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CerpinTaxt 10-12-2010 11:58 AM

Will Laviolette Continute Alternating Goalies?
 
Its clear so far that we dont have a clear cut #1 between Bob and Bouch. Do you think he is going to give both equal playing time, or is he choosing goalie based upon the opposite team?

DrinkFightFlyers 10-12-2010 12:19 PM

I don't think he will. At some point, either Sideshow Bob or Boosh will begin to faulter and one will emerge as the starter. The other will be sent down when Leighton returns, and then depending on how well whoever stays is playing, there will likely be some sort of alternating that takes place then.

infidelappel* 10-12-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CerpinTaxt (Post 28263051)
Its clear so far that we dont have a clear cut #1 between Bob and Bouch. Do you think he is going to give both equal playing time, or is he choosing goalie based upon the opposite team?

Per his own words, he's getting them both going early.

I take this to mean he's alternating them. Eventually if one really heats up or cools down, he'll proceed to ride the hot hand.

Garbage Goal 10-12-2010 12:21 PM

Until one of them starts screwing up or Leighton comes back, yes.

RoDu 10-12-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Garbage Goal (Post 28263477)
Until one of them starts screwing up or Leighton comes back, yes.

shudder

phillyflu 10-12-2010 01:07 PM

I new here so I'm guessing you need a certain number of posts before you can vote in a poll. Since I can't vote, I'll just say, yes he'll keep alternating them for awhile.

JLHockeyKnight 10-12-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Garbage Goal (Post 28263477)
Until one of them starts screwing up or Leighton comes back, yes.

Agreed. He's going to make them both work for it until the "Number 1" rises out of the fog. Not a bad strategy. It forces both to play their ***** off.

Teezax 10-12-2010 01:21 PM

I don't know about Leighton coming back, I think the organization is a little pissed at him rigth now for not disclosing certain injury details. He will be made an example of IMHO as he should be.
Waive HIM I say

EasyMac 10-12-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Teezax (Post 28264482)
I don't know about Leighton coming back, I think the organization is a little pissed at him rigth now for not disclosing certain injury details. He will be made an example of IMHO as he should be.
Waive HIM I say

It will be interesting when he comes back for sure. If both Boucher and Bobs are playing well, there is no reason either one should be sent down. I hope they both can play at a high level and force the team to bury Leighton in the minors.

As for now, I think it will be a rotation system, until one of the two clearly starts to outperform the other. If it is (fingers crossed) Bobs that is playing better, I still think you will see Boucher get a fair number of starts as they won't want to wear Bobs down (or at least they shouldn't, although they did play Emery a ton last year despite him never playing a huge number of games so then again I wouldn't be surprised if they forced Bobs to play too much).

Garbage Goal 10-12-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Teezax (Post 28264482)
I don't know about Leighton coming back, I think the organization is a little pissed at him rigth now for not disclosing certain injury details. He will be made an example of IMHO as he should be.
Waive HIM I say

Depends on how well the team and our goalies are doing by the team Leighton comes back (which is a relatively long time from now). If one of our goalies isn't playing up to par then Leighton will get a chance.

Not to mention that Leighton is signed for two years at 1.55 per and our organization is loyal to a fault. So I doubt Leighton never gets a chance again.

CerpinTaxt 10-12-2010 01:58 PM

I think that when and if Leighton comes back, it will be Bob who will be the one who is sent down. Bob wouldnt have to clear waivers like Leighton, Bouch, and Backlund would have to. If we sustain another goalie injury, would be easier to call up Bob then the other three.

i am dave 10-12-2010 02:21 PM

I'm under the impression there will be a lot of platooning for the next 6-8 weeks (unless one of Boucher or Bobrovsky really stands out or you-know-whats the bed). When Leighton comes back, I imagine he'll get more than his share of starts (Bob will probably go down to the AHL), and it will be up to Leighton to stay. Let's say I'll be surprised if Leighton's given a long leash upon his return, assuming Bob continues playing solidly.

KimiFerrari 10-12-2010 02:43 PM

Yes. I don't think either goalie could handle a full season load, so he will ride whomever until they go cold.

Bobo has only played 2 seasons in the 30s of games, and Boucher is not known to be very consistent. Expecting either goalie to play 50-60 games is crazy.

Sawdalite 10-12-2010 02:48 PM

I voted 'YES' even though I think that it will not be a strict alternating.

My thinking is that BoBo still has to get used to the NA NHL long schedule with any more games, as well as become more comfortable with the smaller rink and different style of play. This plus the fact that he is still really young and quite raw, although he seems highly skilled and very quick with good hockey sense... he also is reported to be a good student who will listen and learn. I like that he seems humble and appears to understand how important his teammates are -- although that is what is supposed to be said, and it has to be shown to be true.

Boosh on the other hand seems to be familiar with a back up role and doesn't have to play a lot of games to give quality starts... While I'm certain he wants to be a #1 and can get hot and be in a 'zone' when played a long stretch when called on, I also believe he is a TEAM player and will mentor BoBo and when in a rotation will give his all.

