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leafempire187 03-11-2011 10:16 AM

Toronto-Dallas offseason
 
To Toronto
Riberio

To Dallas
Rights to Bozak
komisarek
Philly 3rd

Why Bozak- "march 15 2010" "Much of the credit for landing Bozak went to former Leafs assistant GM Joe Nieuwendyk. A one-time Leafs forward, Nieuwendyk made over a half dozen trips to Denver." -The Star link

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...s-and-senators

Why Komisarek- his cap hit is higher then his actual salary wich helps out budget teams such as Dallas...cant remember the exact number 3.5, 4.5 cap hit?

Why Phillys Third?...to ease the pain on taking Komis contract

why Riberio to TO?...We need a pass first Center

i see kadri developing into a Riberio...good mentor?


thoughts? value there?

vipernsx 03-11-2011 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafempire187 (Post 31593205)
To Toronto

thoughts? value there?

Dallas is getting boned over and the Toronto CN tower is getting shoved way up their ass!!!!

zoolodge* 03-11-2011 10:23 AM

Dallas gets ripped off badly here. I'd run and take this deal.

leafempire187 03-11-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipernsx (Post 31593272)
Dallas is getting boned over and the Toronto CN tower is getting shoved way up their ass!!!!

...how mature of you....:help:

Frenzy1 03-11-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafempire187 (Post 31593333)
...how mature of you....:help:

Bad trade for Dallas. Admit you made a bad trade proposal - one of many here - and just be done. Arguing over a response doesn't help matters or change the fact it is a terrible deal for Dallas.

wej20 03-11-2011 10:29 AM

Very bad deal for Dallas, as a budget team they can't afford bad contracts like Komisarek's.

leafempire187 03-11-2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenzy1 (Post 31593360)
Bad trade for Dallas. Admit you made a bad trade proposal - one of many here - and just be done. Arguing over a response doesn't help matters or change the fact it is a terrible deal for Dallas.

well considering like a couple weeks ago i seen a Dallas fan wanting to trade Riberio for anyone...(one player he Mentiond was Komi)....if you really want me to find it i will ......and besides if Dallas is getting ripped off...Burkes already proved he can rip off teams...ever since the kessel trade he pulled off trades that would have got Ripped to shreds on this site

vezna* 03-11-2011 10:32 AM

dalls wouldn't do it. especially with that komi contract

dubplatepressure 03-11-2011 10:34 AM

Yah, if Dallas shops Riberio they can get a much better return than that.

Ambassador Of Fun 03-11-2011 10:36 AM

Nope, since money isn't the major issue with re-signing Richards, there is no reason to move Ribeiro.

P.S. the issue is not having stable ownership. We have room in the budget to re-sign Richards, he just wants to know the knew owner is willing to put a winning product on the ice.

Also, Komisarek sucks and what do Bozak's prorated numbers look like this year Leaf fans?

leafempire187 03-11-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomhicksnightmare (Post 31593543)
Nope, since money isn't the major issue with re-signing Richards, there is no reason to move Ribeiro.

P.S. the issue is not having stable ownership. We have room in the budget to re-sign Richards, he just wants to know the knew owner is willing to put a winning product on the ice.

Also, Komisarek sucks and what do Bozak's prorated numbers look like this year Leaf fans?

Bozak hasnt been to great this year if the leafs do keep him we are all hopeing this is a "sophomore slump" personally i think he would shine in a more "low key" team where hes not put on a spotlight and expected to be a #1-2 Center hes got 10 goals and 14 Assists...i beleive he is our best Face off man...and he is a pretty good Penalty Killer

Ambassador Of Fun 03-11-2011 10:50 AM

So the Stars trade a top 30 center for a guy who sucks with only a 500k smaller cap hit, a 3rd-4th line faceoff/pk guy, and the ever important 3rd. The Stars spend more money and get worse. It's not a good proposal.

seanlinden 03-11-2011 10:51 AM

Toronto just isn't going to trade for Mike Ribeiro. It's best to leave these threads at that.

vipernsx 03-11-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafempire187 (Post 31593333)
...how mature of you....:help:

You asked for thoughts, if you don't want my thoughts, don't ask for them.

Coming from someone who isn't a fan of either team though is actually a fan of most of the players involved as I've followed them all from their Montreal farm days and UFA signs so I'll break down a more detailed analysis of your ridiculous trade proposal which prompted my equally fitting ridiculous response.

From TML:

Undrafted 2-way bottom6 player overpaid and unsiged RFA. He'll probably be filing for arbitration and you'll need to contend with that as well as any qualifying offers just to ensure you get to keep him or else he may just walk as a UFA. Not to mention, he's not even that good, he's just a bottom 6 guy, which Dallas has plenty of.

