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TonySCV 04-27-2011 04:08 PM

Lombardi and Murray Interviews 4/27
 
LOTS of stuff is going to be posted today, so keep checking back for updates:

Lombardi and Murray discuss Penner:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/04/27...dustin-penner/

(Cliff's notes - Penner's conditioning was a real problem. He's got to get in shape this off-season first and foremost; Doughty needs to improve his conditioning as well; called Kopitar's conditioning "average")

Lombardi talks good and bad about the season:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/04/27...sappointments/

Cliff's notes: Maturity (or lack thereof) played a significant role this season in a lot of different areas that Lombardi talks about in detail; How valuable playoff experience was and will be in helping the players mature into better players.

Lombardi and Murray on Drew Doughty:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/04/27...-drew-doughty/

Cliff's notes: Call Gary Roberts this off-season and get proper conditioning. Talked about what Stamkos went through from a conditioning perspective. Wants to see Drew do that as well.

Tadite 04-27-2011 05:47 PM

Great stuff. !

William H Bonney 04-27-2011 07:22 PM

Oh, Lombardi, when you're making a good point don't fudge it by using ridiculous hyperbole to try and state your case:

Quote:

Stamkos, great scorer, first pick in the draft, he’s not scoring for two years so he says, `That’s it, I’m going to go get in shape.’ And he goes and spends the summer with Roberts and now you’ve got a 60-goal scorer.”
Stamkos had a rough opening first half in his rookie year. He finished that year by scoring 19 points in his last 20 games and then had a great World Championships tournament. He then went on to have 51 goals and 44 assists in his 2nd year.

If 95 points is struggling, can some more Kings do that? :D:D

KopitarFAN 04-27-2011 07:49 PM

It's not a bad spot to be in when conditioning seems to be the biggest problem.

TonySCV 04-27-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KopitarFAN (Post 32727535)
It's not a bad spot to be in when conditioning seems to be the biggest problem.

:)

For so many years it was all about what can be done to make the Kings a playoff team again. Now it's all about what can be done so that the Kings can win a round or two (or 4!). It's a nice change.

AKAY47 04-27-2011 08:38 PM

Looks like TM wants Handzus & Poni back but it's not like he'll flat out say "There's no room for these guys next year"

TonySCV 04-27-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AKAY47 (Post 32730225)
Looks like TM wants Handzus & Poni back but it's not like he'll flat out say "There's no room for these guys next year"

IIRC, he always says he wants players back. Obviously he doesn't mind saying that because he doesn't make that decision.

AKAY47 04-27-2011 08:46 PM

And obviously Rich wouldn't want to put Lombardi in that situation lol

Brad Doty 04-27-2011 09:05 PM

lol at his potshot at Kovy...sheesh.

Telos 04-27-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TonySCV (Post 32730852)
IIRC, he always says he wants players back. Obviously he doesn't mind saying that because he doesn't make that decision.

Exactly, he said the same about Frolov last year.

TonySCV 04-27-2011 10:19 PM

Oh boy... Lombardi and Murray on the power play:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/04/27...ss-power-play/

To hell with what Murray said about it (it's nothing new) - keep en eye on Lombardi's comments.

“I’ve got to look at the personnel. The coach has to look at how we get out best player out there in a productive role, and then the player has got to figure it out. So I think there’s an element of all three there. And it usually shows up in zone entry. It’s not just when you’re getting in the box. It’s when you’re gaining the zone with possession, versus having to dump it in and spend 20 seconds getting it back. That’s kind of telling you some things there. But we were still good enough getting in there, as we saw two years ago, and our top guy was in situations where he could be productive. So clearly, when you ask the coaches would could be better and what has to be better, the power play is going to be at the top of their list.”

King'sPawn 04-27-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonySCV (Post 32736642)
Oh boy... Lombardi and Murray on the power play:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/04/27...ss-power-play/

To hell with what Murray said about it (it's nothing new) - keep en eye on Lombardi's comments.

ďIíve got to look at the personnel. The coach has to look at how we get out best player out there in a productive role, and then the player has got to figure it out. So I think thereís an element of all three there. And it usually shows up in zone entry. Itís not just when youíre getting in the box. Itís when youíre gaining the zone with possession, versus having to dump it in and spend 20 seconds getting it back. Thatís kind of telling you some things there. But we were still good enough getting in there, as we saw two years ago, and our top guy was in situations where he could be productive. So clearly, when you ask the coaches would could be better and what has to be better, the power play is going to be at the top of their list.Ē

I love how Lombardi talks about how the overall powerplay has to be better, from scope, to personnel, to execution... and Murray just says the powerplay is fine, but has to be executed better.

