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Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:13 PM

Ottawa Cleaning House:
 
:sens

[4th Round Pick]
3rd Round Pick

:flyers

Chris Neil


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:sens

Scott Glennie
3rd Round Pick

:stars

Chris Phillips


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:sens

6th Round Pick


:nashville

Alex Kovalev


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:sens

Austin Watson
2nd Round Pick

:nashville

Mike Fisher

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:sens

3rd Round Pick


:bolts

Filip Kuba


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:sens

2nd Round Pick

:bruins

Chris Campoli
5th Round Pick

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:sens

[4th Round Pick]
3rd Round Pick

:hawks

Matt Carkner

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Added:

Ruutu ==> Asking Price: 3rd or 4th Round Pick.

Carlton Orr* 01-21-2011 06:16 PM

I don't think giving up Ottawa's three toughest players is a good idea.

Highbrow 01-21-2011 06:17 PM

1) So who would we be drafting #1 overall next year?
2) Ruutu doesn't get traded?
3) Carkner is only worth a 4th? Ha, we'll keep him!
4) Neil is only worth a 4th? Ha, we'll keep him!

iCanada 01-21-2011 06:19 PM

Edmonton would give you atleast a third for both Carkner and Niel. Likely more.

Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senataur (Post 30368888)
1) So who would we be drafting #1 overall next year?
2) Ruutu doesn't get traded?
3) Carkner is only worth a 4th? Ha, we'll keep him!
4) Neil is only worth a 4th? Ha, we'll keep him!

Ruutu should get traded, I just forgot where I wanted to deal him to :P.

Also, I don't think we'd be in last place next year if we cleaned house. A lot of those guys are UFA's.

TrollololBoyle 01-21-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 30368815)

:sens

Austin Watson
2nd Round Pick

:nashville

Mike Fisher

I think it would be awesome to see Mike Fisher in Nashville, solely because Carrie Underwood is from Oklahoma, they're not neighboring states, but they're close. Then there is the music factor which Nashville is known and famous for. Fisher also fits Nashville's style of play very well imo.

Lord Ahriman 01-21-2011 06:26 PM

We have no need for Campoli. We need top 4 PMD.

Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ahriman (Post 30369059)
We have no need for Campoli. We need top 4 PMD.

Right. Which is what Campoli is. He's a #4 puck mover.

Dagoon44 01-21-2011 06:30 PM

Spezza and Carkner to the Rangers
Grechev , DelZotto Weise and a 2nd to Sens?

TrollololBoyle 01-21-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagoon44 (Post 30369126)
Spezza and Carkner to the Rangers
Grechev , DelZotto Weise and a 2nd to Sens?

I don't do this, solely because I am not a Spezza fan.

Edgeworth* 01-21-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatsyukSOGoal (Post 30369189)
I don't do this, solely because I am not a Spezza fan.

Niether is Ottawa, please do it :help:

Lord Ahriman 01-21-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 30369084)
Right. Which is what Campoli is. He's a #4 puck mover.

Campoli can be top 4 in Ottawa, not here.

WJG 01-21-2011 06:37 PM

Kovalev for Grachev

Dagoon44 01-21-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatsyukSOGoal (Post 30369189)
I don't do this, solely because I am not a Spezza fan.

Datsyuk
I rarely post trades do you think the values are equal on that deal? Just asking cause to me it is

Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ahriman (Post 30369244)
Campoli can be top 4 in Ottawa, not here.

Uh huh. I'm sure he'll just forget how to play hockey in Boston.

Quote:

Spezza and Carkner to the Rangers
Grechev , DelZotto Weise and a 2nd to Sens?
Did you see Spezza in the initial post? There's a reason for that.

skip2mybordeleau 01-21-2011 06:43 PM

yeah fisher isnt worth a 1st and a 2nd

EliasR8 01-21-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 30368815)
:sens


:sens

Scott Glennie
3rd Round Pick

:stars

Chris Phillips


Why would the Stars ever do that deal?

Do Make Say Think 01-21-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ahriman (Post 30369244)
Campoli can be top 4 in Ottawa, not here.

He is. He's been solid this year. Added a lot of fight to his game and has learned to defend because he's has to keep an eye on Kuba and such. He is also not afraid of the boards anymore.

He would be a good player for Boston.

SixthSens 01-21-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ahriman (Post 30369244)
Campoli can be top 4 in Ottawa, not here.

Yeah, because we don't have a clue about a player that we watch every game, meanwhile somebody who I'm guessing gets to view him less then 10 games per year (if that) has a more informed opinion.

Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gali39 (Post 30369402)
yeah fisher isnt worth a 1st and a 2nd

Sigh. In the non-hf boards world, just because someone was drafted as a first round pick doesn't make it cumulative.

I.E., Brian Lee + Patrick Eaves is not worth Henrik Zetterberg or Pavel Datsyuk.

If you want to argue about he's not worth Austin Watson and a 2nd, fine. It's stupid and pointless to suggest he's not worth a 1st and a 2nd.

Andre Benoit Bawls 01-21-2011 06:55 PM

The Dallas deal is awful, it'd be like us giving up Cowen+2nd for Dan Hamhuis last year... Nashville is also way above Fishers value. Aside from that, the only deal I'd do is the Kuba one.

Rover* 01-21-2011 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDIR8 (Post 30369443)
Why would the Stars ever do that deal?

Value is definitely off but Stars do need an improvement on their backend.

Pyke* 01-21-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The OttoMan (Post 30369695)
The Dallas deal is awful, it'd be like us giving up Cowen+2nd for Dan Hamhuis last year... Nashville is also way above Fishers value. Aside from that, the only deal I'd do is the Kuba one.

It's not comparable to Cowen + 2nd.

It's comparable to Eaves + 2nd or Foligno + 2nd or another middle to late 1st round pick.

I don't have a problem with either of the above for Hamhuis.


EDIT: To be clear, I also think Scott Glennie, due to size, is less likely to be an impact player (despite his high draft ranking). I also think the asking price for Chris Phillips will be a prospect of that caliber at minimum.

Andre Benoit Bawls 01-21-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 30369657)
Sigh. In the non-hf boards world, just because someone was drafted as a first round pick doesn't make it cumulative.

I.E., Brian Lee + Patrick Eaves is not worth Henrik Zetterberg or Pavel Datsyuk.

If you want to argue about he's not worth Austin Watson and a 2nd, fine. It's stupid and pointless to suggest he's not worth a 1st and a 2nd.

What in the world is stupid about that? And yeah, I think someone being drafted like 6 months ago in the first round of a deep draft indicates he is the equivalent value of a 1st.

Jumping 01-21-2011 07:00 PM

Flyers are ok w/o Neil.


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