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dkollidas 01-31-2011 07:18 PM

2011 Top-5 pick
 
What would it take to move up to that spot.

For example from a team picking 8-12 overall to move up...

Maybe this...

2011 1st
2012 1st
2012 2nd

Enough? Too much?

This is basically what Boston paid for Kessel I believe, correct me if I'm mistaken

Brodeur 01-31-2011 07:39 PM

It's tough to gauge, you rarely see a team picking in the top 5 trade down more than a handful of spots. With most drafts, there's a top tier and teams usually don't want to fall out that spot. This draft seems to have a consensus top tier of 4 between Couturier/Larsson/RNH/Landeskog.

The closest recent example was 2004 when Columbus traded the 4th overall pick to Carolina for the 8th overall pick and a late 2nd rounder. It was a weaker draft year and most thought there was a drop in talent after Ovechkin, Malkin, and (contain the laughter) Cam Barker.

In 2008, it cost Toronto a high 3rd and a future 2nd to move up from #7 to #5 to take Luke Schenn. The Islanders moved from #7 to #9 and #40. So by the end, the Islanders traded #5 for #9, #40, #68, and a future 2nd.

Realistically, you'd have to plug in the two teams that would be involved with the transaction. It's tough to have a blanket statement that a #4 overall pick is worth a certain amount, since each team would value it different based on who's available.

For me, it'd really depend on how I felt about the 2012 Draft along with how I felt about the other team faring in 2011-12. If I projected them to yield a top-5 pick, I'd have to give it some thought. If I projected them to be a playoff contender, I'd probably politely decline.

chopkins 01-31-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkollidas (Post 30572124)
What would it take to move up to that spot.

For example from a team picking 8-12 overall to move up...

Maybe this...

2011 1st
2012 1st
2012 2nd

Enough? Too much?

This is basically what Boston paid for Kessel I believe, correct me if I'm mistaken

Way too much, especially in this draft.

And using Kessel to gauge value isn't exactly accurate. :laugh:

CREW99AW 01-31-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkollidas (Post 30572124)
What would it take to move up to that spot.

For example from a team picking 8-12 overall to move up...

Maybe this...

2011 1st
2012 1st
2012 2nd

Enough? Too much?

This is basically what Boston paid for Kessel I believe, correct me if I'm mistaken

Last draft Snow sitting with the 5th overall pick,was willing to move his pick if he'd gotten a young,potential stud for the pick.

I'm guessing that unless he falls in love with one particular 2011 prospect,he'll again be open to moving his pick for a 20-22 yr old with high upside.


2010 draft
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=28980
The Islanders will also field offers to trade their pick, but it is believed that Snow would be unwilling to part with it unless he received a comparable young NHL player or prospect. If Snow was offered a player similar to the player he plans on drafting with 2-4 years of additional experience, he'd consider making the swap to expedite the team's development..

almostawake 01-31-2011 07:48 PM

It depends who's still on the board. If one of the top 4 (RNH, Couturier, Larsson, Landeskog) are still there at #4 or #5 and the team holding the pick really likes him, then #8, a future 1st and a future 2nd won't get it done.

If the team holding the pick doesn't like the player that's left over then they'll listen to offers and I think that a future 1st and a future 2nd would be more than enough.

Crede777 01-31-2011 07:50 PM

Assuming Columbus is drafting at #8 but wants to draft #5... I'd say a fair offer would be Filatov + #8 for #5.

As someone said before me, you have to figure in what two teams are going to be doing the trading.


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