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AbsolonMoreau* 10-13-2010 12:02 AM

Friend Wants To Start Hockey
 
I have a friend that wants to start playing hockey, he is an average ice skater right now, 14 years old. He plays soccer so i pretty well conditioned, 5'11", 147. Any tips for him? What is the best equipment for him?

I found this stick, http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BS95

He shoots lefty, so what would be the best for him? He wants to be a RW, RD.

Islander102 10-13-2010 12:29 AM

Dont spend $200 on a stick for the guy if he is just starting out. He is not going to get any of the benefits that a stick of that caliber possesses. Get him a $20 wood stick and have him learn proper stickhandling and shooting techniques before he upgrades to an elite model. Chances are, at age 14, by the time he develops proper shooting techniques he is going to need a taller stick anyway, so if he gets a $200 stick now it will literally be a worthless investment.

Make sure he buys skates that are at least mid range, probably one model above. Crappy skates are restrictive, and cause immense foot pain, and dont allow you to develop well as a skater. Make sure he has gloves that have proper flexibility and padding. Not the area you want to skimp out on either. He does not need top of the line gloves that will protect you from slashes, but gloves below "mid range" are going to rip the skin off of his fingers in a heartbeat. It sucks. I used to have them.

Other than those two items, there is really not a need for high end equipment for a beginner player. He is not going to deal with very much physicality, he is more likely to need to be protected from himself falling and errant pucks more than anything an opponent will do to him. For helmets, sticks, pads, pants, get him stuff that fits, and thats about it. Get used when applicable. Once he gets the hang of it he will want better equipment because at that point it will make a difference in play. Right now the only things necessary to make an investment on are skates and gloves.

BrandNewDream 10-13-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AbsolonMoreau (Post 28275412)
I have a friend that wants to start playing hockey, he is an average ice skater right now, 14 years old. He plays soccer so i pretty well conditioned, 5'11", 147. Any tips for him? What is the best equipment for him?

I found this stick, http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BS95

He shoots lefty, so what would be the best for him? He wants to be a RW, RD.

If you're just starting, that stick is MUCH too expensive. Buy something a lot cheaper, and get used to stickhandling and shooting with that first. Not only will it save you money, it will help strengthen those lanky arms and wrists due to the heavier weight.

Then, when your skills advance, a lighter stick can help your game. But buying a stick like that is silly when the kid won't even know if he will stick with the game.

Let that be the rule for all of the equipment you buy; go low-end first. If you don't stick with the sport, then it's money down the drain. But above all, make sure everything fits properly. Go to a HOCKEY pro shop, not a "sports superstore". There will be employees there who can tell you how your equipment is meant to fit and what not. If you buy in hopes of growing into something, you'll be uncomfortable and your game will suffer. Skates are at the top of the list in considering fit.

Even if you don't buy your equipment at the pro shop, try different brands on, etc. to get a feel of what works. Different brands, especially in skates, fit much differently. Then, with an idea of what you want to buy, you can comparison shop online, perhaps.

Hope that helps.

Jarick 10-13-2010 09:42 AM

I wrote a long-winded article about equipment for beginners. Check it out here:

http://wildabouthockey.blogspot.com/...ers-guide.html

Devil Dancer 10-13-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 28278379)
I wrote a long-winded article about equipment for beginners. Check it out here:

http://wildabouthockey.blogspot.com/...ers-guide.html

Yikes, the total bill there is $680. I probably wouldn't ever have started if I had to pay that much before stepping on the ice. Not that your advice is bad, but I think you have to understand that a lot of beginners aren't going to spend that much because they don't know if they're going to stick with it.

I do agree about the stick, though. Start with something cheap and try a bunch out until you figure out what flex and curve you prefer.

Jarick 10-13-2010 11:39 AM

EDIT: I'll take that into consideration and re-write the article, differentiating between beginners and intermediate players. Thanks for the heads up.

Nakket 10-13-2010 12:55 PM

Here are the items I got approximately four months ago when I started:

CCM V05 Shin Guards $30
Easton Synergy ST4 Pants $50
Used/Unknown nike Shoulder Pads $14
Bauer 1500 w/ Cages $40
Easton S3 elbow $30
Reebok 3k Gloves $35
Shock Doctor Jock $30
Crappy Bauer Skates $30 (They broke, so I got a good deal on used RBK 5ks for $75
Bauer Supreme One55 wooden stick: $25


~$329

This equipment was perfectly fine for open hockey/beer league and has served me well. I have since gotten a few more sticks, and I hope to get some new skates soon.

I could argue that the two things you should splurge on at first (at least a little) are helmet and skates. I feel like for beer league/open hockey, even the crappiest of gear (read: mine) is fine. If I ever get in a checking league you can bet I'll at least be upgrading my shoulder pads.

Gunnar Stahl 30 10-13-2010 01:22 PM

always the option for used stuff

Jarick 10-13-2010 01:34 PM

Thanks for giving me something to do on my lunch hour :)

Here's an updated version. Completely rewrote it to include stuff for beginners who want to play regularly as well as when and why intermediate players should spring for better stuff. Also gave some specific recommendations.

Looking back, I did use a lot of cheaper gear when I started out again as an adult and I made it through without significant injury.

http://wildabouthockey.blogspot.com/...guide-for.html

Now the total bill for the basics is down to $515 with all new gear...more reasonable I think!

Devil Dancer 10-13-2010 01:56 PM

I like the changes you made a lot, good work.

gintonic 10-13-2010 01:59 PM

After a ten year layoff I started back last year and since all my old equipment had been sitting in the garage all those years, most of it was no good. I got most stuff via hockeygiant or hockeymonkey, and only bought the on sale stuff and spent about $200 for everying (except shoulder pads as I didn't like the bulkiness of a lot of the newer ones). And all the stuff is great. I really don't see the need that any beginner needs to plop down over $500 bucks for the equipment.

Jarick 10-13-2010 02:20 PM

What did you get for $200 total that is great equipment? And how often are you playing and at what level?

gintonic 10-13-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 28282349)
What did you get for $200 total that is great equipment? And how often are you playing and at what level?

beer league, about once a week

I suppose I should qualify that 'great', it all works great for me. I'm trying to do this from memory so I could be off a bit:
NikeBauer4500 helmet
NikeBauer xxx lite gloves
CCM vector elbow and shins
NikeBauer xxx lite pants

all on sale

Jarick 10-13-2010 02:40 PM

Clearance is definitely the way to go. I just listed new gear because a lot of people complain about not being able to get stuff online in Canada.

Did the $200 include skates?

gintonic 10-13-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 28282648)
Clearance is definitely the way to go. I just listed new gear because a lot of people complain about not being able to get stuff online in Canada.

Did the $200 include skates?

no, I had skates so at least I didn't have to get those

AbsolonMoreau* 10-13-2010 05:39 PM

He likes the advice here. He has the money so he said he is buying NOTHING used since it feels weird. This is the stick he is going to buy: http://www.hockeygiant.com/ccm08v2stksr.html Thornton curve, lefty.

Where is a good place to get cheap pads, and stuff? He will be buying an undershirt/armor from EvoShield since he is getting it for baseball anyways. Also, would these help? http://www.allsportsarmour.com/produ...50%20wrist.htm

He said the stick probably wouldn't be much heavier than a 31 oz bat, is that true?


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