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Dagoon44 05-17-2011 07:04 PM

4th liners the Rangers should now target
 
Zenon Konopka only made 600,000.00 last season great on face offs and can play a regular shift and not a liability. Prust and Zenon would be a great start to a 4th line.

Eric Boulton a Ranger killer and a guy who can throw down with anyone and pops in a few goals here and there only made 650,000.00

Rick Rypien great team guy coming back from some issues. He is a solid 4th line guy and doesn't make much money 550,000.00

Steve MacIntyre a true monster but not a player at all.

John Erskine a solid number 6 dman and would fill the enforcer role also. makes a little more money 1.25 million

Vitto79 05-17-2011 07:07 PM

i'm pretty cool with no 4th liners being brought in actually. Sather is a dummy so yea he may get a tough guy but if so it better be for the minimum or a two way deal.

Konopka would be nice but he will likely stay in Long Island

Erskine makes sense as a reliable Dman for Del Zotto but who knows if they have the space

Nekz 05-17-2011 07:07 PM

No more pure goons (as much as I love hockey fights). Go with guys like Prust who can contribute to the team and not be a liability on the ice.

Orr Nightmare 05-17-2011 07:07 PM

I would take anyone of those guys...with Big Mac attack being last on the list.

Ironic how Big Mac and Bolton were both Rangers property at one point.

You would have to trade for Erskine but I would love him on my team any day.

I would take Erskine and Bolton.

McMonster 05-17-2011 07:11 PM

John Erskine might be a good addition

Ih8theislanders 05-17-2011 07:12 PM

I'd love Erskine. Sign me up. 2 yrs 2 mil per.

wolfgaze 05-17-2011 07:12 PM

Erskine is the only player on that list I wouldn't object to... The rest are either unnecessary or redundant.

SML 05-17-2011 07:15 PM

4th line is where we should be breaking new talent in at EL contracts. If we cant even draft 4th liners,then we need new scouts. This is where guys like McNaught are supposed to be playing. I don't know if he's ready but I'd rather platoon audition a bunch of young guys than bring in an older guy like Boulton. Besides, I think it's exciting to watch a young guy make his bones as opposed to an older one hang on to what he has. They're all decent suggestions, and we do need someone. If Konopka would even take our call, then I don't want him anyway. I'm done with guys who will cross hated rival lines for money.

Alvvays 05-17-2011 07:17 PM

Erskine was re-signed by Washington.

I'd consider Boulton. Guy who can drop 'em, and is not a total liability on the ice like Orr.

Punxrocknyc19* 05-17-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Mastrosimone (Post 33094193)
Erskine was re-signed by Washington.

I'd consider Boulton. Guy who can drop 'em, and is not a total liability on the ice like Orr.

much rather get someone who is younger and is more than just a tough guy


id love steve downie, someone can be productive and fight when needed.

Alvvays 05-17-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 33094412)
much rather get someone who is younger and is more than just a tough guy


id love steve downie, someone can be productive and fight when needed.

Downie is more of a borderline 2nd liner, and I doubt Tampa would move him. 2 goals, 10 assists in the playoffs.

I just want a cheap guy who can take a regular shift, yet still beat in the other team's faces. Boulton is that guy.

Florida Ranger 05-17-2011 07:35 PM

Pass on Konopka.

RGY 05-17-2011 07:37 PM

I'm sorry but I'm sick of the 4th line goons that people think we "must" have to add more toughness. This team was pretty gutsy without that pretty much all season since Boogard was out for the majority of it. You want to bring in a guy like Prust, fine, but I dont see many out there that are like him. Let the kids play. Dont give a roster spot away to some goon. I dont care if it means letting Weise get the 4th line spot. I want guys who can actually play the game of hockey. We dont need guys who cant skate, are slow, not good defensively, and thus take stupid penalties.

Punxrocknyc19* 05-17-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Mastrosimone (Post 33094626)
Downie is more of a borderline 2nd liner, and I doubt Tampa would move him. 2 goals, 10 assists in the playoffs.

