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azrok22 03-24-2011 11:07 AM

Jagr Challenged to Fight During KHL Playoff Game . . . By His Coach?
 
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"He [Summanen, the coach] made Jaromir Jagr the scapegoat of the playoffs. Summanen even went after Jagr with his fists after [a Game 6 victory] in Magnitogorsk. He was jumping around [Jagr], challenged him to a fight. Jagr, of course, didn't want to fight."
Clearly Jagr should've stayed in the NHL.

This happened after Game 6 of the series in which his team was eliminated. The coach was subsequently fired, during the middle of Game 7.

The KHL is an even bigger circus than I thought.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...?urn=nhl-wp974

Bluenote13 03-24-2011 11:10 AM

Lesson to young guys, don't gamble, you'll end up in shady places trying to get it all back.

People still think the KHL is a threat to the NHL?

WhipNash27 03-24-2011 11:11 AM

He chased the money and prestige. He didn't want to not be "the man" anymore. I would have loved him to stay, but that was his choice.

KHL is a joke. I remember when many people thought it'd be a true challenger to the NHL for talent. Oh well, who knows, if he stayed this team maybe would be completely different today. It probably worked out for the best for the Rangers.

wolfgaze 03-24-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DubiSnacks17 (Post 31874525)
He chased the money and prestige. He didn't want to not be "the man" anymore. I would have loved him to stay, but that was his choice.

Agreed... I think part of him didn't want the pressure & expectations of having to carry an NHL team on his back anymore.... KHL offered more money and less pressure/expectations.... If he was serious about re-signing with the Rangers he and his agent would not have dragged their feet leading up to July 1st.

WhipNash27 03-24-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 31874705)
Agreed... I think part of him didn't want the pressure & expectations of having to carry an NHL team on his back anymore.... KHL offered more money and less pressure/expectations.... If he was serious about re-signing with the Rangers he and his agent would not have dragged their feet leading up to July 1st.

I think he wanted to still be the man though. I believe some interviews after he left kind of hinted at that. He knew that the Rangers were moving in a different direction. It was soon going to be Drury & Gomez's team (:laugh:) and with Nylander gone, Straka would soon be gone, all of his other buddies were pretty much gone. I remember times when he would talk about how there soon wouldn't be any Czechs left on the team and such. So after Nylander left, he decided it was time to go.

azrok22 03-24-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 31874705)
Agreed... I think part of him didn't want the pressure & expectations of having to carry an NHL team on his back anymore.... KHL offered more money and less pressure/expectations.... If he was serious about re-signing with the Rangers he and his agent would not have dragged their feet leading up to July 1st.

I actually think it was the exact opposite. He wanted to be the "guy" and have the team centered around him and his cronies (Nylander, Straka, etc.). The Rangers clearly shifted in another direction with Gomez and Drury (a disastrous one, but that's beside the point). It was no longer his team, and he didn't want to simply be a piece of the puzzle.

wolfgaze 03-24-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DubiSnacks17 (Post 31874758)
I think he wanted to still be the man though. I believe some interviews after he left kind of hinted at that. He knew that the Rangers were moving in a different direction. It was soon going to be Drury & Gomez's team (:laugh:) and with Nylander gone, Straka would soon be gone, all of his other buddies were pretty much gone. I remember times when he would talk about how there soon wouldn't be any Czechs left on the team and such. So after Nylander left, he decided it was time to go.

Yeah, but he could be the "man" in the KHL without the burden of having the intense spotlight and expectations of playing for a big market team in the NHL, and still be paid handsomely for doing so.
Sather wanted him back but wasn't about to dish out a pricey 3 year contract and I don't blame him.

Pizza 03-24-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by azrok22 (Post 31874770)
I actually think it was the exact opposite. He wanted to be the "guy" and have the team centered around him and his cronies (Nylander, Straka, etc.). The Rangers clearly shifted in another direction with Gomez and Drury (a disastrous one, but that's beside the point). It was no longer his team, and he didn't want to simply be a piece of the puzzle.

That pretty much jibes with quotes I read from JJ at the time.

Stugots 03-24-2011 11:46 AM

Hahahaha firing coaches in the middle of games. That is priceless.

