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LightningStrikes 02-08-2011 03:44 PM

Complete Rebranding, New Logo & Arena Renovations - Part II
 
Part I: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=865200

Last three posts:
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Originally Posted by Insomniac (Post 30748936)
:handclap::handclap:

I am still hoping the negative feedback overwhelms them to a point they have to realize they ****ed up.

Clearly they won't back down as they think they've found something amazing. But hopefully enough negative reinforcement from their fans will make them consider the flaw of their decision.

icethetics had all the concepts from the process, I cannot believe they chose what they have now over all those. Just really pathetic.

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Originally Posted by LightningStrikes (Post 30749371)
I have to correct myself: Icethetics has some screenshots of FS Midwest (link). They used a blue version of the logo. Now that's even weirder, that SunSports uses the logo with the white (away) background logo and an out-of-town broadcast uses the blue (home). Nonetheless, both used the version with "Tampa Bay" on top which was my actual concern.

They also have some close-up screenshots of the NY Times' video posted above by TBLbrifri: Link.

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Originally Posted by DangleDoppler (Post 30749463)
I still like it. Even more now, after seeing it in person, and after watching the video...Sunday I gave up my contact info to a ticket rep for season tickets, and I'm just waiting on her to call me back with my seats to put down the 20%....The kicker was buying season tickets for next year gets me "priority seating" for the playoffs this year! Super stoked to finally be a season ticket holder...

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IdealisticSniper 02-08-2011 03:48 PM

Got an email about meeting my rep and locking in my season tix for next season. No numbers though. Anyone get any numbers out of them yet?

EDIT: Wow. Just got the email. To all of you people saying Vinik is only doing the improvements to the building etc to jusitfy raising ticket pricing. I was just told my season tickets will be the same price as they were this year.

Amazing.

chasespace 02-08-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdealisticSniper (Post 30749645)
Got an email about meeting my rep and locking in my season tix for next season. No numbers though. Anyone get any numbers out of them yet?

EDIT: Wow. Just got the email. To all of you people saying Vinik is only doing the improvements to the building etc to jusitfy raising ticket pricing. I was just told my season tickets will be the same price as they were this year.

Amazing.

Throw in a jersey and first dibs on playoff tickets and Mr. Vinik has just handed you a steal.

Tokala 02-08-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdealisticSniper (Post 30749645)
Got an email about meeting my rep and locking in my season tix for next season. No numbers though. Anyone get any numbers out of them yet?

EDIT: Wow. Just got the email. To all of you people saying Vinik is only doing the improvements to the building etc to jusitfy raising ticket pricing. I was just told my season tickets will be the same price as they were this year.

Amazing.

I've been sitting in 316 since October 1996. I've seen ticket prices fluctuate between $500-$1400. Since my seats are within the magical 7 rows from the top, I've been getting the $239 deal the last couple of seasons.

I asked my rep about ticket prices for 2011-12 on Friday. He showed my the seating chart and prices. My seats will increase to about $1100 unless I renew by March 25. If I renew, in full, by March 25, they stay at $239. My credit card will be used on Match 25 for $239.

BeachBolt 02-08-2011 04:20 PM

I haven't gotten an email yet! Dang it, you guys are making me anxious :cry: haha

IdealisticSniper 02-08-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokala (Post 30750228)
I've been sitting in 316 since October 1996. I've seen ticket prices fluctuate between $500-$1400. Since my seats are within the magical 7 rows from the top, I've been getting the $239 deal the last couple of seasons.

I asked my rep about ticket prices for 2011-12 on Friday. He showed my the seating chart and prices. My seats will increase to about $1100 unless I renew by March 25. If I renew, in full, by March 25, they stay at $239. My credit card will be used on Match 25 for $239.

:laugh::laugh:

Technically your seats were that $1100 more than what you pay for this year but you have been able to lock in your current pricing. Same thing with me and my friends.

IdealisticSniper 02-08-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasespace (Post 30750172)
Throw in a jersey and first dibs on playoff tickets and Mr. Vinik has just handed you a steal.

Jersey yes, but I would have dibs on my seats for the playoffs this year since Im currently a season ticket holder anyways.

But yes its a good deal once again especially when you include the free jerseys+guaranteed giveaways+discounts on food and merch.

