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Pax Macioretty 11-05-2010 09:13 AM

Going to the gym the same day you have a game?
 
Good? bad? Doesn't matter?

Brunomics 11-05-2010 10:10 AM

Depends on how soon before the game, I go the same day all the time. If you go in the morning and have a game at night or whatnot it doesn't affect you at all. I wouldn't reccomend going right before your game though then you might have an issue.

Pax Macioretty 11-05-2010 10:16 AM

I want to go in the afternoon and my game is at 11:30 tonight. I want to do cardio for the day, will it affect my energy for tonight?

ponder 11-05-2010 10:20 AM

I go to the gym every M, Tu, Th, F, if I happen to have a game that night I never take the day off. Doesn't seem to affect my game much, if at all, I work out at lunch and my games normally start around 7:30-10:30 pm.

Pax Macioretty 11-05-2010 10:24 AM

Thank you guys, really appreciate it, Cardio for the day it is then lol.

Jarick 11-05-2010 10:47 AM

I wouldn't do cardio on game days, since it eats up glycogen and you want that for the games. A little lifting and flexibility won't hurt and could help if it isn't too intense or close to game time IMO.

frito 11-05-2010 11:41 AM

I think it depends what you do the rest of the day (desk monkey like me, construction worker etc.) I actually have found that I play way better on days when I am working hard doing yard work etc. all day vs. days when I sit behind the desk all day and don't do any physical activity prior to the game. In the latter case, I usually have no skating legs until the third period.

WhipNash27 11-05-2010 01:48 PM

If you're working out your upper body, it shouldn't be too big of a deal (I've done it before). You can probably also do very light cardio, exercise bike, something like that. However, make sure it's quite a few hours before you play.

Squats, Dead lifts, or any exercise that will hit your lower body and lower back is suicide. Heck, even doing any of those things a day before hockey is bad news.

One time I did dead lifts the day before playing. I figured, ah, it's only dead lifts. Next day, by the 2nd period my lower back was so exhausted, I felt like crap the rest of the game.

If you do squats or any kind of leg workout, your legs will be shot in the 1st period.

I tend to try to leave squats/legs, dead lifts & heavy cardio a 48 hour gap before games. Anything else is fair game.

ponder 11-05-2010 03:34 PM

It's one thing if you're playing in a competitive league and going for every ounce of performance, but honestly I will absolutely murder myself with squats and deadlifts and play a game 7-10 hours later and not notice a big drop in endurance/performance, certainly not enough to warrant screwing up my workout schedule for a beer league game. If I haven't been working out regularly, then yes, squats/deadlifts make me useless for days, but once really in the swing of my workout routine (I do squats/deadlifts twice a week) my legs are feeling pretty fine by my nighttime games from a midday workout. I drink a protein shake before and after every workout though, which probably helps my recovery.

For example, on days where I'm busy and skip dinner it affects my performance MUCH more than days where I workout hard midday. Can't really comment on cardio though, as I don't do much cardio at the gym, I play ice and ball hockey a combined 3ish times a weak which is as much cardio as I need IMO.

noobman 11-05-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxpac (Post 28749637)
Good? bad? Doesn't matter?

I've done it before practices and nothing house league games (can't in beer league, the guys are too big/strong for me to sacrifice performance and I couldn't run a 5k to save my life these days :laugh: )... I'd go for a 5k run and do some pushups/pullups about two hours before the game.

Sometimes it felt like it helped be because I was warmed up and stretched out, and other times it hurt. I distinctly remember one game where by the end of the second my legs had absolutely no go at all... I think I was taking 20 second shifts for the entire third.

It was a lot of stress on my body, and in hindsight I almost wish I hadn't done it so much (I missed a ton of games due to injury in the latter half, go figure... patellar tendonitis due to overuse).

Anyways, I don't think it would hurt you too much, especially if you're doing it in the morning and playing at night. Just don't try increasing your max squat by 10% on gameday, or you won't have any legs for the game. The pros usually go for a morning skate on game day... although not being a pro I have no idea how intense that is.

Lario Melieux* 11-05-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DubiSnacks17 (Post 28754038)

Squats, Dead lifts, or any exercise that will hit your lower body and lower back is suicide. Heck, even doing any of those things a day before hockey is bad news.

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WhipNash27 11-05-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ponder (Post 28755779)
It's one thing if you're playing in a competitive league and going for every ounce of performance, but honestly I will absolutely murder myself with squats and deadlifts and play a game 7-10 hours later and not notice a big drop in endurance/performance, certainly not enough to warrant screwing up my workout schedule for a beer league game. If I haven't been working out regularly, then yes, squats/deadlifts make me useless for days, but once really in the swing of my workout routine (I do squats/deadlifts twice a week) my legs are feeling pretty fine by my nighttime games from a midday workout. I drink a protein shake before and after every workout though, which probably helps my recovery.

For example, on days where I'm busy and skip dinner it affects my performance MUCH more than days where I workout hard midday. Can't really comment on cardio though, as I don't do much cardio at the gym, I play ice and ball hockey a combined 3ish times a weak which is as much cardio as I need IMO.

I find it hard to believe that if you're hitting squats or dead lifts at high weight and going as hard as you can go, that you'll be able to play at even a decent level. Do you feel sore the next day? I don't care how long I've been doing squats and dead lifts, if you are really working yourself at the gym, you will be sore the next day. If not, you wasted a workout.