Also, I've never heard of a coach challenging a player to a fight. The closest I've seen to that in American sports is in the NBA a few seasons ago when the ref challenged Tim Duncan to a fight in the middle of the game.

94now 03-24-2011 11:54 AM

Is Jagr Dodgers fan? Wassup with that hat?
Also, article stipulate that Torts may beat his players up. Really? I wouldn't be shocked, if true, yet Torts should complain to Yahoo for that.

nyrangers14 03-24-2011 11:56 AM

Bring Jagr Back Now!!!

Loffen 03-24-2011 12:02 PM

The KHL is a joke.

ilezia 03-24-2011 12:07 PM

This guy Summanen is quite the character. He lead the Finnish NT to the final of World Cup 2004 but even then got feedback from the players that he's too harsh and eventually got fired. He's got some skills tho as I hear even Jagr has said that Summanen is the best coach he has ever had. Naturally this is the down side in him :D

Hockey Team 03-24-2011 12:10 PM

Jagr should've beat the living **** out of the guy.

The guy has something seriously wrong mentally with him. (And Jagr would absolutely destroy the guy in a fight, it wouldn't be anything close to a fair fight)

And lol at the Torts comment

ilezia 03-24-2011 12:19 PM

BTW this happened 3 days ago already and was reported in the Finnish papers, however, the next day there was stories that in fact Summanen did not get fired but the owner says Summanen will coach till his contract ends.

This is quite odd as even the Finnish goalie of Omsk told the papers on Monday that the whole team requested for the firing.

Hockey Team 03-24-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ilezia (Post 31875870)
BTW this happened 3 days ago already and was reported in the Finnish papers, however, the next day there was stories that in fact Summanen did not get fired but the owner says Summanen will coach till his contract ends.

This is quite odd as even the Finnish goalie of Omsk told the papers on Monday that the whole team requested for the firing.

So they fired him in the middle of a game, then pretended they didn't fire him to not look like total idiots.

The KHL is a piece of crap, they're worse then that league that brashear played in during the lockout (the one that's basically all enforcers and fighting). Those guys at least advertised themself for what they are. The KHL pretends like they're a world class league when there's constant BS coming out of there.

The Vityaz incidents were the worst.

94now 03-24-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ilezia (Post 31875870)
This is quite odd as even the Finnish goalie of Omsk told the papers on Monday that the whole team requested for the firing.

Odd? You'd think an ice-hole looks much smaller if it speaks your language, wouldn't you? :D ;)

E Nixson 03-24-2011 01:05 PM

Anyone else find this hilarious?

The KHL :shakehead

Fire Sather 03-24-2011 01:32 PM

Dammit, why does Jagr settle for this bush league crap? Wish he stayed in the NHL, with us.. or anyone.

n8 03-24-2011 01:43 PM

I'd still sign Jagr next season, 1 year $2M+ish.

Jim Morrison 03-24-2011 01:45 PM

Sign Roman Cervenka in the off-season and Jagr would come running.

http://eliteprospects.com/player.php...=15130&lang=en

KreiMeARiver* 03-24-2011 01:50 PM

Yeah Jags... Go Dodgers!!!!!

What a joke this is. Sather is a total idiot for not re-signing him. He brought this franchise back from the dead.

KreiMeARiver* 03-24-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by n8 (Post 31877434)
I'd still sign Jagr next season, 1 year $2M+ish.

in a heartbeat... the guy is a legend and single-handedly ended our playoff drought.

pwoz 03-24-2011 02:11 PM

I'd love for Jagr to come back and just get point #1600.

TheHMan 03-24-2011 02:17 PM

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18. Brendan Bell, who played 101 games with Toronto, Phoenix and Ottawa, is looking to catch on with an NHL team. Bell is finishing up with Biel in the Swiss league, hoping someone will give him a late-season look.

19. Before Switzerland, Bell signed with Avangard Omsk of the KHL, registering two assists in one game. But, as can happen in Russia (and this franchise in particular), he was asked to sign something in Russian. He admits he should have refused, but the next thing he knew, the club was claiming he'd signed his own release form and they didn't owe him any money. If that league wants to be taken seriously, this stuff must stop.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/ellio...-thoughts.html


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