Mike Komisarek, Once a solid stay at home defender. He signed a huge deal as a UFA, one that a PMD and a PPQB usually signs, but Burke felt that a shutdown guy was worth the money. His 4.5m hit is lower than his 5.5 million salary next season and Dallas doesn't have extra cash to play around with. Ownership is looking to save money, NOT spend it. His salary doesn't drop up-side-down until the year after that. To top it off, ever since he picked a fight with Milan Lucic and got man handled, he's never been the same and has looked more like Wade Redden. His value has been plummeting ever since.

A 3rd round pick just add insult. It's like saying "I know I'm not adding enough but I'm too cheap to add my first or second so I'm going to add my third".

Then and this is the kicker, for the mediocre package of mush, do you ask for Scott Gomez? Nah, Chris Drury? Nah... Nope you ask for Mike Ribiero, someone who is on a great contract and has legit #1 Center talent.....get a clue.

Jesus Toews* 03-11-2011 11:04 AM

Lol two cap dumps and a third rounder for a solid second line center? Are you kidding?

BronxBruin 03-11-2011 12:33 PM

About a year too late on this proposal.

Last year, Bozak looked like a legit top 6 forward and Komi was still regarded as a solid, tough, stay-at-home defenseman (albeit an injured one). So I think Dallas may have considered the deal (if it meant they were able to re-sign Richards).

Now Bozak is a borderline 3rd liner (though still young and has a chance to bounce back) and Komisarek is arguably one of the most overpaid defensemen currently in the NHL who doesn't bring a whole lot to the table and can barely get 10 minutes of ice time on one of the weaker defense corps in the league right now.

Ludicrous Speed 03-11-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafempire187 (Post 31593205)
Why Phillys Third?...to ease the pain on taking Komis contract

ROFL

dredeye 03-11-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafempire187 (Post 31593205)
To Toronto
Riberio

To Dallas
Rights to Bozak
komisarek
Philly 3rd

Why Bozak- "march 15 2010" "Much of the credit for landing Bozak went to former Leafs assistant GM Joe Nieuwendyk. A one-time Leafs forward, Nieuwendyk made over a half dozen trips to Denver." -The Star link

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...s-and-senators

Why Komisarek- his cap hit is higher then his actual salary wich helps out budget teams such as Dallas...cant remember the exact number 3.5, 4.5 cap hit?

Why Phillys Third?...to ease the pain on taking Komis contract

why Riberio to TO?...We need a pass first Center

i see kadri developing into a Riberio...good mentor?


thoughts? value there?


So

To Dallas
Bust "free wallet"
overpaid useless dman
3rd in weak draft

To TO
solid centerman

yeah I think Dallas will keep what they have and leave Toronto their garbage

TheArchitect* 03-11-2011 02:19 PM

Dear god I hope Ribiero never goes anywhere near the Leafs.

****ing diver. **** no **** no a million times **** no.

piqued 03-11-2011 02:27 PM

Yeah, we're not sending Toronto actual good players.

TOGuy14 03-11-2011 02:33 PM

Besides the fact that the value isn't there for Dallas to make the trade, why would Toronto make this trade?

At best Ribs is Grabo who makes more money. We don't need any more second line players, we have boatloads of that. We need premier players. All-stars or bust essentially.

Boondock 03-11-2011 02:40 PM

Counter

To Toronto: Ott, Daley, Dal 3rd
To Dallas: Schenn

Now before I get 1500 serious responses - all I'm saying is this is as realistic as the OP

Boondock 03-11-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOGuy14 (Post 31598228)
Besides the fact that the value isn't there for Dallas to make the trade, why would Toronto make this trade?

At best Ribs is Grabo who makes more money. We don't need any more second line players, we have boatloads of that. We need premier players. All-stars or bust essentially.

Ribiero would instantly be the best Center on Toronto. Grabo is a 50-60 pt player Ribs is a 70+ point player, big difference.

Disliking a player is 1 thing, giving a piss poor comparison because of your personal feelings makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about

Jesus Toews* 03-11-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boondock (Post 31598429)
Counter

To Toronto: Ott, Daley, Dal 3rd
To Dallas: Schenn

Now before I get 1500 serious responses - all I'm saying is this is as realistic as the OP

That's a far, far better deal than the OP tbh.

Man Bear Pig 03-11-2011 03:25 PM

Bozak
komisarek
Philly 3rd

Where's the value here? Ribeiro is a really good second line center on a good contract. Dallas also may lose Richards so why would they take the risk of dealing their top 2 centermen? Nobody wants Komisarek, he's a **** player on a terrible contract. Bozak is a third line center, maybe a second line center down the road and Philly's third holds no value in a crappy draft.


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