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nyr2k2 09-19-2010 10:59 AM

2010-2011 Rangers Prospects Thread (Juniors, NCAA, International, Other) *Part 4*
 

**LAST UPDATED: WEDNESDAY 4/6/2011 @ 9:00 PM EST**
DENOTES 2010 NHL ENTRY DRAFT SELECTION
# DENOTES ACTIVE INJURY -- INJURY REPORT BOTTOM TABLE

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JUNIOR PROSPECTS -- OHL, WHL, LHJMQ
Player Pos.DOB H/WGames Goals Assists Points +/- PIM Team/LeagueDrafted
Bourque, RyanLW1/3/19915'9"/16449263359+1422Remparts de Québec/LHJMQRd. 3 #80 NYR (2009)
Horák, RomanC5/21/19916'1"/17064265278-760Chilliwack Bruins/WHLRd. 5 #127 NYR (2009)
Maggio, Daniel*RD3/4/19916'3"/2024421214+597Oshawa Generals/OHLRd. 6 #170 NYR (2009)
McIlrath, DylanRD4/20/19926'5"/2156251823E153Moose Jaw Warriors/WHLRd. 1 #10 NYR (2010)
McNaught, Randy†#RW8/5/19906'4"/2218112-627Vancouver Giants/WHLRd. 7 #190 NYR (2010)
Thomas, ChristianRW5/26/19925'9"/17066544599+2038Oshawa Generals/OHLRd. 2 #40 NYR (2010)
Werek, EthanC 6/7/19916'2"/18847242852-351Kingston Frontenacs/OHLRd. 2 #47 NYR (2009)
Wilson, JasonLW4/15/19906'3"/20864182543+2094Niagara IceDogs/OHLRd. 5 #130 NYR (2010)
Yogan, AndrewC12/4/19916'3"/20010314+16Erie Otters/OHLRd. 4 #100 NYR (2010)
Player Pos.DOB H/W Games Wins Losses OTL GAA SV% SO Team/LeagueDrafted
Missiaen, JasonG4/25/19906'8"/22053103373.33.8931Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQUndrafted
Stajcer, Scott#G6/14/19916'3"/1961410302.91.9011Owen Sound Attack/OHLRd. 5 #140 NYR (2009)
*Dan Maggio traded from Guelph Storm to Oshawa Generals; statistics are cumulative [12/17/2010]


UNITED STATES COLLEGE PROSPECTS -- NCAA
Player Pos.DOB H/W Yr. Games Goals Assists Points +/- PIMTeam/LeagueDrafted
Campbell, MaxC12/21/19886'0"/190Sr.42181735+116Western Michigan Broncos/CCHARd. 5 #138 NYR (2007)
Grant, TommyLW8/29/19866'2"/194Sr.37161632-757Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves/WCHAUndrafted
Hagelin, CarlLW8/23/19886'0"/185Sr.42183048+2139Michigan Wolverines/CCHARd. 6 #168 NYR (2007)
Hobbs, DanielC2/22/19896'0"/196Jr.31121628+420Massachusetts Minutemen/HERd. 7 #198 NYR (2007)
Kreider, ChrisLW4/30/19916'2"/205So.32111324E37Boston College Eagles/HERd. 1 #19 NYR (2009)


INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS -- KHL, ELH, SZLH, SEL
Player Pos. DOB H/W Games Goals Assists Points +/- PIM Team/LeagueDrafted
Bahenský, ZdeněkRW1/3/19866'2"/2005210717-257BK Mladá Boleslav/Tipsport ExtraligaRd. 3 #73 NYR (2004)
Fasth, JesperRW2/12/19916'0"/176367916+66HV71/ElitserienRd. 6 #157 NYR (2010)
Květoň, DavidRW1/3/19885'11"/18552141832+1126HC Oceláři Třinec/Tipsport ExtraligaRd. 4 #104 NYR (2006)
Pashnin, MikhailLD5/11/19896'0"/18543224-1138HC CSKA Moscow/KHLRd. 7 #200 NYR (2009)
Pšurný, RomanLW2/23/19866'1"/19152101727+1730HC Mountfield/Tipsport ExtraligaRd. 5 #135 NYR (2005)
Skokan, DávidRW12/6/19886'0"/18763141125-286HC Slovan Bratislava/Slovnaft ExtraligaRd. 7 #193 NYR (2007)
Zeliska, LukášLW1/8/19885'11"/1703701010-622MHC Martin/Slovnaft ExtraligaRd. 7 #204 NYR (2006)


