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niel094 02-18-2011 06:48 PM

Sharks done on the blueline?
 
I believe the sharks are not done with their trades. Because of ian white, jason demers is now off the roster and is headed to the ECHL. I expect mitchell and/or mcginn to be traded and for wallin to be waived. Who do you guys think the sharks will target next and for who? I could also say that the sharks could probly pick up chris phillips for mitchell and mcginn

ChompChomp 02-18-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by niel094 (Post 31041858)
I believe the sharks are not done with their trades. Because of ian white, jason demers is now off the roster and is headed to the ECHL. I expect mitchell and/or mcginn to be traded and for wallin to be waived. Who do you guys think the sharks will target next and for who? I could also say that the sharks could probly pick up chris phillips for mitchell and mcginn

Demers will be back tomorrow. As much as I want Wallin waived, I don't think it will happen. Some person claiming inside sources says that Mitchell will be dumped to TB, we'll see. Really no need for Chris Phillips.

Assuming Vlasic is okay,

Boyle-Murray
White-Vlasic
Demers-Huskins

Pretty good if you ask me.

lol3rdround 02-18-2011 06:56 PM

Ottawa not content with taking spare parts for Heatley now decides to take spare parts for Phillip too? Unlikely.

Graveland 02-18-2011 06:58 PM

Phillips cap hit = no thx

SJeasy 02-18-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by niel094 (Post 31041858)
I believe the sharks are not done with their trades. Because of ian white, jason demers is now off the roster and is headed to the ECHL. I expect mitchell and/or mcginn to be traded and for wallin to be waived. Who do you guys think the sharks will target next and for who? I could also say that the sharks could probly pick up chris phillips for mitchell and mcginn

There is only so much shakeup you can do. Move out 1/3 of the blueline and you are kissing any chance of a cup goodbye. It may work well in a fantasy league, but some stability is necessary for a cup in real life. Familiarity counts. There just is not enough time left in the season to do a lot of gelling.

Sharks4Life 02-18-2011 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by niel094 (Post 31041858)
I believe the sharks are not done with their trades. Because of ian white, jason demers is now off the roster and is headed to the ECHL. I expect mitchell and/or mcginn to be traded and for wallin to be waived. Who do you guys think the sharks will target next and for who? I could also say that the sharks could probly pick up chris phillips for mitchell and mcginn

though i would never be caught saying he needs to stay..... a) he isn't as bad as everyone states (leaving the 2.5mil out of that one)...b) HE WON'T BE WAIVED......i mean everybody who says it like they know its gonna happen and not just they wish it would is living in la la land. I really don't see dw waiving somebody that he was willing to resign for that kind of money....end of story.

niel094 02-18-2011 07:05 PM

Im kinda worried about ian white because he only averaged like 15 mins of ice time with carolina

Pinkfloyd 02-18-2011 07:10 PM

The Sharks aren't done but I don't think they will do anything else on the blue line with the possible exception of dumping Huskins or Wallin. I'm not expecting any adds outside the organization for their blue line. Probably in net and maybe up front but unlikely on the blue line now.

JonathanK81 02-18-2011 07:12 PM

With White onboard, they probably don't want another PMD even though to me, White isn't the most ideal PMD...I'd love to STILL get JM Liles, but it'll cost too much from the Sharks POV. With that said, we'd have a lot of PMD, and not enough defensive defenseman if we got Liles.

RainbowDash 02-18-2011 07:20 PM

Yes, we're done with the blueline.

However, we need to dump a little bit of salary. Mitchell does have to go in order to bring Demers back into the lineup. Tonight or tomorrow.

Tomahawk214 02-18-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChompChomp (Post 31041967)
Demers will be back tomorrow. As much as I want Wallin waived, I don't think it will happen. Some person claiming inside sources says that Mitchell will be dumped to TB, we'll see. Really no need for Chris Phillips.

Assuming Vlasic is okay,

Boyle-Murray
White-Vlasic
Demers-Huskins

Pretty good if you ask me.

DW said he wanted to have Braun up long term.

RainbowDash 02-18-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomahawk214 (Post 31043644)
DW said he wanted to have Braun up long term.

Link?

Sharks4Life 02-18-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalRemonster (Post 31043683)
Link?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...nd-more-moves/

just search for braun cause hes mentioned multiple times.

SactoShork 02-18-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalRemonster (Post 31043683)
Link?

from WTC...

Quote:

Meanwhile, Wilson also believes Braun, when he does arrive, could have the same immediate impact that center Logan Couture had a year ago.

“We feel very strongly about Justin and it’s always been part of our plan to get him back up here for awhile,” Wilson said. “When he’s here, we’ll have added two big defensive pieces.”

