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Belenos 03-15-2011 09:54 AM

Swiss NLA overtakes Sweden in attendance
 
Swiss NLA overtakes Sweden and is Nr.1 in Europe. :handclap:

1912 03-15-2011 06:10 PM

Not surprising. Seeing as two of swedens top market teams, Leksand and Malmö, yet again fail to advance to Elitserien and is stuck in Allsvenskan. And the general decline in attendance in the SEL. Plus the presence of Södertälje in Elitserien witch probably brings down the average quite a bit.

If Leksand or Malmö advances next season the balance should be restored.

Mathradio 03-16-2011 11:19 AM

Hope that the Swiss NLA has stepped up in terms of playing level.

worstfaceoffmanever 03-19-2011 08:08 PM

Gotta think the massive attendance bump in Zagreb puts them on the KHL's radar.

Purple hippo 03-19-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worstfaceoffmanever (Post 31776970)
Gotta think the massive attendance bump in Zagreb puts them on the KHL's radar.

Its highly unlikely Medveščak could join the KHL, though their attendance is good for Dom Sportova, that huge spike comes mostly from their Ice Fever event when they play out of Arena Zagreb which they sell out the 4 matches. Damir Gojanovic has shown interest in the KHL and said it would cost them 6-7 million euros per year but according to most people, they would need around 10 to be able to do anything. If they are able to somehow pay the rent to use Arena Zagreb the entire year, their roster would need to be almost all imports as Croatian hockey is simply too weak at the moment to take on KHL clubs.

Remember, just about two years ago they were playing in the Slovene Championship, drawing no more then 1000 people and with that roster would be beaten badly by any club in the EBEL. Medveščak is better off growing hockey outside Zagreb, improving their junior system and then maybe try KHL, but for now, the EBEL should be just good enough.

Based on all rumours, the KHL has zero interest in Croatia, they want the top Austrian clubs (highly unlikely), a Slovakian club (set in stone basically) and looking at clubs from Germany and Italy. (Germany most likely, Italy...somebody rich must be backing this club)

Theokritos 03-20-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SvenskaRiga (Post 31781737)
Italy...somebody rich must be backing this club

http://static.wiwo.de/media/1/10500535_large_1.jpg

torero 03-20-2011 02:58 PM

On top of that, many teams are planing new arenas or extensions ... ! Even SCB with 17thousands and some places ... are 95% full on average ... therefore even they could plan a new arena !!

Hockeyfrilla 03-15-2012 05:56 AM

SEL back on top.

Regular-Season average attendance Europe & Asia

League Attendance
1.
Sweden - Elitserien
6,3852
.
Switzerland - National League A
6,305
3.
Germany - Deutsche Eishockey Liga
6,060
4.
Russia - Kontinental Hockey League
5,891
5.
Finland - SM-liiga
5,103
6.
Czech Republic - Extraliga
4,824
7.
Austria - EBEL
3,606
8.
Slovakia - Extraliga
2,687
9.
Great Britain - Elite Ice Hockey League
2,028
10.
Norway - Get Ligaen
1,462
11.
France - Ligue Magnus
1,391
12.
Denmark - AL-Bank Liga
1,301
13.
Belarus - Extraliga
1,111
14.
Asia League (CHN/KOR/JPN)
1,024

15.
Italy - Serie A
987

Regular-Season average attendance 2nd-tier leagues Europe

League Attendance

1.
Sweden - Allsvenskan
2,606


2.
Russia - VHL
2,252

3.
Germany - 2. Bundesliga
2,303

4.
Switzerland - National League B
2,112

5.
Finland - Mestis
1,172

6.
Czech Republic - 1. liga
1,130

http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/n...ash=fb6171f7ea

ozo 03-15-2012 07:27 AM

Those are one helluva precise SEL stats - calculated till one fifth of a human. ;)

Mathradio 03-15-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ozo (Post 46112157)
Those are one helluva precise SEL stats - calculated till one fifth of a human. ;)

I think it's a typo, although Elitserien could technically publish average attendance down to one-tenth of a fan. But 6,385 on average seems just right to me.

billy piton 03-15-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SvenskaRiga (Post 31781737)
Its highly unlikely Medveščak could join the KHL, though their attendance is good for Dom Sportova, that huge spike comes mostly from their Ice Fever event when they play out of Arena Zagreb which they sell out the 4 matches.

in fact, they had 7 matches sell out in arena. 105.000 spectators in 2 weeks. ;)

hockey is getting big in croatia.

cutchemist42 03-15-2012 10:59 PM

Happy to see Zagreb doing well being 1/2 Croatian!

Theokritos 03-16-2012 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutchemist42 (Post 46165091)
Happy to see Zagreb doing well being 1/2 Croatian!