OTHER PROSPECTS -- ECHL, CHL, CIS
Player Pos. DOB H/W Games Goals Assists Points +/- PIM Team/LeagueDrafted
Baldwin, LeeLD4/26/19886'4"/205272810+1015Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUndrafted
Beller, GregLW1/22/19876'3"/2102281422+622Manitoba Bison/CISRd. 6 #178 NYR (2005)
Chappell, ChrisLW3/21/19886'4"/2155391221-538Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUndrafted
Dowzak, TysenLD3/8/19886'5"/21263358+2100Dayton Gems/CHLUndrafted
Hunter, EricLW8/11/19866'1"/19425101323+1037Alberta Golden Bears/CISRd. 6 #174 NYR (2006)
Klassen, SamLD1/1/19896'2"/2056631417+1680Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUndrafted
McCue, MatthewLD7/5/19886'5"/21843156-2132Dayton Gems/CHLUndrafted


CONNECTICUT WHALE PROSPECTS
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT TO CONNECTICUT WHALE (AHL)
Player Pos. DOB H/W Games Goals Assists Points +/- PIM Team/LeagueDrafted
Donati, Tyler#RW10/17/19865'10"/18018101121E34Elmira Jackals/ECHLUndrafted
Parlett, Blake*LD5/13/19896'1"/2054672532-340Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUndrafted
Wong, BrandonC11/30/19865'10"/18564212546+1423Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLundrafted
*Blake Parlett recalled to Connecticut Whale (AHL) [2/17/2011]


2010 TRAVERSE CITY TOURNAMENT/ROOKIE CAMP INVITEES
PLAYERS HAVE NO PROFESSIONAL CONTRACT
Player Pos. DOB H/W Games Goals Assists Points +/- PIM Team/LeagueDrafted
Barnett, JTLW8/21/19926'1"/19272133043-2037Kamloops Blazers/WHLUndrafted
Bast, JasonC6/2/19895'10"/1812832427-128St. Francis Xavier X-Men/CISUndrafted
Martin, ColinLW6/12/19916'3"/21265182341-984London Knights/OHLUndrafted
Peroff, KennethRD9/22/19896'0"/19128268-212Guelph Gryphons/CISUndrafted
Shinnimin, BrendanC1/7/19915'10"/18060346298+2084Tri-City Americans/WHLUndrafted
Player Pos.DOB H/W Games Wins Losses Ties GAA SV% SO Team/LeagueDrafted
Kinkaid, KeithG7/4/19896'3"/18038241031.99.9203Union College Dutchmen/ECACUndrafted
Robbins, BrianG4/30/19916'0"/1704463625.54.8921Capital District Selects/EJHLUndrafted


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PLAYOFF SCORING
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/League
Bahenský, Zdeněk12437-216 Mladá Boleslav/Tipsport Extraliga
Baldwin, Lee2011-12Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Bast, Jason1261117+78St. Francis Xavier X-Men/CIS
Beller, Greg2000-20Manitoba Bison/CIS
Bourque, Ryan4156+10Remparts de Québec/LHJMQ
Chappell, Chris2000-14Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Dowzak, Tysen3011E2Dayton Gems/CHL
Fasth, Jesper3000-30HV71/Elitserien
Horak, Roman5123-40Chilliwack Bruins/WHL
Hunter, Eric4022-14Alberta Golden Bears/CIS
Klassen, Sam2101+20Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Maggio, Daniel5112-112Oshawa Generals/OHL
Martin, Colin4022-111London Knights/OHL
McCue, Matthew2000-12Dayton Gems/CHL
McIlrath, Dylan6000E15Moose Jaw Warriors/WHL
Peroff, Kenneth8022E0Guelph Gryphons/CIS
Shinnimin, Brendan4145+110Tri-City Americans/WHL
Thomas, Christian55813+120Oshawa Generals/OHL
Werek, Ethan3033E12Kingston Frontenacs/OHL
Wilson, Jason4123+14Niagara IceDogs/OHL
Wong, Brandon2112+12Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Yogan, Andrew3022-14Erie Otters/OHL
PlayerGamesWinsLossesOTLGAASV%SOTeam/League
Stajcer, Scott10000.001.000Owen Sound Attack/OHL


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2011 IIHF U20 WORLD JUNIOR HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam
Bourque, Ryan6033-14United States
Fasth, Jesper6426+40Sweden
Horák, Roman5011-24United States
Kreider, Chris6426E0United States


