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BigFatCat999 10-26-2010 02:45 PM

Who get's the point?
 
Hypothetical question.

Faceoff in an offensive zone and the defending center wins the face off clean and the puck goes to the goalie. In trying to control the puck the goalie accidentally puts it in the net.

Who get's the point if the center at the face off doesn't touch the puck? Bench? The faceoff center?

I'm not saying it's possible but what if it happened?

Ozolinsh_27 10-26-2010 03:10 PM

Faceoff center I believe - usually last person to touch the puck but I don't think refs are always looking at who last touched it if theres a line change and this particular situation happened.

Cowbell232 10-26-2010 03:16 PM

I think it's the center.

Regardless of whether he touched it, he was responsible for it.

Jarick 10-26-2010 03:24 PM

I believe in the NHL they give those goals to the person closest to the net.

TBLfan 10-26-2010 03:29 PM

Yup, the center(or whomever took the faceoff) on the goal scoring team.

tarheelhockey 10-26-2010 03:54 PM

Technically nobody is really deserving of the point, but the officials would give it to the faceoff center as a matter of form. They can't award a goal without putting a number on the scoresheet.

BigFatCat999 10-26-2010 04:27 PM

What I kinda figured it it was either the center or the bench.

GopherState 10-26-2010 04:43 PM

Faceoff center gets it. This actually happened to the Wild a couple years ago against Pittsburgh.

BigFatCat999 10-26-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GopherState (Post 28551242)
Faceoff center gets it. This actually happened to the Wild a couple years ago against Pittsburgh.

Thanks. I was watching the Pred TB game and TB almost did it in their zone so I was curious.

Timmer44 10-26-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GopherState (Post 28551242)
Faceoff center gets it. This actually happened to the Wild a couple years ago against Pittsburgh.

This is true.

Something similar that has always bothered me is that to negate a delayed penalty, you need to get possession of the puck. You can touch it but if it's deemed you didn't actually have possession or control, it doesn't matter. But, if a puck touches your left pant leg on the way into the net it counts as your goal.

TBLfan 10-26-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmer44 (Post 28551667)
This is true.

Something similar that has always bothered me is that to negate a delayed penalty, you need to get possession of the puck. You can touch it but if it's deemed you didn't actually have possession or control, it doesn't matter. But, if a puck touches your left pant leg on the way into the net it counts as your goal.

Well the thing is that a deflection like that can easily be the difference between a goal and a save.

PuckHogs29 10-26-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmer44 (Post 28551667)
This is true.

Something similar that has always bothered me is that to negate a delayed penalty, you need to get possession of the puck. You can touch it but if it's deemed you didn't actually have possession or control, it doesn't matter. But, if a puck touches your left pant leg on the way into the net it counts as your goal.

Those two things are completely separate and unrelated. What if it was swapped and deflection goals didn't count, but a delayed penalty was blown dead on a blocked shot? It's just the way it is. No need to be bothered by it. The last player on the scoring team to touch the puck gets the goal. They can't all be coast to coast highlight reel goals.

Crosbyfan 10-28-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 28550153)
I believe in the NHL they give those goals to the person closest to the net.

Often this is the case, but I think it's more likely given to the guy nearest where the puck came from. Most of the time this is the closest guy as well.

I've seen the forechecker given the goal where a defender skating in full control lets it slip into his own net without the forechecker touching the puck. Obviously in this case he would have been the key guy on the play.

jablueblue 10-28-2010 05:13 PM

You don't need possesion to get credit for a goal, therefore it has nothing to do with possesion during a delayed penalty call

NJDwoot 10-29-2010 04:10 AM

Someting slightly similar... didnt some guy on a team (dont remember which, sorry) get a goal after he was already on the bench? I think this happend recently, like the last few years or somthing.. I only heard a quick blurp about it on tv.


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