That is all pretty much just common knowledge -- with a dash of opinion -- and I'm guessing that Lavvy look at it with similar logic and will go easy on the kid and not rush him... That not to say that he will not play a very hot goalie for a fairly extended time, or go by opponent on a hunch... And of course down the stretch will be an entirely different matter with a complete designated #1 getting the lion's share.

To be honest I have no idea what will happen when Leights comes back if BoBo is playing well, and Boosh is also... Do they send the kid down to play a lot with the Phantoms and develop? Do they move Boosh? Do they make Leights work his way back to the #1 job and move him if he doesn't grab it... saving Cap-space in the process? IMO it will be very interesting a couple of months down the line.

KimiFerrari 10-12-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sawdalite (Post 28265848)
I voted 'YES' even though I think that it will not be a strict alternating.

My thinking is that BoBo still has to get used to the NA NHL long schedule with any more games, as well as become more comfortable with the smaller rink and different style of play. This plus the fact that he is still really young and quite raw, although he seems highly skilled and very quick with good hockey sense... he also is reported to be a good student who will listen and learn. I like that he seems humble and appears to understand how important his teammates are -- although that is what is supposed to be said, and it has to be shown to be true.

Boosh on the other hand seems to be familiar with a back up role and doesn't have to play a lot of games to give quality starts... While I'm certain he wants to be a #1 and can get hot and be in a 'zone' when played a long stretch when called on, I also believe he is a TEAM player and will mentor BoBo and when in a rotation will give his all.

That is all pretty much just common knowledge -- with a dash of opinion -- and I'm guessing that Lavvy look at it with similar logic and will go easy on the kid and not rush him... That not to say that he will not play a very hot goalie for a fairly extended time, or go by opponent on a hunch... And of course down the stretch will be an entirely different matter with a complete designated #1 getting the lion's share.

To be honest I have no idea what will happen when Leights comes back if BoBo is playing well, and Boosh is also... Do they send the kid down to play a lot with the Phantoms and develop? Do they move Boosh? Do they make Leights work his way back to the #1 job and move him if he doesn't grab it... saving Cap-space in the process? IMO it will be very interesting a couple of months down the line.

Hopefully they put Leights through a conditioning stint.

Sawdalite 10-12-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KimiFerrari (Post 28265989)
Hopefully they put Leights through a conditioning stint.

Yea, and I sure hope that this season there is more stability in goal with less ins and outs due to various injuries... Leights' injury got them off to a bad and recently familiar start.

Cartsiephan* 10-12-2010 03:08 PM

Yes, considering Bobrovsky's career high for games is 35 it is the right thing to do.

RoDu 10-12-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KimiFerrari (Post 28265989)
Hopefully they put Leights through a conditioning stint.

and forget to call him back up:sarcasm:

Cartsiephan* 10-12-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CerpinTaxt (Post 28265070)
I think that when and if Leighton comes back, it will be Bob who will be the one who is sent down. Bob wouldnt have to clear waivers like Leighton, Bouch, and Backlund would have to. If we sustain another goalie injury, would be easier to call up Bob then the other three.

Very good points.

Teezax 10-12-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KimiFerrari (Post 28265989)
Hopefully they put Leights through a conditioning stint.

They can always pull out the old "Hey you have Vertigo, you have to retire now" routine ala Jeff Hackett.

FlyHigh 10-12-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cartsiephan (Post 28266204)
Yes, considering Bobrovsky's career high for games is 35 it is the right thing to do.

This may be the first time I've ever agreed with Cartiephan, but yes, having Bob play 55 games plus the POs would not be good.

Gert B Frobe 10-12-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by i am dave (Post 28265420)
I'm under the impression there will be a lot of platooning for the next 6-8 weeks (unless one of Boucher or Bobrovsky really stands out or you-know-whats the bed). When Leighton comes back, I imagine he'll get more than his share of starts (Bob will probably go down to the AHL), and it will be up to Leighton to stay. Let's say I'll be surprised if Leighton's given a long leash upon his return, assuming Bob continues playing solidly.

give Boucher enough starts and he will most certainly **** the bed to pieces

BobbyClarkeFan16 10-12-2010 08:05 PM

This is the stupidest thing Laviolette has done. Bobrovsky has earned the starter's role. He's outplayed every goalie on the roster in pre-season, he's outplayed Boucher so far this year. Enough of this stupid rotating back and forth - give Bobrovsky the starter's role and let him run with it until he falters.

Valhoun* 10-12-2010 08:14 PM

Bob needs to be brought along conservatively and Boucher is mentally able to be the back up and play limited games. There is no reason to lean hard on Bob the first month or so of the season. Also, if he does become the de facto starter, he's never played anywhere close to a full NHL season. Boucher is going to need to pick up a lot of slack.

And, since only the forwards have really been slacking off, there's no reason to single one of the goalies out for bad play. They've both done everything that has been asked of them.

Beef Invictus 10-12-2010 08:23 PM

i'd rather not risk shattering bobbo by giving him a starter's load.


on a side note, i bet leighton reinjures himself in his first game back. i just have really bad feelings about this whole back thing.


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