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PROSPECT INJURY UPDATES
PlayerInjuryDurationDate of Injury
Donati, TylerShoulder separationSeason2/2/2011
McNaught, RandyAnkle surgerySeason12/1/2010
Stajcer, ScottHip surgeryLate March12/16/2010


Previous Rangers Prospects Threads:
2010-2011
Rangers Prospects Thread 2010-2011 *Part 1*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=820268
Rangers Prospects Thread 2010-2011 *Part 2*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=842566
Rangers Prospects Thread 2010-2011 *Part 3*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=859334

2009-2010
Rangers Prospects Thread 2009-2010 *Part 1*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=683462
Rangers Prospects Thread 2009-2010 *Part 2*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=719935
Rangers Prospects Thread 2009-2010 *Part 3*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=750330
Rangers Prospects Thread 2009-2010 *Part 4*: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=769775


HF Boards Rangers Prospect Rankings:
2010-2011
Winter Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=876467
Summer Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=815649

2009-2010
Winter Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=736503
Summer Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=674430

2008-2009
Spring Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=630510
Summer Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=539941

2007-2008
Winter Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=481275
Summer Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=405833

2006-2007
Winter Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=345207
Summer Rankings: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=274833


Rangers Prospects Information:
HF Rangers 2010 Entry Draft Review: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._draft_review/
HF Rangers Blog: http://hfrangersblog.com/
HF Rangers Prospect Rankings: http://hockeysfuture.com/teams/new_york_rangers
HockeyDB--The Internet Hockey Database: http://hockeydb.com
HockeyDB New York Rangers Draft History: http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007089.html
HockeyDB Search Extension for Firefox: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-eng...?name=hockeydb
Hockey-Reference.com: http://hockey-reference.com/
NYR.com Prospect Central: http://rangers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=65394
The Prospect Park: http://theprospectpark.blogspot.com/


League Links:
Canadian Interuniversity Sport: http://english.cis-sic.ca/sports/mice/index
Central Hockey League: http://centralhockeyleague.com
East Coast Hockey League: http://echl.com
Eastern Junior Hockey League: http://easternjunior.pointstreaksite...nior/home-page
Elitserien: http://stats.swehockey.se/
International Ice Hockey Federation: http://iihf.com/
Kontinental Hockey League: http://en.khl.ru
Ligue de Hockey Junior Majeur du Québec: http://en.lhjmq.qc.ca/
NCAA Hockey: http://uscho.com
Ontario Hockey League: http://ontariohockeyleague.com
Slovnaft Extraliga: http://szlh.sk/uvod
SM-liiga: http://sm-liiga.fi/ajankohtaista/in-english.html
Tipsport Extraliga: http://hokej.cz
Western Hockey League: http://whl.ca

Wraparounds 02-15-2011 03:23 PM

AGrossRecord Andrew Gross
#NYRangers prospect Chris Kreider: "(Discussion on turning pro) is not going to come up until after the season."
#NYRangers Chris Kreider on Tortorella's comments: "That's certainly a good confidence booster for myself."

Bluenote13 02-15-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAGLine (Post 30941160)
I think Kreider would have been in the AHL, most likely. But I'm fine with him playing college for 1 more year. He's said he plans to turn pro after this year.

Big fish in a little pond, then little fish in big pond. That is a good way to grow a leader.

Dubinsky, Cally, Staal, Girardi, Stepan, etc - all started their full time pro careers at 20 or later, Kreider will be 20 entering his first full pro season:D

RangerBoy 02-15-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

“Obviously, I need to sit down and talk to my parents about it, my coaches, my adviser,” said Kreider, the 19th overall pick in the 2009 NHL Draft. “It’s not going to come up until after the season. Right now, it’s not really coming up for discussion.

“It’s good to hear, obviously, you want the support of the staff,” Kreider added. “That’s certainly a good confidence booster for myself. But just like last summer. I have to take every opinion into my decision. but it’s good to hear.”

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/r...any_decisions/

TrollololBoyle 02-15-2011 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 30941894)

I'll take that as a "I'm turning pro once the season is over".

CH2 02-15-2011 03:55 PM



Hagelin's 2 assists in Michigan's 3-2 win over Ohio State. The first one is a hell of a pass cross ice, the second he shows good puck control before he makes kind of a pass to Caporusso.