I just want a cheap guy who can take a regular shift, yet still beat in the other team's faces. Boulton is that guy.

maybe a guy like Boll or Dorsett from the jackets both r 4th liners that are cheap.

Fitzy 05-17-2011 07:57 PM

Mike Rupp, if you would please.

BlueshirtBlitz 05-17-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagr68NYR94Leetch (Post 33094798)
I'm sorry but I'm sick of the 4th line goons that people think we "must" have to add more toughness. This team was pretty gutsy without that pretty much all season since Boogard was out for the majority of it. You want to bring in a guy like Prust, fine, but I dont see many out there that are like him. Let the kids play. Dont give a roster spot away to some goon. I dont care if it means letting Weise get the 4th line spot. I want guys who can actually play the game of hockey. We dont need guys who cant skate, are slow, not good defensively, and thus take stupid penalties.

Agreed.

X/Wolski/Hagelin-Stepan-MZA/X
Hagelin/Avery/Feds-Boyle-Prust

That way you have a bottom 6 that's useful. Cally, Dubi, Prust and Boyle bring toughness. Boyle isn't a teddy bear even if he doesn't dominate people often. Considering Staal can dish out filthy hits and Sauer is a nasty mother****er that's plenty of team toughness. Avery and Feds bring grit too.

Punxrocknyc19* 05-17-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitzy Duke of NY (Post 33095725)
Mike Rupp, if you would please.

well maybe Boyle's skating coach can turn him into a 20 goal scorer too :laugh:

Hire Sather 05-17-2011 08:05 PM

Last thing I'm worried about.

Lets get some goal scorers.

Miller Time NYR 05-17-2011 08:07 PM

Remind me why we need more 4th liners? Boyle and prust are 4th liners, hagelin could fit in nicely next to them as could grachev, and the whale is stocked with 4th line role players. We don't need to throw money at another 4th liner ala' brashear n boogaard

How about building a contender from the top line down and not worrying about whose going to play 6 minutes a game.

ColonialsHockey10 05-17-2011 08:10 PM

Konopka or Erskine would be nice additions. I'm a huge Erskine fan, love what he brings.

bourgeoisie 05-17-2011 08:24 PM

I wouldn't take any one of those players.

mcsauer2738 05-17-2011 08:27 PM

If we sign konopka I would move Boyle to first line LW with richards and gabby and see what he could do. My ideal team next year looks like this (assuming Kreider doesn't sign)

Boyle-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Feds-Stepan-Hagelin/Grachev
Avery-Konopka-Prust

Staal-Girardi
McD-Sauer
MDZ-Erskine

Hank
Marty

IMO that's a legit stanley cup contender

turcotte8 05-17-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 (Post 33095914)
well maybe Boyle's skating coach can turn him into a 20 goal scorer too :laugh:

If we get him at least he'll stop scoring against us, so that's reason enough to sign him. ;)

Miller Time NYR 05-17-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsauer2738 (Post 33096848)
If we sign konopka I would move Boyle to first line LW with richards and gabby and see what he could do. My ideal team next year looks like this (assuming Kreider doesn't sign)

Boyle-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Feds-Stepan-Hagelin/Grachev
Avery-Konopka-Prust

Staal-Girardi
McD-Sauer
MDZ-Erskine

Hank
Marty

IMO that's a legit stanley cup contender

Your ideal Stanley cup contender has Boyle at first line lw :huh:, he had a good season but the chances he puts up the same numbers are slim and he doesn't not fit well with Richards and gaborik.let's not kid ourselves hes a bottom 6 guy he belongs with prust on the fourth line.

White Plains Batman 05-17-2011 08:35 PM

Only grinders I'd consider are Joel Ward and Thomas Fleischmanwho are not quite 4th liners but otherwise pass; one of Hagelin, Grachev, Borque, Weise or Horak will be more than capable of playing 4th line minutes at the very least.


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