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overlords 04-03-2011 09:53 AM

2011 Draft Talk V2.0
 
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According to http://www.prosportstransactions.com...Years/2011.htm, we have:

1st round pick (MTL)
3rd round pick (MTL)
4th round pick (either ANA or MTL, unconfirmed)
5th round pick (MTL)
6th round pick (MTL)
7th round pick (MTL)

pine* 04-03-2011 10:07 AM

Two words: Zibanejad.

JHabs 04-03-2011 10:31 AM

Joachim Nermark.

Z I think will be the better player overall, but Nermark just by reading his comments I think could pan out to a top line forward, and a fan favorite. Reminds me of lars eller in his interview. http://www.coppernblue.com/2010/11/8...responsibility

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 04-03-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yarfangor (Post 32085021)
Joachim Nermark.

Z I think will be the better player overall, but Nermark just by reading his comments I think could pan out to a top line forward, and a fan favorite. Reminds me of lars eller in his interview. http://www.coppernblue.com/2010/11/8...responsibility

2nd round?

JHabs 04-03-2011 10:50 AM

1st round if Zibanejad, Grimaldi, and Jensen are gone

Fozz 04-03-2011 11:26 AM

I can't help but fantasize about having both Tinordi and Oleksiak man the blue line for the next 10+ years.

JeromeHP 04-03-2011 11:29 AM

He look more like a 2nd round prospect than a 1st right now. But if he's dominant at the upcoming u-18 like he was in at the u-18 in august he may rise. Here's a short write up by Kirk Luedeke on Nermark

http://bruins2011draftwatch.blogspot...1-roundup.html

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Joachim Nermark, C Linköping (SWE- Jr.)- After a dominant Ivan Hlinka tourney in August where everything Nermark seemed to touch turned to gold, he had a tough season. He played 12 games on Linköping's SEL entry (1 assist) but spent most of the year on the J20 team, tallying 8 goals and 26 points in 37 games. He's a skilled and creative player by all accounts, but didn't show much of the creativity and magic he did on the Under-18 Team. Nermark is no slouch and could be a nice developmental find in the 2nd round for a team willing to gamble a little (hello, Detroit?) on a player with his potential, but scouts we've talked to are pretty perplexed as to what happened to him after showing so much promise.

katatoniak 04-03-2011 11:50 AM

I'll repeat my question .... What's so special about Zibanejad ?

ikelechien 04-03-2011 12:08 PM

For a sneak preview of the NHL final listings go to http://www.nhl.com/ice/post.htm?id=582 Ok, so it is a bit of a teaser - finals on 12-Apr-11

JeromeHP 04-03-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by katatoniak (Post 32086178)
I'll repeat my question .... What's so special about Zibanejad ?

http://bruins2011draftwatch.blogspot...1-roundup.html

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He's a smart. energetic, passionate player who takes those intangibles and brews a nice concoction with his impressive physical and skills package. Versatility is also a bonus for Zibanejad who can play center or either wing as right-shooting player. He's a long strider who gets up and down the surface quickly and at 6-2, 192 pounds has plenty of room to fill out and get stronger. Zibanejad has soft hands and the vision/instincts to make plays all over the ice. He's also got a hard, heavy shot that he uses to great effect, sometimes seeing time at the point on the power play. We've seen him move fluidly and effortlessly from the point to the middle of the slot and uncork some nice drives, so he's a dangerous offensive player that defenses must account for. He's a banger and relishes physical contact. Zibanejad just oozes star quality, and we're sure that when you get a good look at him, you'll quickly see why so many are high on him right now. We're hearing that scouts have him near the top of watch lists for next month's Under-18 Championship in Germany- if he has a great tourney, don't be surprised to see him crack the top-10 at the NHL draft in June. Yes, he's riding that kind of a wave right now.


Forsead 04-03-2011 12:18 PM

Thanks WTK for the Kale Kessy find.

I would like the Habs to draft one of these forward
J.C. Lipon
Turner Elson
Kale Kessy
Klarc Wilson
Jordan Wyton
Austin Connor
Adam Lowry
Brady Brassart
Collin Valcourt
Colin Jacobs
Mitch Elliot

It could add a little sandpaper in our prospect pools some will develop more into a bottom 6 role, but that's still the guy of player the team always need.