PBC9400 02-15-2011 04:03 PM

Pavel Valentenko
 
This guy looks like he has made some progress down in CT. I used to follow Sauer when he was in Hartford and every year his +/- got better and better throughout the season and year by year. Valentenko started the year off slow, like McDonagh, adapting to the game-play. I remember at one point, while CT was probably doing pretty bad as well, Valentenko was a -7. Now he is at +10. After all the previous success that our kids have had plugging holes, why not give this kid a shot in Eminger's place? At least while DZ is down in CT where he should be at this point this season and if Eminger is just going to be a dressed body. He has a cannon, from what his scouting report said when he was in the running to make the team this off-season. We could plug him up here for a few games, check him out, give him a shot on the PP and see if he can get his shot through. Its only worth a shot if we are not going to acquire one of the bigger names at the deadline though. I know he is not a legitimate offensive defensmen but we could definitely use a shot back there. He isn't known as a defensive guy only neither.

wolfgaze 02-15-2011 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CH2 (Post 30942479)

Hagelin's 2 assists in Michigan's 3-2 win over Ohio State. The first one is a hell of a pass cross ice, the second he shows good puck control before he makes kind of a pass to Caporusso.

Thanks for posting.

NYR Viper 02-15-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBC9400 (Post 30942743)
This guy looks like he has made some progress down in CT. I used to follow Sauer when he was in Hartford and every year his +/- got better and better throughout the season and year by year. Valentenko started the year off slow, like McDonagh, adapting to the game-play. I remember at one point, while CT was probably doing pretty bad as well, Valentenko was a -7. Now he is at +10. After all the previous success that our kids have had plugging holes, why not give this kid a shot in Eminger's place? At least while DZ is down in CT where he should be at this point this season and if Eminger is just going to be a dressed body. He has a cannon, from what his scouting report said when he was in the running to make the team this off-season. We could plug him up here for a few games, check him out, give him a shot on the PP and see if he can get his shot through. Its only worth a shot if we are not going to acquire one of the bigger names at the deadline though. I know he is not a legitimate offensive defensmen but we could definitely use a shot back there. He isn't known as a defensive guy only neither.

I'm a big fan of Valentenko. I am really hoping he stays another season as I thought he was NHL ready this season. His snarl and physicality is awesome on the back-end and he is not afraid to just rip shots from the point which is something this team does not have.

Hopefully someone is telling him he is a part of this teams future so that he doesnt run back to Russia because I think he can be a solid NHL defenseman.

Ola 02-15-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupersonicMonkey (Post 30934688)
-----

3- His IQ.

The IQ thing was always bogus, IMO. He was more inexperienced then had low IQ. He's a very intelligent person. He's also always been able to adapt and progress quickly at each level. He focused on, worked on, and developed all the areas he needed to to round out his game and become a better overall player. All signs of NOT having poor hockey IQ.
-----

I don't agree.

I would like to make a statement:
-Get Kreider into certain -- not all that unusual -- situations, and he can take advantage of them like few others.

Does anyone agree?

Then, why doesn't he? Its simple, he can not find them for himself. He goes up and down the ice like a train on tracks, but doesn't get involved in situation where he can use his speed -- besides the few and far between chances when the puck lands on his stick...

Call it IQ, call it creativity, call it what you want. But there is plenty and further plenty of players at any level, in any league, the SEL, the KHL, the WHL, the QMJHL, OHL, the AHL, college and the NHL, or scratch that, there are plenty and further plenty of players on any team, in all the mentioned leagues -- who can create and find open ice for themselves. We shouldn't exagerate, but Kreider just aint good at that.

Kreider in college is more dominant in terms of speed/strength then AO is in the NHL. Kreider is scoring is, what 0,6 pts/game?, in college. Kreider have fantastic abilities for sure, and I can't see how he can't make it to the NHL and I think odds are very good that he will become a good NHLer. But he certainly have some issues.

NYR Viper 02-15-2011 05:12 PM

I know people have mixed reviews on Ryan Bouqrue on this board so I was thinking, would anyone be for him leaving the QMJHL next season in order to play a year or 2 in the NCAA? To me, if he turns pro next season I think he will be out-muscled. He needs time for his body to continue to develop and playing less games while working out more for a year would help that.

Obviously, offensively he is ready for the pros. Physically, I dont think he is. Just trying to think outside the box.

HatTrick Swayze 02-15-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 30944613)
I know people have mixed reviews on Ryan Bouqrue on this board so I was thinking, would anyone be for him leaving the QMJHL next season in order to play a year or 2 in the NCAA? To me, if he turns pro next season I think he will be out-muscled. He needs time for his body to continue to develop and playing less games while working out more for a year would help that.