Felonious Python 02-08-2011 05:44 PM

I rewrote some of my last post on this, since quite a lot of it didn't make a whole lot of sense. I was writing stream-of-consciousness, and that can get confusing when there's so much of it.

If I can expand on that here, a bit more:

A factor that was apparently not considered, was not only the impression of 'professionalism' that the classic era teams wanted to exude, but what the patrons of the day expected.

Hockey wasn't always available to the plastic-sitters like it is now. Seeing a game used to be something that you dressed up to go to. Top hats and ****.

Does the new Lightning logo seem appropriate for top hat fare (who wish to see blood)? It's chillaxed enough to appeal to the sandwich grabbers, and there's the problem.

Professional hockey's history is top-down. Economically speaking. So the older the logos get, the more they look like they belong at a yacht club. Ours looks like a d-bag wearing a backwards cap on a jet ski.

Habs 4 Life 02-08-2011 06:40 PM

question. Bolts are changing the road and home jerseys, are they keeping the current 3rds?

CommunistDayKare 02-08-2011 06:42 PM

It seems like they are but tweaking them for the new logo

Habs 4 Life 02-08-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommunistDayKare (Post 30753340)
It seems like they are but tweaking them for the new logo

Thank you

I want to purchase a Stamkos jersey, I guess it's not worth it for this year. I actually like the 3rd one, and hadn't heard anything so I would have purchesed one, guess I'll wait

CommunistDayKare 02-08-2011 06:52 PM

This is what the official site says:

What will happen to the "Bolts" third jersey? We still have the option to wear the third jersey moving forward if we so choose. The jersey would need some minor alterations (ie shoulder patch) if we elect to move forward with it, but the blue jersey with the white B-O-L-T-S lettering would remain as is.

Habs 4 Life 02-08-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommunistDayKare (Post 30753676)
This is what the official site says:

What will happen to the "Bolts" third jersey? We still have the option to wear the third jersey moving forward if we so choose. The jersey would need some minor alterations (ie shoulder patch) if we elect to move forward with it, but the blue jersey with the white B-O-L-T-S lettering would remain as is.

Thanks CDK

OG Kuch 02-08-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommunistDayKare (Post 30753676)
This is what the official site says:

What will happen to the "Bolts" third jersey? We still have the option to wear the third jersey moving forward if we so choose. The jersey would need some minor alterations (ie shoulder patch) if we elect to move forward with it, but the blue jersey with the white B-O-L-T-S lettering would remain as is.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse...

Put the friggin shoulder patch on the front!

TheDaysOf 04 02-08-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad2891 (Post 30754097)
Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse...

Put the friggin shoulder patch on the front!

They aren't making a new jersey, just updating it.

OG Kuch 02-08-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaysOf 04 (Post 30754599)
They aren't making a new jersey, just updating it.

That's why I'm upset.

TheDaysOf 04 02-08-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad2891 (Post 30754642)
That's why I'm upset.

But how does switching the shoulder patches make it worse, if you like the new shoulder patch?

Stammer Time 02-08-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felonious Python (Post 30751838)
I rewrote some of my last post on this, since quite a lot of it didn't make a whole lot of sense. I was writing stream-of-consciousness, and that can get confusing when there's so much of it.

If I can expand on that here, a bit more:

A factor that was apparently not considered, was not only the impression of 'professionalism' that the classic era teams wanted to exude, but what the patrons of the day expected.

Hockey wasn't always available to the plastic-sitters like it is now. Seeing a game used to be something that you dressed up to go to. Top hats and ****.

Does the new Lightning logo seem appropriate for top hat fare (who wish to see blood)? It's chillaxed enough to appeal to the sandwich grabbers, and there's the problem.

Professional hockey's history is top-down. Economically speaking. So the older the logos get, the more they look like they belong at a yacht club. Ours looks like a d-bag wearing a backwards cap on a jet ski.

Would you feel better if people start wearing Top hats to games?

PhysicalGraffiti 02-08-2011 08:11 PM

http://www.icethetics.info/

Look at all those other options, most FAR superior to what they chose.

Still doesn't appear to have anything that good in terms of design skill. I've seen people on forums with tons more talent and better logos than these guys. They really aren't that good.