The Tikkanen 11-05-2010 07:46 PM

I prefer to work out directly before I play hockey. I have more energy, I feel strong and awake. I don't do cardio, stick to a 7 minute warmup program on the bike and stick to upper body/core stuff, heavy weight/low reps for explosive muscle that recovers quickly. The key to questions like this is try it out and see if it works for you. I would never do cardio or work out my legs before a game but we're all built differently. What's good for one guy may leave you in a heap on the ice crying about your hamstrings during a game. Next thing you know your teammates are dragging you off the ice by your holders and you've been demoted to the human cone league.

ponder 11-05-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DubiSnacks17 (Post 28758188)
I find it hard to believe that if you're hitting squats or dead lifts at high weight and going as hard as you can go, that you'll be able to play at even a decent level. Do you feel sore the next day? I don't care how long I've been doing squats and dead lifts, if you are really working yourself at the gym, you will be sore the next day. If not, you wasted a workout.

I always go full out at the gym, 3rd set is always to failure, once I can do the full number of reps on the 3rd set I know it's time to move the weight up. I do 3x10, so when first moving to a new weight I can normally do something like 10, 10 and 6 reps, once I get to 10/10/10 I bump the weight up again, this keeps me always going hard. I don't really have the time or patience to do 5-6 sets like some guys, though, which would probably kill my muscles a bit more. I'm always a touch sore the day after a workout, but not that sore unless I've taken some time off. I'm sure it affects my hockey/skating a bit when I do my lower body workout on the same day as hockey, but honestly it's not a major difference for me.

Mithrandir 11-06-2010 01:02 AM

I do cardio EVERY game day, but I either go a good 5+ hours before the game OR I do a light 25 minute bike ride about an hour before I leave for the game.

I don't really lift on gamedays, but I play college puck. Honestly, if I was playing mens league, I wouldn't even blink at this question... I'd go to the gym and do a completely regular work out on gamedays and not even think twice about it.

Swept In Seven 11-06-2010 01:46 AM

terrible idea honestly do not do it you will be sluggish and tired come game time

ponder 11-06-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zetterqvist24 (Post 28768450)
I do cardio EVERY game day, but I either go a good 5+ hours before the game OR I do a light 25 minute bike ride about an hour before I leave for the game.

I don't really lift on gamedays, but I play college puck. Honestly, if I was playing mens league, I wouldn't even blink at this question... I'd go to the gym and do a completely regular work out on gamedays and not even think twice about it.

Indeed, my game takes a minor hit from working out 7-10 hours before games, but slightly worse performance in beer league hockey is definitely better than interrupting my workout schedule. I have on average 3 ice and ball hockey games a week combined, if I were to take 48 hours off every time I lifted my workout schedule would be completely f***ed. I guess everyone's body is different, and recovers differently, if working out on game day is totally killing your game then stop, but for me it's a pretty minor difference (in general I'll start to feel a bit gassed in the early 3rd period if I work out the same day, mid 3rd period if I don't). My muscles are often shaking from exhaustion for a couple hours after my workout, but by the time my games come around (7-10 hours later) I feel quite recovered.

When I was playing more competitively, i.e. on my high school hockey team, I wouldn't do much in the way of weight lifting during the season, but that was also cause I was a lazy b**tard in high school :)

Mithrandir 11-06-2010 01:06 PM

Yeah, basically, if working out a good 5+ hours before a game, especially at the men's league level is effecting your game noticeably than most likely you simply don't work out enough/have good enough stamina and would ultimately benefit from working out MORE, including on game days, and suffering through the fatigue at games for a while until your body catches up and gets used to the rigor. Right now I am in the gym 5-7 days a week. I lift 4 (switching up muscle groups, obviously) and do cardio every day that I go, so either 5, 6, or 7 days. For the college season, I won't lift on game days, and if I lift at all the day before I keep it lighter than usual, but I do cardio regardles. If I play summer men's league or decide to go to drop in skates (usually actually tougher than men's league with the guys I play with) I'll still lift hard earlier in the day.

Briere Up There* 11-06-2010 02:12 PM

If I still played competitively, hell no I wouldn't workout before a game. Maybe chest or something, but definitely not anything that would take away from my game. The fact of the matter is I only worked out on the two off days I had from high school hockey.

Nowadays, who cares if I do squats 4 hours before pickup/beerleague.

Bobby 77 11-08-2010 12:12 PM

I use a dry-land program that creates custom workouts for me. I use a 5 day workout schedule in-season and off-season. The workouts are different depending whether or not your in-season or not but non the less its 5 days a week. I play beer league and agree with Ponder, I'm not screwing up my training schedule for a beer league game. I'm on the ice an average of 2 nights a week and since I have been training on a specific program and I know I have as much left in the tank in the 3rd everyone else. Skipping weight training during the season prevents you from being able to maintain your strength and endurance levels but you need to have the right program.

This is one I use.

Badger36 11-08-2010 05:22 PM

As long as you have at least a few hours for your body to recover it's energy before you game, you should be fine.
I work 40 hours a week in a factory (standing all day long, lots of heavy lifting and contantly moving) as well as working out every day (weight lifting and running for about 30 minutes a day) and Ive still got plenty of energy left over for playing.


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