Obviously, offensively he is ready for the pros. Physically, I dont think he is. Just trying to think outside the box.

CHL players lose NCAA eligibility.

NYR Viper 02-15-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyrfan444 (Post 30945016)
CHL players lose NCAA eligibility.

Is that true? I thought some CHL players went on to college after not being drafted. Or is that only Canadian colleges?

CH2 02-15-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 30945287)
Is that true? I thought some CHL players went on to college after not being drafted. Or is that only Canadian colleges?

Only Canadian colleges. The only way for a CHL player (in camp for at least 48 hours or plays at least one game) to play in the NCAA is if they sit out a full year while using eligibility, and that's the minimum. After a year, a former major-junior player can file to be eligible with the NCAA, the NCAA doesn't have to grant eligibility.

A kid from the local college played 2 QMJHL exhibition games and he had to sit out a full year.

NYR Viper 02-15-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CH2 (Post 30946662)
Only Canadian colleges. The only way for a CHL player (in camp for at least 48 hours or plays at least one game) to play in the NCAA is if they sit out a full year while using eligibility, and that's the minimum. After a year, a former major-junior player can file to be eligible with the NCAA, the NCAA doesn't have to grant eligibility.

A kid from the local college played 2 QMJHL exhibition games and he had to sit out a full year.

Ahh, alright. Thanks for clarifying. I just fear that if Bourque goes pro, he may spend a year in the ECHL because of his lack of strength.

n8 02-15-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CH2 (Post 30935793)

this version just has Kreider highlights


CH2 02-15-2011 06:40 PM



Kreider interview starts at :41.

E Nixson 02-15-2011 08:05 PM

Any of our prospects playing tonight?

wolfgaze 02-15-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New England Hockey (Post 30949908)
Any of our prospects playing tonight?

None in the CHL (WHL/OHL) as far as I can tell.

JimmyStart* 02-16-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola (Post 30944268)
I don't agree.

I would like to make a statement:
-Get Kreider into certain -- not all that unusual -- situations, and he can take advantage of them like few others.

Does anyone agree?

Then, why doesn't he? Its simple, he can not find them for himself. He goes up and down the ice like a train on tracks, but doesn't get involved in situation where he can use his speed -- besides the few and far between chances when the puck lands on his stick...

Call it IQ, call it creativity, call it what you want. But there is plenty and further plenty of players at any level, in any league, the SEL, the KHL, the WHL, the QMJHL, OHL, the AHL, college and the NHL, or scratch that, there are plenty and further plenty of players on any team, in all the mentioned leagues -- who can create and find open ice for themselves. We shouldn't exagerate, but Kreider just aint good at that.

Kreider in college is more dominant in terms of speed/strength then AO is in the NHL. Kreider is scoring is, what 0,6 pts/game?, in college. Kreider have fantastic abilities for sure, and I can't see how he can't make it to the NHL and I think odds are very good that he will become a good NHLer. But he certainly have some issues.

Are there other reasons why he doesn't find these situations? Without actually watching him all this is is speculation. Reasonable speculation but so is "He isn't being put in offensive situations by the staff" or something of that nature. Personally i think he still needs another year before turning pro myself but I also think he'd make the adjustments and handle it fine if he did turn pro sooner.

EvilCorporateLawyer 02-16-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola (Post 30944268)
Call it IQ, call it creativity, call it what you want. But there is plenty and further plenty of players at any level, in any league, the SEL, the KHL, the WHL, the QMJHL, OHL, the AHL, college and the NHL, or scratch that, there are plenty and further plenty of players on any team, in all the mentioned leagues -- who can create and find open ice for themselves. We shouldn't exagerate, but Kreider just aint good at that.

This is ridiculous, because that's one of Kreider's best attributes. He's able to find open ice and make plays there.

TrollololBoyle 02-16-2011 03:39 PM

Close to 1,000 replies. Time for a new thread soon?

wolfgaze 02-16-2011 07:36 PM

Thomas has potted his 43rd of the season just 10 minutes into the first period. :yo:

You can follow the boxscore here:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/s...show/game/8046

RGY 02-16-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 30979358)
Thomas has potted his 43rd of the season just 10 minutes into the first period. :yo:

You can follow the boxscore here:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/s...show/game/8046

The kid just keeps going. Doesnt wanna slow down. I love it. I really hope we hold onto him.

Wraparounds 02-16-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatsyukSOGoal (Post 30974696)
Close to 1,000 replies. Time for a new thread soon?

Let nyr2k2 make it. He's the stats curator.


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