in training camp?

Yes, I'm sure there's a better thread for this, but the search function isn't giving me any posts more recent than Aug. 18 :huh:

Toffoli's at 2 goals and 2 assists now in 2 games, let's hope he keeps it up

Yes!!! Only one game in and Deslauriers is already -3 !!!!! :yo:

:p:

If anyone here has channel 617 (FCS) on DirecTV you can watch Derek Forbort in action right now against the University of Manitoba in an exhibition game. ND is up 2-1 right now in the first. Forbort has an assist (nabbed a turnover at center ice, came in 2 on 1 and fed the other guy with a nice backhand pace to spring him in clean) and is a +2 so far.

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Originally Posted by William H Bonney (Post 28088090)

Damn too bad I don't get that with Time Warner. He'll be here in two weekends playing Maine, so I'll be keeping a close eye on him in that series.

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Originally Posted by William H Bonney (Post 28088090)

He is now a +3 on the night to go along with his assist. He is such a smooth skater and is picking the perfect time to jump in on the play while be very sound defensively so far. He reminds me of a combination of Paul Martin and Alex Goligosky when they were at Minnesota. You guys have yourself a damn good player!

Forbort looked like he belonged as a true freshman last night in Grand Forks. He was very solid overall. He stuck up for his teammate getting checked from behind so was nice to see that side as well. He had a very nice pass to jason gregoire (nyi draftee) on the 2 on 1 and im guessing he will see good PP time as this season continues. This Sioux team is national title contender good and I believe Forbort will play a nice role in this run!!

you can use these links below to follow 4bort ( he wears #4) ;) throughout the season. Good luck to the Kings and go sioux

Fighting Sioux Hockey Home Page

siouxsports.com hockey forum

Brad Schlossmans Fighting Sioux Blog he does the best job in the country for college teams on covering the sioux as hes the beat writer for the grand forks herald

you can catch all sioux home games on DIRECT TV fcs (channel 617 & 623 fri and sat nights). Also road games vs wisconsin and denver are usually picked up on direct tv fox sports if you have the 12.00 sports pack. Also, a few are usaully picked up by the NHL network throught the season.

Where's Kitsyn playing, I don't see him in any thread where we can follow his season?

Thanks for the Forbort updates :)

DP: Kitsyn is in the KHL

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Originally Posted by DP (Post 28119748)

Where's Kitsyn playing, I don't see him in any thread where we can follow his season?

KHL.

Not sure what team.

I will be in Ruskie in January and will get to watch him play twice. I will be able to use my phone to post a little footage of him when I do. I had heard that he was playing over here this season somewhere but I haven't looked so there ya go.

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 28120994)

He was drafted by Missusaga(sp?). But I guess he decided against it.