The hell were they thinking? They had plenty of better options. I love the Zeus ones and the ones with several Lightning bolts.

Fail Vinik and Y, fail.

LightningStrikes 02-08-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insomniac (Post 30756523)
http://www.icethetics.info/

Look at all those other options, most FAR superior to what they chose.

Still doesn't appear to have anything that good in terms of design skill. I've seen people on forums with tons more talent and better logos than these guys. They really aren't that good.

The hell were they thinking? They had plenty of better options. I love the Zeus ones and the ones with several Lightning bolts.

Fail Vinik and Y, fail.

The grass is always greener on the other side, right? I don't like any of those other options in that NY Times video at all. The Zeus stuff is cool but that's no primary logo material. It's the kind of stuff you get tired of after a while. It's too much, too cartoonish, too immature.

I like simple and minimalistic logos and jerseys, therefore I like the new color scheme, the new striping, the new patch logo. I'm still not sold on the oval circle in the primary logo* as well as the "Tampa Bay" on the away jerseys, and maybe adding the victory stripes wouldn't have hurt but yeah, I'm totally okay with the new look. Tastes differ.

Vinik, Leiweke, Yzerman & Co have done a tremendous job so far in every possible aspect. Let's give it a little time. After all, we haven't even seen them in game action yet.


*Edit: This would be my suggestion for the primary logo: Just the inner circle of the patch logo. It has a much higher value of brand recognition. It reminds of our old logos and combines both classic and modern aspects.

Behold! Mad Paint skills:

http://www.abload.de/img/suggvev3.jpg

CommunistDayKare 02-08-2011 09:03 PM

I like using the bolt from the shoulder logo.

Those other suggestions though? IMO they're pure rubbish. I'd take the final design over all of those.

PhysicalGraffiti 02-08-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningStrikes (Post 30757158)
The grass is always greener on the other side, right? I don't like any of those other options in that NY Times video at all. The Zeus stuff is cool but that's no primary logo material. It's the kind of stuff you get tired of after a while. It's too much, too cartoonish, too immature.

I like simple and minimalistic logos and jerseys, therefore I like the new color scheme, the new striping, the new patch logo. I'm still not sold on the oval circle in the primary logo* as well as the "Tampa Bay" on the away jerseys, and maybe adding the victory stripes wouldn't have hurt but yeah, I'm totally okay with the new look. Tastes differ.

Vinik, Leiweke, Yzerman & Co have done a tremendous job so far in every possible aspect. Let's give it a little time. After all, we haven't even seen them in game action yet.


*Edit: This would be my suggestion for the primary logo: Just the inner circle of the patch logo. It has a much higher value of brand recognition. It reminds of our old logos and combines both classic and modern aspects.

Behold! Mad Paint skills:

http://www.abload.de/img/suggvev3.jpg

See I hate plain and bland. And that is what the new scheme is. The other logos are much more in depth, which when being a pro sports team, should know it would be a better look. No one will get bored with a great logo.

The Blackhawks have a pretty in depth logo that hasn't gone through much change. Ours could be drawn by an 8 year old.

Plain and bland is not what this team has been about, as we are not one of the original teams Stevie Y thinks we are. This crappy logo and bland redesign shows laziness and lack of creativity.

The new logo is something a high school team would have, on a low budget. With all the cool logos and schemes out there, and talented and well paid people, you think we could have had something better.

It's a shame.

OG Kuch 02-08-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaysOf 04 (Post 30754824)
But how does switching the shoulder patches make it worse, if you like the new shoulder patch?

I'm saying we should put the shoulder patch logo on the front of the jersey.

TBLHoser 02-08-2011 09:35 PM

At this point, the players can wear what the team says they're gonna wear but that logo ain't gonna show up on me. Not even a keychain. And that's what counts. Merchandise sales. The logo on the ice, the logos on the walls, painted on the floors doesn't bring in the money. No sales and this thing dies on the vine....

I'm contemplating buying a third before they bugger it up.

ThunderAlleyNomad 02-08-2011 10:13 PM

I'm not sure how much worse the merchandise sales on the new stuff will actually be. Sales suck out loud now, with all the wonderful traditional stuff that everybody loves so much.


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