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High Glove 04-19-2011 12:52 PM

2011-12 Cam Fowler Discussion (Corsi Ratings Fail)
 
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=362856

mightyquack 04-19-2011 01:05 PM

Don't think there was much doubting those 3 would be picked, though I have to question why Couture is still eligible after playing 40 NHL games, I don't see why Playoff games don't count, if anything, they are worth 2 or 3 regular season games!

GreatBear 04-19-2011 01:10 PM

Not a real surprise. It is a lot easier to select goal scorers than defensemen. That's kind of a strange attitude, since the common saying is that championships are won with defense, but that's just the way the system works.

bumperkisser 04-19-2011 01:46 PM

ya i really cant argue with the selections lol.. the only real 1 that is ridiculous is couture.. hes played so many games already

Degenerate191 04-19-2011 02:02 PM

If Fowler had continued playing the way we did in the first half, he would have at least been nominated. Too bad he had a bit of a second half slump. Oh well, I'll be pleased with a Norris in a few years.

Kalvinators 04-19-2011 02:28 PM

+/- kind of killed him.

dfk711* 04-19-2011 02:31 PM

This just means no sophmore slump for Fowler

Gibson Les Palms 04-19-2011 02:33 PM

Meh, it's hard for d-men anyway.

Won't be long before we see, #Cam4Norris. :yo:

Mooseduck 04-19-2011 02:36 PM

The bandwagon is shocked :sarcasm:
Everyone else knew this would happen - meh.

Good start for Fowler - tough year to be considered.

Silver 04-19-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalvinators (Post 32498990)
+/- kind of killed him.

18 year old d-men get eaten alive in the NHL. The fact that Fowler hung around all year and contributed is a huge testament to his ability.

Lots of good rookies this year.

Duck Off 04-19-2011 02:48 PM

His second half slump, +- rating, and his competition kept him from being nominated. The three that were nominated deserve to be IMO.

Hussar 04-19-2011 03:34 PM

All Star Skinner has this wrapped up.

Paul4587 04-19-2011 05:08 PM

Subban and Carlson were both ahead of him as far as defensemen go anyways, no surprise there.

I agree regarding Couture. He's as much of a rookie as Sbisa is, who is not eligible for the award.

McDonald19 04-19-2011 08:11 PM

I like the 3 picks.

No argument from me regarding Fowler's non-selection.

Seanconn* 04-20-2011 04:17 AM

If they included Fowler, why not Stattenkirk?

those 3 guys were bound to be the selection.

Couture is a rookie by the book, so there's no way to keep him out of that final 3, but his 40 games prior is a bunch of bull if you ask me, the award goes to Skinner. MAYBE Grabner for being so fun to watch.

S.S. Giggy 04-20-2011 02:39 PM

Yea, +/- killed him. That and he didn't really have a good 2nd half of the season, I guess the 82 game schedule wore him down but I think he should be fine next year.

KillerKampfer* 04-20-2011 11:53 PM

Couture played way too many games. Should be ruled out IMO. Skinner and Subban are very worthy and deserving. I have those two and Grabner ahead of Cam and Cam right next to Carlsson and Shattenkirk with Marchand in there too.

2faded 04-20-2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.S. Giggy (Post 32524397)
Yea, +/- killed him. That and he didn't really have a good 2nd half of the season, I guess the 82 game schedule wore him down but I think he should be fine next year.

Yea he had a bad second of the season, but you know whats more important? The fact that after he had a tremendous first half and seemed to be slowing down/fatigued the second half, the playoffs roll around and he just steps it up another level and is arguably our best D so far. Good signs people!

duxfever 04-21-2011 12:45 AM

Fowler was just saving it for the playoffs. None of this regular season shenanigans.

Dude has been nails so far in this series.

Jerky Leclerc 04-21-2011 01:52 AM

There are plenty of great NHL players who never won the Calder. I am fine with the three finalists. They were all awesome in their own right.

wesott11 04-21-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerky Leclerc (Post 32543925)
There are plenty of great NHL players who never won the Calder. I am fine with the three finalists. They were all awesome in their own right.

This. We've got an awesome guy in cam and I'm fine with that. Forget the Calder. The Norris in the future is a different story!!!

TheFlyingV 04-21-2011 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerky Leclerc (Post 32543925)
There are plenty of great NHL players who never won the Calder. I am fine with the three finalists. They were all awesome in their own right.

Steve Mason.:sarcasm:

Mooseduck 05-14-2011 10:20 PM

Not surprised by the outcome, but glad we landed Fowler.
Great season, good kid.

S.S. Giggy 05-15-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalvinators (Post 32498990)
+/- kind of killed him.

It was a combination of that, the 82 game season taking it's toll, and not having a capable partner on D.

Andrew Knoll 05-15-2011 09:55 PM

I think I had him 7th or 8th in the final Calder poll. The three nominees, Crawford, Subban, Carlson and potentially Hall although his injury obviously denied him the opportunity to finish the year.

Still a nice season from Fowler and even after he started wearing down a little he had some impressive spurts. Overall a pleasant surprise, I thought.


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