Well, they've got a lot of North Americans with Croatian roots. They're basically playing Joe Sakic's cousins who were not good enough to make it in the NHL. Plus some of their "Croatians" don't even have a Croatian background: Michael Ouzas, Kenny MacAuley, Geoff Waugh. 1/2 Croatian? Debatable.

Hockeyfrilla 03-16-2012 08:07 AM

The longside in Berns Arena is standing sections? Crazy.

http://www.goironpigs.com/wp-content...eArenaFans.jpg

Medo 03-17-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theokritos (Post 46172033)
Well, they've got a lot of North Americans with Croatian roots. They're basically playing Joe Sakic's cousins who were not good enough to make it in the NHL. Plus some of their "Croatians" don't even have a Croatian background: Michael Ouzas, Kenny MacAuley, Geoff Waugh. 1/2 Croatian? Debatable.

They don't have to be 1/2 in order to qualify.. they need to have only one great grandparent. Croatian citizenship laws are very liberal in order to get people (who moved out in communist times) to return. Just in South and North America there's more Croats than in Zagreb. I've met quite a lot of South American Croats on my university so i guess that's working out for them. Some didn't know a single word of Croatian.. but oh well :D

Ouzas, MacAuley and Waugh were scouted/signed on purpose because they had some distant Croat relative so that they would count as home players. EBEL roster has sort of point cap.. you gotta fit your roster into 60 points.

Hockeyfrilla 03-24-2012 12:33 PM

Attendence in SEL will drop big time next year as one of the most pouplar clubs Djurgården will be relegated to Allsvenskan.

1912 03-24-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockeyfrilla (Post 46637971)
Attendence in SEL will drop big time next year as one of the most pouplar clubs Djurgården will be relegated to Allsvenskan.

I think that depends on what teams are promoted. If, for example Leksand advances i don't think the drop will be that severe.

Jonimaus 04-01-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markstroms pads (Post 46658953)
I think that depends on what teams are promoted. If, for example Leksand advances i don't think the drop will be that severe.

Yeah, but they won't, the chance is minimal.

Leksand, Malmö, Djurgården in Allsvenskan... It's time for ES to invite a bunch of teams back, including those 3, and close the league. It's a pity because "kvalserien" is amazing and always very very interesting and entertaining but Elitserien is suffering greatly.

pulverapa 07-24-2012 11:00 AM

Sweden will drop under 6.000 this year. If Frölunda has a bad season that number drop to 5.700.

TheNeutrality 02-28-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockeyfrilla (Post 46637971)
Attendence in SEL will drop big time next year as one of the most pouplar clubs Djurgården will be relegated to Allsvenskan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulverapa (Post 52897725)
Sweden will drop under 6.000 this year. If Frölunda has a bad season that number drop to 5.700.

Good calls.


http://estat.hockeyligan.se/c/LSpect...w.aspx?LId=250
Average: 5719 (at the moment)

http://www.nationalleague.ch/NL/spie...hp?season=2013
Average: ~6600
(SC Bern with a ridiculous 16'330 attendance average, good enough for 25th in the NHL)

Seems like it won't be really close this year. I suspect the lockout as a main factor, eventhough the numbers in Switzerland "only" went up by ~300. And of course the relegation of Djurgården.

How does it look like in the other leagues?

joe89 02-28-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNeutrality (Post 60647809)
How does it look like in the other leagues?

3241(up from 2610) average in SEL2, led by Djurgården 6184, Malmö 5794, Leksand 4995(one home game left, could go over 5k).

http://stats.swehockey.se/Teams/Stat...ttendance/3005

vorky 02-28-2013 03:21 PM

from early february
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6430/...d2_49be7b08_XL
NLA
KHL
DEL
Elitserien
Czech league
SM-Liiga
EBEL
http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/t...me/421184.html

Jussi 03-01-2013 10:08 AM

I can't help thinking the decision to bar lock-out players in Elitserien was not taken lightly by the fans and there was some backlash as a result of this.

joe89 03-01-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jussi (Post 60730163)
I can't help thinking the decision to bar lock-out players in Elitserien was not taken lightly by the fans and there was some backlash as a result of this.

Definitely, even if it would've been a very short term attendance fix for a league that has far bigger problems.

Out of the 11 teams that played in the league last season, 3 has seen an increase of attendance and 8 has seen a decrease. No decrease greater than Frölunda's who has gone from 10482 to 8704. The others are a few hundred. The biggest loss however has been replacing Djurgården's 7723 to newcomer Rögle's 3911.

Jonimaus 03-01-2013 01:44 PM

Invite Leksand, Malmö, Djurgården, possibly Södertälje and Örebro would solve a lot. SEL needs those 3 teams as much as those 3 teams needs SEL.


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