Haik 04-27-2011 10:50 PM

So I guess the only thing holding this team back is conditioning? :shakehead

Mattias 04-27-2011 10:54 PM

Kopitar logged a crazy amount of minutes yet his conditioning is 'average' ?

Wow.

DAkings20 04-27-2011 11:06 PM

Conditioning=goals

amirite????

Reaper45 04-27-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DAkings20 (Post 32738199)
Conditioning=goals

amirite????

When your best players can stay out longer and end up playing against lesser competition, yes I'd say so.

KINGS17 04-27-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattias (Post 32737887)
Kopitar logged a crazy amount of minutes yet his conditioning is 'average' ?

Wow.

Don't get me wrong Kopitar busts his butt on the backcheck and in his own end, but I think there are times when he does take a bit of a break in the opposing team's zone. It's one of the reasons he doesn't get to the middle often enough with enough authority.

Live in the Now 04-28-2011 12:09 AM

We don't really have a team of workout warriors, so to put in place a culture where that becomes prevalent among our star players, do we need to add some of those kinds of guys to the roster? Poor conditioning is a symptom of having such a young team. Instilling great conditioning into the team is a matter of having the right complementary veteran players.

If we got rid of Stoll, and Greene (which I have considered), who in the world would we have that actually does these things during the offseason? I can't think of ANY other veteran players on this team noted league-wide for their conditioning and work ethic. The conditioning problem seems to plague our roster in total, not just amongst one or two players.

Telos 04-28-2011 12:11 AM

So according to Murray the powerplay was all Doughty and Kopitar's fault, and even though they sucked, it was still good enough for him and needs no more thought put into it than what already has been... Yikes.

Nex06 04-28-2011 12:12 AM

Lombardi: "But thatís the irony of it. We all looked at it and thought missing his offense (would be big), but we end up missing his defense."

You could have asked me, Deano, I would have told you so on 27th March.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nex06 (Post 31936850)
BTW, is there anyone else who thinks that Kopitar will be harder to replace in defense than in offense? Sure, Kopitar is a big magnet for opposition D, they don't have to double anyone now, but still - as it has been mentioned - the scoring is well distributed and it might become even more distributed (because both Williams and especially Kopitar played big minutes). In defense, on the other hand, when facing the guys that Kopitar has been facing this season, there will be a big hole

Nobody seemed to agree with me at that time, though.

MollerManor 04-28-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King'sPawn (Post 32737650)
I love how Lombardi talks about how the overall powerplay has to be better, from scope, to personnel, to execution... and Murray just says the powerplay is fine, but has to be executed better.

Well... Murray is the personnel, so I dont think he is going to be complaining about that.

KINGS17 04-28-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nex06 (Post 32739524)
Lombardi: "But thatís the irony of it. We all looked at it and thought missing his offense (would be big), but we end up missing his defense."

You could have asked me, Deano, I would have told you so on 27th March.



Nobody seemed to agree with me at that time, though.

Hey I'll admit it you were right. Kopitar in place of Richardson watching Thornton during some key moments in that series probably makes a huge difference.

Nex06 04-28-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telos (Post 32739500)
So according to Murray the powerplay was all Doughty and Kopitar's fault, and even though they sucked, it was still good enough for him and needs no more thought put into it than what already has been... Yikes.

I actually understood Lombardi's thoughts to be directed primarily at coaches. I read following statements to have most "meat":

- The coach has to look at how we get out best player out there in a productive role

- So clearly, when you ask the coaches would could be better and what has to be better, the power play is going to be at the top of their list.Ē

Murray on the other hand says that instructions are fine and execution is not. If that is true then players ARE to be blamed. I think this should be pretty easy to check. Just write down the instructions and next morning go through each PP action and see if it's done like the instructions suggest. If it is and there is no production, then change the instructions. Personally I just can't imagine that players would not follow the instructions, the coaches would destroy them after the game, especially since these criticisms from fans AND Lombardi have been loud whole season.

northernKing 04-28-2011 01:52 AM

I'd love to see what DL has to say about Cammalleri having two back to back solid playoffs. It would probably be something along the lines of " sure he scored a point per game but how many pushups can he do?" or " I'd rather have a .50 PPG scorer in the finals than a point per game scorer in the first two rounds" :naughty:

northernKing 04-28-2011 01:56 AM

LA's pp needs to be built around Kopitar, Doughty and Johnson carrying the puck into the offensive zone. Also with Handzus likely gone Penner and Brown should see more time in front of the net.


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