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Stanello 03-04-2011 01:26 AM

Help fiding short stick/shaft with moderate flex
 
Hi all I just started playing hockey last October and I'm at the point now where I'm playing around with trying different patterns, lies etc.

I'm 5'3, and a stocky 125lbs. I've been using a junior warrior stick for the last couple months and I really like the length and lie. Its a 50 Flex and lie of 4. I tried an intermediate stick just shooting around and I could shoot quite a bit harder with it... but it's too long for my liking. Going by the little flex marks on the stick if I cut it down to the size of my junior stick it would be something like a 95 flex. Thus my predicament.

I've been searching around online for a stick that would be around a 70-80 flex while having a length of ~49in... and a lie 4, but I haven't found anything.

Does anyone know of stiffer flex junior sticks/shafts (actually prefer the thinner junior shafts) or really low flex intermediate shafts that I can cut down to 49in and not have a really stiff flex? Thanks!

mbeam 03-04-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanello (Post 31406694)
Hi all I just started playing hockey last October and I'm at the point now where I'm playing around with trying different patterns, lies etc.

I'm 5'3, and a stocky 125lbs. I've been using a junior warrior stick for the last couple months and I really like the length and lie. Its a 50 Flex and lie of 4. I tried an intermediate stick just shooting around and I could shoot quite a bit harder with it... but it's too long for my liking. Going by the little flex marks on the stick if I cut it down to the size of my junior stick it would be something like a 95 flex. Thus my predicament.

I've been searching around online for a stick that would be around a 70-80 flex while having a length of ~49in... and a lie 4, but I haven't found anything.

Does anyone know of stiffer flex junior sticks/shafts (actually prefer the thinner junior shafts) or really low flex intermediate shafts that I can cut down to 49in and not have a really stiff flex? Thanks!

Was the intermediate you looked at originally 65 flex? I know the RBK 8K I had was labeled 65 flex, but that was only after you cut a few inches off so I'm not sure why it wasn't labeled in the low 60s to begin with at 58". Not sure what that would be when you cut it down.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall people talking about how warrior lies are actually one lie higher than stated. Your lie 4 is actually a lie 5 (Do I have this right?). The lies are never exact on the sticks and I know some companies measuring sticks differ from others. If this is true, maybe it will widen your search a bit. I've seen some intermediates with 60 flex at the LHS but I can't recall which brand.

Stanello 03-04-2011 01:51 AM

It was a Bauer something or other that was originally a 67 flex but it was cut down to about a half inch above the 87 flex mark.

So i guess my dream stick would be 49in, somewhere around 70-80 flex and a lie 4 (warrior lie anyway). I'll look into that warrior lie thing though, thanks.

mbeam 03-04-2011 02:10 AM

Sorry, it was the RBK 6K I had in intermediate. Might want to check that out. It is labeled 65 flex but if you look at the markers, you'll notice you have to cut off 2 notches to get it down to 65 flex (~3inches?). So maybe that would be around an 80 flex at 49" for you. I could be way off on my measurements. I'm having a hard time imagining where 49" would be.

I'm sure someone here will be able to verify that warrior thing if it's true.

Jarick 03-04-2011 10:56 AM

Check out Warrior or Bauer intermediates at 55 flex.

Stanello 03-21-2011 07:40 PM

Random thought... if I cut the shaft down 6in and then put a 6in plug in the end does the flex stay the same or increase?

I'd think the total flex would increase as long as the plug is stiffer than the original shaft. Or maybe I'm wrong completely...

ponder 03-21-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanello (Post 31819527)
Random thought... if I cut the shaft down 6in and then put a 6in plug in the end does the flex stay the same or increase?

I'd think the total flex would increase as long as the plug is stiffer than the original shaft. Or maybe I'm wrong completely...

A slight increase in flex IMO, if as you say the plug is stiffer than the original shaft. Especially with low kick sticks most of the flex is happening lower down on the shaft anyways, like around your bottom hand and lower, and the length of the stick mostly influences the stick flex through leverage regardless of whether the top is made of a composite material or a wood plug. But sticks do still flex a touch up top, and I do think that wood plugs tend to be a bit stiffer than a really whippy composite shaft (because wood sticks tend to be a bit stiffer than really whippy composites, but not as stiff as super stiff composites), so a wood plug in a whippy composite would IMO make the stick slightly harder to flex. Also the tenon in the end of the composite would have to stiffen that small area up significantly. I have a stick that I played around with, cut down too much, then added a 2" plug to get it back to a length I liked, and I feel like it is *very slightly* stiffer than it was before, could be just in my head though.

Re: your original question, as Jarick stated some companies offer intermediate sticks with lower flexes, in the 55-60 range (vs. the more common 65-70 range). That's your best bet for sure.

Re: wanting it in a Warrior lie 4, every company measures lies differently, and there's nor direct conversion between them (especially since the rocker on blades and a lack of a standard point of measurement means measuring lies is somewhat arbitrary), but I'd say that your average lie 4 Warrior curve is more like a lie 4.5-5 in a similar curve with a similar rocker from another brand. If you know a Warrior lie 4 works for you, I'd just look for a 55 flex Warrior intermediate with a lie 4, for example one of these:
http://www.hockeymonkey.com/warrior-...grip-2009.html

People generally really like those 2009 Dolo DDs (the Dragon ones), they still have them in 55 flex lie 4 Savards and Kovalchucks (both left and right), and $110 is a good deal (though you'll have to pay shipping/handling with hockey monkey, an extra $15 or so I think).


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