WineShark 02-18-2011 07:58 PM

Wallin is a needed ingredient because he is one of two defensemen with size. We need him and Murray on the PK against big bodies (Think of Detroit and Chicago in front of the net). We also need him against certain big centres. So he's not going anywhere IMO despite his outsized contract and what people believe about his play.

I also don't think you can have too many NHL defensemen for a long Cup run. If someone goes, Huskins is the more likely candidate at this point but I believe we will find a way to keep them all. I would rather play Huskins over Wallin against smaller teams so expect we will see them both split duty when everyone is healthy.

Defensive defensemen (Wallin, Vlasic, Murray),
PM/OD (Boyle, White, Demers).
Depth (Huskins-Braun)

RainbowDash 02-18-2011 08:08 PM

I dunno about that. DW seems a bit too optimistic about Braun coming up and making a Couture like impact.

We have Boyle, Vlasic, Murray, Demers and now White.

Now we're talking about Braun taking the 6/7 spot from Wallin AND Huskins?

Unless Braun is coming up and going to be a a PP specialist and our PP numbers GREATLY improve. I doubt it though.

TNT8592 02-18-2011 08:12 PM

could we possibly making a run at zach bogosian?

The Nemesis 02-18-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TNT8592 (Post 31044600)
could we possibly making a run at zach bogosian?

doubtful. It'll cost a fortune, even knowing he wants out. he's still like 21/22 and developing.

Mhoogasian94123 02-18-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Nemesis (Post 31044764)
doubtful. It'll cost a fortune, even knowing he wants out. he's still like 21/22 and developing.

We would be able to get him because we aren't a rival to ATL. I don't think it will happen but I'd see it being more likely than if Montreal or Florida would.

ChompChomp 02-18-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalRemonster (Post 31044457)
I dunno about that. DW seems a bit too optimistic about Braun coming up and making a Couture like impact.

We have Boyle, Vlasic, Murray, Demers and now White.

Now we're talking about Braun taking the 6/7 spot from Wallin AND Huskins?

Unless Braun is coming up and going to be a a PP specialist and our PP numbers GREATLY improve. I doubt it though.

No please, no more PP "specialists." I am SICK and TIRED of the Sharks trying to go with 7 dmen, like in the WCF when Demers was relegated to PP time only. Guys like "the big 3" need less ice time, and when you go 11 forwards, Thornton and/or Marleau double-shift and are less effective.

Especially in the playoffs, 7 dmen has been an epic fail for the Sharks, going back (As far as I can remember) to 00-01 WCQF against STL [not the 8 seed Sharks, but the season after] when D Sutter went with 7 dmen to get in a PP specialist (at the time, Jeff Jillson).

Arkansas Shark 02-19-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChompChomp (Post 31048948)
No please, no more PP "specialists." I am SICK and TIRED of the Sharks trying to go with 7 dmen, like in the WCF when Demers was relegated to PP time only. Guys like "the big 3" need less ice time, and when you go 11 forwards, Thornton and/or Marleau double-shift and are less effective.

Especially in the playoffs, 7 dmen has been an epic fail for the Sharks, going back (As far as I can remember) to 00-01 WCQF against STL [not the 8 seed Sharks, but the season after] when D Sutter went with 7 dmen to get in a PP specialist (at the time, Jeff Jillson).

Yes!! :laugh::yo:

GCB2000 02-19-2011 01:52 AM

From the interview with DW it sounds like he is looking for a goalie still. Hopefully he can move torrey in the deal although with Nitty going on LTIR cap geek says sharks have space to add another player in the 800K-900K range

Pinkfloyd 02-19-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GCB2000 (Post 31051929)
From the interview with DW it sounds like he is looking for a goalie still. Hopefully he can move torrey in the deal although with Nitty going on LTIR cap geek says sharks have space to add another player in the 800K-900K range

Huskins to St. Louis for Conklin wouldn't be a bad swap.

Gilligans Island 02-19-2011 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd (Post 31055560)
Huskins to St. Louis for Conklin wouldn't be a bad swap.

No doubt, would be great to have the good luck charm as our backup.

Thought I read somewhere that Halak was slightly injured though.

Pinkfloyd 02-19-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilligans Island (Post 31056551)
No doubt, would be great to have the good luck charm as our backup.

Thought I read somewhere that Halak was slightly injured though.

I'm still down for some Hedberg if Conklin can't be acquired. There shouldn't be a whole lot of trouble getting a veteran backup in for anything less than what Huskins makes. There's Conklin, Hedberg, Budaj, and Garon. All of those would work for me.


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