Also Alex Roach could become a pretty good find in term of physical shutdown dman.

WeThreeKings 04-03-2011 02:10 PM

Update the OP with our picks in the draft?

NLHabsFan 04-03-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WeThreeKings (Post 32089364)
Update the OP with our picks in the draft?

Good idea. IIRC the Habs have a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th.
Does anyone know which 4th they have though, is it theirs or the Ducks? I don't know which one got traded to ATL. :help:
I believe they still have ANA.

katatoniak 04-03-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLHabsFan (Post 32090868)
Good idea. IIRC the Habs have a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th.
Does anyone know which 4th they have though, is it theirs or the Ducks? I don't know which one got traded to ATL. :help:
I believe they still have ANA.

they didnt trade ANA 4th for Mara ?

SeriousFan09 04-03-2011 03:38 PM

They hold their original 4th in the 2010 draft and dealt the 5th they got from Lapierre for the 2011 draft for Mara.

pine* 04-03-2011 03:41 PM

According to http://www.prosportstransactions.com...Years/2011.htm, we have:

1st round pick (MTL)
3rd round pick (MTL)
4th round pick (either ANA or MTL, unconfirmed)
5th round pick (MTL)
6th round pick (MTL)
7th round pick (MTL)

JHabs 04-03-2011 04:03 PM

We seriously need a 2nd round pick.

But I'm not willing to trade away our first if we are in the range of 10-25 If we are above 25 I'd trade our 1st for a 2nd and a 3rd or something.

NLHabsFan 04-03-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katatoniak (Post 32091064)
they didnt trade ANA 4th for Mara ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriousFan09 (Post 32091355)
They hold their original 4th in the 2010 draft and dealt the 5th they got from Lapierre for the 2011 draft for Mara.

I believe they traded ANA 5th, what they got for Lapierre, back for Mara. They have ANA 4th for trading Chipchura. And they dealt a 4th, I believe it was their own and still have ANA, with Maxwell to ATL for Sopel.

WeThreeKings 04-03-2011 07:10 PM

Maxim Shalunov would be worth it because of his high skill level, but his character issues make him a no draft, or a candidate for the grabo,dago,sergei,lats,ribs treatment.

Mathletic 04-03-2011 07:21 PM

in case anyone watched the Giants for Gallagher, what was your impression of Wesley Vannieuwenhuizen? Out side of having a great name, is he worth anything good?

Richiebottles 04-03-2011 07:30 PM

Who is the player who could make the team next year (Jeff Skinner) type that we could be able to draft ?

JHabs 04-03-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richiebottles (Post 32096813)
Who is the player who could make the team next year (Jeff Skinner) type that we could be able to draft ?

tbh I think its gonna b Rocco Grimaldi

Richiebottles 04-03-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yarfangor (Post 32097678)
tbh I think its gonna b Rocco Grimaldi

PPG looks pretty good.

That is the one thing about college hockey. Yes it is good for the player to get an education but doesn't it set you back in terms on hockey. Isnt playing in the OHL or WHL better for a players development ?

le_sean 04-03-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richiebottles (Post 32097739)
PPG looks pretty good.

That is the one thing about college hockey. Yes it is good for the player to get an education but doesn't it set you back in terms on hockey. Isnt playing in the OHL or WHL better for a players development ?

Depends. CHL allows players to get used to a long schedule and the competition is stronger. NCAA only has like 1-2 games a week but I believe focus a lot on physical training.

S Bah 04-03-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richiebottles (Post 32097739)
PPG looks pretty good.

That is the one thing about college hockey. Yes it is good for the player to get an education but doesn't it set you back in terms on hockey. Isnt playing in the OHL or WHL better for a players development ?

That could be true or false depending upon the player and his desires and the team drafting and theirs.A player that is a quality pick 1st or 2nd round may have a chance to be playing for an NHL team in his first two years.This player should probably play in CHL as the total games and quality of play will closely match the rigors of the NHL.If a player is aware that he will need three or four years experience and gain weight so he's ready for the Pro game.These players are better served playing in college after the USHL or BCHL then learn how to play in team systems playing against men with less emphasis on quantity and more on becoming a complete player.In the last decade there have been huge increases in the amount of players going to college and then to the NHL.Both ways have merit depending upon the player's needs.


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